Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-03 Thread Armin Faltl
Hi, I think your icons look nice, but as you stated, the text in them is superfluous and should be in tooltips. I have no problem with non-square buttons, should this help you to conserve space and clarity. The buffer-icon I would believe to be insert. So I suggest to use 2 or 3 parts, ev.

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-03 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 10:27 +0200, Armin Faltl wrote: I'd like to have more route styles, but linking them to the layers doesn't make much sense for me. See this thread, there was a fine proposal from Peter C. and others: http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/Oct-2008/msg00199.html

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-03 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 14:58 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: No, the text is part of the images, like the current icons. What I will probably do is remove the text entirely, shrink the icons to 32x32 (since with the text, they are mostly blank space anyway), and rely on tooltips to display

gEDA-user: OT Verilog syntax question

2010-08-03 Thread Patrick Doyle
Sorry to pester you folks with this, but I'm not sure whom else to ask. I have some verilog test code in which I would like to display an integer value, which is known to be between 0 and 15, as a binary vector, i.e. integer result; $display(%4b, result); of course I get a 64 bit vector

Re: gEDA-user: gcshem to magic

2010-08-03 Thread al davis
On Sunday 01 August 2010, Oliver King-Smith wrote: I have some analog circuits in gschem that I want to layout in the magic vlsi tool. Is there a good way to go from gschem to magic? Not that I know of. It is a rather difficult task to program. Magic is really a very simple chip layout

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-03 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 13:19 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 10:27 +0200, Armin Faltl wrote: I'd like to have more route styles, but linking them to the layers doesn't make much sense for me. See this thread, there was a fine proposal from Peter C. and others:

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-03 Thread Andrew Poelstra
Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de wrote: On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 14:58 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: No, the text is part of the images, like the current icons. What I will probably do is remove the text entirely, shrink the icons to 32x32 (since with the text, they are mostly blank

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-03 Thread Andrew Poelstra
Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de wrote: On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 10:27 +0200, Armin Faltl wrote: I'd like to have more route styles, but linking them to the layers doesn't make much sense for me. See this thread, there was a fine proposal from Peter C. and others:

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-03 Thread John Griessen
On 08/03/2010 09:04 AM, Kevin Vermeer wrote: On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 14:58 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: No, the text is part of the images, like the current icons. What I will probably do is remove the text entirely, shrink the icons to 32x32 (since with the text, they are mostly blank space

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-03 Thread John Griessen
On 08/03/2010 09:18 AM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: What do you think about setting route-styles on a per-layer basis. That could work before we get virtual layer groups. One would have to create layers that go together so when a trace changes to another layer in the group that goes together,

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-03 Thread Andrew Poelstra
John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote: On 08/03/2010 09:18 AM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: What do you think about setting route-styles on a per-layer basis. That could work before we get virtual layer groups. One would have to create layers that go together so when a trace changes to

Re: gEDA-user: OT Verilog syntax question

2010-08-03 Thread Larry Doolittle
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 09:12:00AM -0400, Patrick Doyle wrote: I have some verilog test code in which I would like to display an integer value, which is known to be between 0 and 15, as a binary vector, i.e. integer result; $display(%4b, result); of course I get a 64 bit vector

Re: gEDA-user: OT Verilog syntax question

2010-08-03 Thread Patrick Doyle
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Larry Doolittle ldool...@recycle.lbl.gov wrote: On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 09:12:00AM -0400, Patrick Doyle wrote: I have some verilog test code in which I would like to display an integer value, which is known to be between 0 and 15, as a binary vector, i.e.

Re: gEDA-user: OT Verilog syntax question

2010-08-03 Thread Stephen Williams
I'm a little surprised that Icarus Verilog doesn't already pay attention to the 4 in your %4b. In any case, this should do the trick for you: integer result; ... $display(%b, result[3:0]); ... or failing that, you can try: wire [3:0] tmp = result; ... $display(%b, tmp); Patrick

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-03 Thread John Griessen
On 08/03/2010 10:54 AM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: My problem is that I'm used to thinking of layers as physical layers, and I'm confused about the logistics of using virtual layers. What I think we've been meaning as we talk about virtual layers is either a layer group of two or three that has

Re: gEDA-user: OT Verilog syntax question

2010-08-03 Thread Patrick Doyle
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Stephen Williams st...@icarus.com wrote: I'm a little surprised that Icarus Verilog doesn't already pay attention to the 4 in your %4b. In any case, this should do the trick for you:   integer result;     ... $display(%b, result[3:0]); ... Oh, of course

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-03 Thread Andrew Poelstra
John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote: On 08/03/2010 10:54 AM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: My problem is that I'm used to thinking of layers as physical layers, and I'm confused about the logistics of using virtual layers. What I think we've been meaning as we talk about virtual layers is

gEDA-user: Another free schematic/PCB tool

2010-08-03 Thread Gareth Edwards
Some free-as-in-beer capture and layout software has been released by RS Components: http://www.designspark.com/pcb ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Another free schematic/PCB tool

2010-08-03 Thread DJ Delorie
You have to sign up for their spam to enable the software, though. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: Method to create symbol for enhanced ICs with many pins

2010-08-03 Thread Tamas Szabo
Hi, I would create a schematic symbol for AT91SAM7 device: 64 pins, lots of them with multiplexed functions. 1. I can number pins round, 1 to 64 sequentially: + easily fit to the schematic, 4x16 pin + easy to create the symbol - no functional grouping - harder to understand the final

Re: gEDA-user: Another free schematic/PCB tool

2010-08-03 Thread Kevin Vermeer
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Gareth Edwards gar...@edwardsfamily.org.uk wrote: Some free-as-in-beer capture and layout software has been released by RS Components: http://www.designspark.com/pcb On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:56 PM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: You have to sign up for

Re: gEDA-user: Method to create symbol for enhanced ICs with many pins

2010-08-03 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 21:02 +0200, Tamas Szabo wrote: However, since in my opinion schematic is a logical thing, I prefer the second option. Which is the better solution? Thx, /sza2 I generally do both variants and put it to gedasymbols, i.e. my AT90USB symbol and many other. If

Re: gEDA-user: OT Verilog syntax question

2010-08-03 Thread John Griessen
On 08/03/2010 12:16 PM, Patrick Doyle wrote: wire [9:0] tmp = $rtoi(whatever); Regardless, I'm getting the impression that there is no simple way to cast an integer expression to a bit vector. I wonder why I thought there was... probably was just wishful thinking. verilog originated to

gEDA-user: wishful UI (was: New icon set and UI changes)

2010-08-03 Thread John Griessen
On 08/03/2010 12:48 PM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: Would each layer group have its own mini-environment that remembers its route-style settings? When creating new route styles, would you need to choose only this layer group or all layer groups? It's just imaginary, so why not either way? Reducing

Re: gEDA-user: Method to create symbol for enhanced ICs with many pins

2010-08-03 Thread Tamas Szabo
I generally do both variants and put it to gedasymbols, i.e. my AT90USB symbol and many other. Yes, but it is a double work:-) If you make the symbols with tragesym, then changing pinorder is not much work. I use (my modified) tragesym. Great tool, pin order really not a matter. Assigning

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI (was: New icon set and UI changes)

2010-08-03 Thread Mark Anderson
Speaking of UI changes, I've been interested in developing a PCB OSX native HID layer. Is there documentation in any form as to how to go about this, or do I just need to dive into the code? Mark On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:47 PM, John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote: On 08/03/2010 12:48 PM,

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI (was: New icon set and UI changes)

2010-08-03 Thread Steven Michalske
I'd look at the open-gl hid for some insight pcb for the ipad i dream ;-) Steve On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Mark Anderson wrote: Speaking of UI changes, I've been interested in developing a PCB OSX native HID layer. Is there documentation in any form as to how to go about this, or do

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-03 Thread John Griessen
On 08/03/2010 02:59 PM, Mark Anderson wrote: Speaking of UI changes, I've been interested in developing a PCB OSX native HID layer. Is there documentation in any form as to how to go about this, or do I just need to dive into the code? Try searching through the manual from the latest code,

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI (was: New icon set and UI changes)

2010-08-03 Thread DJ Delorie
Is there documentation in any form as to how to go about this, or do I just need to dive into the code? Look at src/hid.h Start by copying the hidnogui hid to your hid (take out apply_default_hid); it has a forced crash for every hook. Run pcb, see what crashes, start there :-) My

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-03 Thread Andrew Poelstra
John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote: On 08/03/2010 12:48 PM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: Would each layer group have its own mini-environment that remembers its route-style settings? When creating new route styles, would you need to choose only this layer group or all layer groups? It's

gEDA-user: gschem : Move popupmenu to GtkUIManager

2010-08-03 Thread Camille Delbegue
Hello, I write a patch to migrate the pop-up-menu from GtkItemFactory (witch is deprecated since Gtk 2.4) to GtkUIManager. Why don't use GtkUIManager and GtkAction to manage the menubar toolbar and accelerator. This permit to use CheckMenuItem (ex : to active rubber-band and magnetic net) and

gEDA-user: New Poster - Trying to get ngspice up and running with gschem

2010-08-03 Thread Bill Gray
Last week I made the decision after using gschem and pcb to develop a pcb board, that the system was good enough, and that I finally leave behind my windows machine and make my electronics design process 100% opensource... Now, I have spent the last 4 days trying to get spice (or

Re: gEDA-user: New Poster - Trying to get ngspice up and running with gschem

2010-08-03 Thread al davis
On Tuesday 03 August 2010, Bill Gray wrote: To keep things as simple as possible, I am trying to simulate a voltage follower using an LM358 opamp. So far, I have been met only with abject failure, and my ability to continue investing time at this rate is waning... I have to get this project