Re: gEDA-user: PCB Netlist?

2010-04-02 Thread DJ Delorie
The netlist looks like: netname refdes-pin refdes-pin refdes-pin refdes-pin netname refdes-pin refdes-pin refdes-pin netname refdes-pin refdes-pin ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Netlist?

2010-04-02 Thread Chris Maness
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:13 AM, DJ Delorie [1...@delorie.com wrote: The netlist looks like: netname refdes-pin refdes-pin refdes-pin refdes-pin netname refdes-pin refdes-pin refdes-pin netname refdes-pin refdes-pin Sorry for what may be interpreted is a dumb question.

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Netlist?

2010-04-02 Thread DJ Delorie
For example: unnamed_net15 R11-1 J4-4 U4-4 unnamed_net14 C8-2 U4-2 unnamed_net13 R10-1 U4-1 unnamed_net12 C3-2 PS1-26 unnamed_net11 C3-1 PS1-22 DC_GND C2-2 C1-1 U4-3 J4-3 PS1-14 AC_NEUTRAL C8-1 J5-2 PS1-3 unnamed_net10 J4-1 R6-1 unnamed_net9R7-2 TR1-3 AC_HEATER

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Netlist?

2010-04-02 Thread John Doty
On Apr 2, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Chris Maness wrote: is there a utility for converting a regular _cleaned up_ (commands removed) spice netlist? I don't think so. I don't think any PCB users use LTSpice for schematic capture: most apparently use gschem. And some use gschem to capture schematics

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Netlist?

2010-04-02 Thread John Doty
On Apr 2, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Chris Maness wrote: On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:37 AM, John Doty [1]...@noqsi.com wrote: On Apr 2, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Chris Maness wrote: is there a utility for converting a regular _cleaned up_ (commands removed) spice netlist? I don't think so. I

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Netlist?

2010-04-02 Thread Chris Maness
SPICE has no understanding of pin numbers *at all*. Its abstractions are grounded in IC design where you have no pin numbers (at least internally). You'd have to provide a file mapping positional netlist connections to pin numbers. Another advantage of using a *flexible* schematic

gEDA-user: OT: I2C pullup resistor location

2010-04-02 Thread Jim
I'm building a backplane board that will have a processor board (master) and 8 slaves using I2C across the backplane. Is there any advantage to placing the pullup resistors on the end of the backplane farthest from the processor board? I recall installing active termination on the old S-100

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Netlist?

2010-04-02 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 10:33 -0700, Chris Maness wrote: [snip] I switched over to all Macs for workstations and lappys. The only PC archetecture that I have up and running now is the server that runs FreeBSD. I might want to install a fresh copy of Ubuntu on my wife's lappy. I

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Netlist?

2010-04-02 Thread Chris Maness
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Peter Clifton [1]pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 10:33 -0700, Chris Maness wrote: [snip] I switched over to all Macs for workstations and lappys. The only PC archetecture that I have up and running now is the server

Re: gEDA-user: gschem AutoNumber/AutoText @ code sprint

2010-04-02 Thread kai-martin knaak
Felipe De la Puente Christen wrote: Hi, Not a big issue, but I think that would be great if the Autonumber text dialog has a separate TextEntry for the EXPRESSION to search for and a different one for the Text Pattern to replace with. +1 Search and replace in protel works like this. And yes,

gEDA-user: Gschem Output to Netlist Format?

2010-04-02 Thread Chris Maness
How do you dump a gschem schematic to a netlist? I do not see an export in the menu list. Thanks, Chris Maness ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Gschem Output to Netlist Format?

2010-04-02 Thread John Doty
On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Chris Maness wrote: How do you dump a gschem schematic to a netlist? I do not see an export in the menu list. Several ways, all using other programs. For pcb (the program) flows there are gsch2pcb and xgsch2pcb. For others, there's gnetlist. Remember, gEDA

Re: gEDA-user: Gschem Output to Netlist Format?

2010-04-02 Thread Chris Maness
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Chris Maness [1]ch...@chrismaness.com wrote: How do you dump a gschem schematic to a netlist? I do not see an export in the menu list. Thanks, Chris Maness Ok, it looks like I need to install gshc2pcb. Chris References

gEDA-user: No Diode in PCB?

2010-04-02 Thread Chris Maness
Is there no diode in the default PCB symbol directories? Thanks, Chris Maness ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: No Diode in PCB?

2010-04-02 Thread John Doty
On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Chris Maness wrote: Is there no diode in the default PCB symbol directories? Symbols are for schematics, footprints are for boards. I don't know what footprint you need: diodes often use footprints similar to other devices (and I don't use pcb). You can find

Re: gEDA-user: I2C ringing

2010-04-02 Thread Ouabache Designworks
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 13:46:19 -0400 From: Jim [1]...@k4gvo.com Subject: gEDA-user: OT: I2C pullup resistor location To: gEDA user mailing list [2]geda-u...@moria.seul.org Message-ID: [3]4bb62d6b.7050...@k4gvo.com Content-Type: text/plain;

Re: gEDA-user: No Diode in PCB?

2010-04-02 Thread evan foss
Search in PCB for ALF. That is what I use for threw hole diodes. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Chris Maness ch...@chrismaness.com wrote:   Is there no diode in the default PCB symbol directories?   Thanks,   Chris Maness ___ geda-user mailing

Re: gEDA-user: No Diode in PCB?

2010-04-02 Thread evan foss
Oh yea I have my own diode symbols I use with it just to avoid issue. Sorry. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 16:31 -0400, evan foss wrote: Search in PCB for ALF. That is what I use for threw hole diodes. But BEWARE... the ALF diodes

gEDA-user: Are multiple pinlabels on a symbol pin OK?

2010-04-02 Thread Dave N6NZ
Normally when I construct a symbol for a microcontroller or such part where the I/O pins can have multiple functions, I like to include the alternate functions in the pin label, like this example from an Atmel part: pinlabel=PE2 (XTAL2/ADC0/PCINT26) But... I've run into a part where the list

Re: gEDA-user: Are multiple pinlabels on a symbol pin OK?

2010-04-02 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 14:31 -0700, Dave N6NZ wrote: Normally when I construct a symbol for a microcontroller or such part where the I/O pins can have multiple functions, I like to include the alternate functions in the pin label, like this example from an Atmel part: pinlabel=PE2

Re: gEDA-user: Gschem Output to Netlist Format?

2010-04-02 Thread DJ Delorie
For pcb (the program) flows there are gsch2pcb and xgsch2pcb. There's a third now - just use File-Import Schematics Of course, that doesn't give you a separate netlist, nor did the OP specify that PCB was the target. ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: OT: I2C pullup resistor location

2010-04-02 Thread DJ Delorie
I2C is driven from both ends of the bus, so if you want to use the pull-ups as terminators, use two resistors, each twice the resistance, one at each end. I've never heard of anyone worrying about ringing on I2C though... ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: OT: I2C pullup resistor location

2010-04-02 Thread John Doty
On Apr 2, 2010, at 5:10 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: I2C is driven from both ends of the bus, so if you want to use the pull-ups as terminators, use two resistors, each twice the resistance, one at each end. I2C pullups are generally a few kohms, far above any practical characteristic impedance,

Re: gEDA-user: Gschem Output to Netlist Format?

2010-04-02 Thread Chris Maness
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:03 PM, DJ Delorie [1...@delorie.com wrote: For pcb (the program) flows there are gsch2pcb and xgsch2pcb. There's a third now - just use File-Import Schematics Of course, that doesn't give you a separate netlist, nor did the OP specify that PCB was