gEDA-user: PCB, possible to incorporate FreeRotateBuffer() in Buffer menu?

2010-08-04 Thread Svenn Are Bjerkem
Hi, I am in the progress of making a DIP-64 carrier pcb for a QFP64 MCU which also will carry voltage regulator, crystal and some glue logic. My first attempt used a straight QFP64 package aligned 90 degrees. When doing the routing I found that I my task would be a lot easier if I could rotate the

Re: gEDA-user: PCB, possible to incorporate FreeRotateBuffer() in Buffer menu?

2010-08-04 Thread timecop
I remember seeing http://www.delorie.com/electronics/r8c-27-adapter/ a while ago. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Svenn Are Bjerkem svenn.bjer...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I am in the progress of making a DIP-64 carrier pcb for a QFP64 MCU which also will carry voltage regulator, crystal and

Re: gEDA-user: PCB, possible to incorporate FreeRotateBuffer() in Buffer menu?

2010-08-04 Thread timecop
Oh I thought you were asking how to rotate. Didn't read all email. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:31 PM, timecop time...@gmail.com wrote: I remember seeing http://www.delorie.com/electronics/r8c-27-adapter/ a while ago. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Svenn Are Bjerkem svenn.bjer...@googlemail.com

gEDA-user: Hiding the menu bar in gschem

2010-08-04 Thread Stefan Tauner
Hello i searched through docs, ml, config files and googled but could not find out how to disable the menu bar in gschem. i mean the one with the icons of the most used actions like new file, load/save, undo etc. it was nice to have the first 5 minutes, but after getting familiar with gschem it

Re: gEDA-user: Method to create symbol for enhanced ICs with many pins

2010-08-04 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Tamas Szabo sza2k...@freemail.hu writes: I would create a schematic symbol for AT91SAM7 device: 64 pins, lots of them with multiplexed functions. 1. I can number pins round, 1 to 64 sequentially: + easily fit to the schematic, 4x16 pin + easy to create the symbol - no functional

Re: gEDA-user: Hiding the menu bar in gschem

2010-08-04 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 11:09 +0200, Stefan Tauner wrote: Hello i searched through docs, ml, config files and googled but could not find out how to disable the menu bar in gschem. i mean the one with the icons of the most used actions like new file, load/save, undo etc. it was nice to have

Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist partslists backends

2010-08-04 Thread Robert Spanton
*bump* Can someone with push rights to gaf get Richard's gnetlist patch into mainline? Cheers, Rob On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 00:22 +0100, Richard Barlow wrote: Hi I discovered a bug in the partslist[1-3] backend for gnetlist when processing hierarchical designs. It strips the refdes of

Re: gEDA-user: Hiding the menu bar in gschem

2010-08-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 11:09:49 +0200, Stefan Tauner stefan.tau...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Hello i searched through docs, ml, config files and googled but could not find out how to disable the menu bar in gschem. i mean the one with the icons of the most used actions like new file,

Re: gEDA-user: Method to create symbol for enhanced ICs with many pins

2010-08-04 Thread Kevin Vermeer
Tamas Szabo sza2k...@freemail.hu writes: I would create a schematic symbol for AT91SAM7 device: 64 pins, lots of them with multiplexed functions. 1. I can number pins round, 1 to 64 sequentially: [snip] 2. I can separate pins by functions, without keeping the pins' order: [snip]

Re: gEDA-user: PCB, possible to incorporate FreeRotateBuffer() in Buffer menu?

2010-08-04 Thread John Griessen
On 08/04/2010 03:29 AM, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote: A first search for rotate footprint did not help me out as quick as I wanted, so I went to my local pcb git repository and updated the source to have the newest possible version and rebuilt it. Checked the documentation and searched for rotate in

Re: gEDA-user: Hiding the menu bar in gschem

2010-08-04 Thread Bas Gieltjes
Stefan, Use this in your gschemrc to disable the gschem toolbars: ; toolbars string ; ; Controls if the toolbars are visible or not. ; ;(toolbars enabled) (toolbars disabled) Bas -- i searched through docs, ml, config files and googled but could not find out how to disable the menu bar in

gEDA-user: Yet another Icarus question

2010-08-04 Thread Patrick Doyle
Can anybody tell me if the following is an Icarus feature or a Verilog feature. I would expect the two $display statements to show the same results. For some reason, the first one expands the result to 27 bits instead of the 26 bits I would have expected. The only difference (hopefully) between

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another Icarus question

2010-08-04 Thread John Griessen
On 08/04/2010 09:58 AM, Patrick Doyle wrote: Can anybody tell me if the following is an Icarus feature or a Verilog feature. I would expect the two $display statements to show the same results. For some reason, the first one expands the result to 27 bits instead of the 26 bits I would have

Re: gEDA-user: PCB, possible to incorporate FreeRotateBuffer() in Buffer menu?

2010-08-04 Thread Svenn Are Bjerkem
On 4 August 2010 16:08, John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote: Creating  menu pulldowns for action commands isn't hard -- I've done some. How about you next?  If you do, I'll test them in the next two weeks. Have to read up on that. I understand what you are talking about, but I have no idea

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another Icarus question

2010-08-04 Thread Larry Doolittle
On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 10:58:51AM -0400, Patrick Doyle wrote: Can anybody tell me if the following is an Icarus feature or a Verilog feature. Verilog. Probably. reg [5:0] offset; reg [9:0] enablemask; initial begin enablemask = 10'b0_00110; offset = 0;

Re: gEDA-user: Method to create symbol for enhanced ICs with many pins

2010-08-04 Thread kai-martin knaak
Stephan Boettcher wrote: Option 3.) I'd make a symbol for each function the chip supports, and instantiate a subset of those that I need, carefully annotating overlaps in pin usage, so that no pin is used twice accidentally. This is required work for using such a chip anyway. Note, that

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another Icarus question

2010-08-04 Thread Patrick Doyle
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Larry Doolittle ldool...@recycle.lbl.gov wrote: On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 10:58:51AM -0400, Patrick Doyle wrote: Can anybody tell me if the following is an Icarus feature or a Verilog feature. Verilog.  Probably. reg [5:0] offset; reg [9:0] enablemask;    

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another Icarus question

2010-08-04 Thread Stephen Williams
This looks like a bug in Icarus Verilog, I'm afraid. Since all the values in your expression have explicit sizes, the bit width need not have carry space tacked on and the width should be 26bits. In fact, in your example the bus is particularly nasty because it causes the enablemask bits to be

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another Icarus question

2010-08-04 Thread Patrick Doyle
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Stephen Williams st...@icarus.com wrote: This looks like a bug in Icarus Verilog, I'm afraid. Since all the values in your expression have explicit sizes, the bit width need not have carry space tacked on and the width should be 26bits. In fact, in your example

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI (was: New icon set and UI changes)

2010-08-04 Thread Mark Anderson
Thanks guys. I'll dive right in and see what happens. I'll keep the list up to date as I make some progress. (Ah the things I will do to avoid my Thesis. :-P ) Mark On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:24 PM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Is there documentation in any form as to how to go about

Re: gEDA-user: Method to create symbol for enhanced ICs with many pins

2010-08-04 Thread Tamas Szabo
On 08/04/2010 05:54 PM, kai-martin knaak wrote: c) Rearrange the order of symbols in the file with a text editor. Downside: laborious. I know this sounds a silly idea, and I never found similar in any schematic editor, but wouldn't it be possible to move pins dynamically on the edge of the

gEDA-user: Hiding the toolbar in gschem (was: Hiding the menu bar in gschem)

2010-08-04 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:42:42 +0200 Bas Gieltjes b...@gieltjes.dds.nl wrote: Use this in your gschemrc to disable the gschem toolbars: ; toolbars string ; ; Controls if the toolbars are visible or not. ; ;(toolbars enabled) (toolbars disabled) duh. toolbar not menubar... sorry and thank

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another Icarus question

2010-08-04 Thread John Griessen
On 08/04/2010 01:39 PM, Patrick Doyle wrote: (I have already verified that the vvp file thinks it's operating on a 17 bit value instead of a 16 bit value, so I've narrowed it down to not being a VVP problem -- which seems pretty obvious, but I like to eliminate the obvious as quickly as possible

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
John Griessen wrote: I agree with Andrew. We should use smaller icons, no text, with a tooltip containing a description and the shortcut sequence. +1 JG I disagree. Smaller icons than currently become a pain on large screens. Icons should be scalable. There is a reason why desktop

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-04 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 00:31 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: still offer an intuitive UI. Think Autocad Inventor, SolidWorks, Microstation and the like. In my opinion IncScape has a nice GUI, but I have no idea how those Icons scale with screen size... And they have a Lock Icon on the screen

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Armin Faltl wrote: I think your icons look nice, but as you stated, the text in them is superfluous and should be in tooltips. It should be text or icons or both -- configurable by the user. Text should be real text, not part of an image. This allows for a configurable font size and subpixel

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-04 Thread John Griessen
On 08/04/2010 06:50 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Ok, I stop before I enter pipe dream mode. Those are good ideas. Maybe he'll code two of them. JG or three... PS larger icons are fine too. Configured via something like pcbmenu.res files so we can publish many UIs, not just one. Board

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-04 Thread Andrew Poelstra
Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de wrote: If it were me, I'd suggest even more intrusive changes. From the top of my head: * icon bars, that can be docked or even moved outside the main window * icon bars that can be user configured. * simple keyboard input to move and place

Re: gEDA-user: Method to create symbol for enhanced ICs with many pins

2010-08-04 Thread Kevin Vermeer
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Tamas Szabo sza2k...@freemail.hu wrote: I know this sounds a silly idea, and I never found similar in any schematic editor, but wouldn't it be possible to move pins dynamically on the edge of the device in gschem as simply as moving any other attribute like

Re: gEDA-user: Method to create symbol for enhanced ICs with many pins

2010-08-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Kevin Vermeer wrote: kaimartin, are you saying that simply swapping the positions (just the Y components, even) of a pin on a symbol will cause gnetlist to break? No. I Am talking about the position in the *.sch file. Not about the position inside the symbol. It's a completely different

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

2010-08-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Stefan Salewski wrote: In my opinion IncScape has a nice GUI, It sure is a beautiful and very usable GUI. Being such a high profile application, I'd expect the code up to standards. A close look how they do things, may be useful. Besides, inkscape runs fine on windows. So the notorious cross