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On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 17:08 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote:
Plus, I don't have a clear understanding of what mapped and allocated
and realized mean in Gtk terms. Does anyone know of a good overview of
Gtk+?
The book of Andrew Krause is still a good starting point. It describes
the C basic
GTK isn't all that hard if you just read the header files
Amirite?
On 8 Sep 2010 19:35, Stefan Salewski [1]m...@ssalewski.de wrote:
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 17:08 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote:
Plus, I don't have a clear understanding of what mapped and
allocated
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[mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of John Doty
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Subject: Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0
On Sep 7, 2010, at 6:50
On 09/08/2010 01:09 AM, DJ Delorie wrote:
I'm keeping all the emails at least...
The last time we were talking blue sky features I made a list on a wiki,
and did not notice anyone else adding to the wiki. Was it read? Did it help?
John Griessen
On 9/8/2010 11:38 AM, John Griessen wrote:
On 09/08/2010 01:09 AM, DJ Delorie wrote:
I'm keeping all the emails at least...
The last time we were talking blue sky features I made a list on a wiki,
and did not notice anyone else adding to the wiki. Was it read? Did
it help?
Link
On Sep 8, 2010, at 7:47 AM, David C. Kerber wrote:
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DJ Delorie wrote:
How about a menu item that loads the .pcb file in your favorite
editor, and when that is done, reverts to file contents?
That's what I meant.
That's how my favorite email and usenet clients deal with external
editing (knode and balsa).
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On Sep 8, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
DJ Delorie wrote:
How about a menu item that loads the .pcb file in your favorite
editor, and when that is done, reverts to file contents?
That's what I meant.
That's how my favorite email and usenet clients deal with external
Am 08.09.2010 03:31, schrieb DJ Delorie:
Editing *anything* with two editors (any kind of editors) at the same
time IS BAD, unless both are explicitly designed to work together that
way.
Yes, multiple users/instances can work on the same layout simultaneous...
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On Sep 8, 2010, at 7:47
I don't think the copper shape / masking / clearance of the via is
necessarily primitive. Granted, in 99.9% of cases it can be described by
circular copper geometry on each connected layer, but support for
arbitrary pad-stacks for components might as well extend to arbitrary
via geometry.
I'm
On 09/08/2010 11:57 AM, John Doty wrote:
John G wrote:
How about a menu item that loads the .pcb file in your favorite
editor, and when that is done, reverts to file contents?
Why restrict it to an editor?
We could pass it to an artist or even a dog to process with the right
On 09/08/2010 11:06 AM, Ethan Swint wrote:
Link please? I'll edit!
http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:design_flow_and_hierarchy_roadmap
It's about more than pcb, but any fresh updating and editing is welcome by me.
John
PS How are your SR motor control designs coming Ethan? Any of them open
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:41:25 -0500
John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote:
How about a menu item that loads the .pcb file in your favorite
editor, and when that is done, reverts to file contents?
If I recall correctly, that is why I added the File-Revert function. I use it
to explicitly load
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:08:18 -0700
Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote:
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 07:24:38PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
Sounds nice -- could come from DJ upgrading GTK functionality.
I was hoping someone else would do the GTK stuff :-)
I'm working on cleaning up the Gtk
Am 08.09.2010 02:08, schrieb Andrew Poelstra:
I'm working on cleaning up the Gtk code - well, refactoring gui-top-window.c,
anyway. Hopefully I'll be able to get things into a top-down sorta structure
that can be easily mapped to C++.
Do you have an open accessible repository of your code
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 08:48:45PM +0200, Levente Kovacs wrote:
I'd make the left pane of the GTK HID somehow optional. I'd implement it with
a toolbox(es). We should think about the fact, that tear-off menus will
disappear from GTK+ 3.x. :-(
Levente
Why? What will they be replaced
Am 08.09.2010 20:48, schrieb Levente Kovacs:
I'd make the left pane of the GTK HID somehow optional. I'd implement it with
a toolbox(es). We should think about the fact, that tear-off menus will
disappear from GTK+ 3.x. :-(
After a hint from Peter C. I use GDL
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 17:08 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote:
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 07:24:38PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
Sounds nice -- could come from DJ upgrading GTK functionality.
I was hoping someone else would do the GTK stuff :-)
I'm working on cleaning up the Gtk code - well,
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 20:31 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
To get this it would be nice to have stackup information with the
layers, 4 layer board with 1oz copper on the outside and .5oz on the
inside. etc.
I think we decided at some point in the past that the layer *group*
order would be
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 21:10 -0400, gene glick wrote:
DJ Delorie wrote:
Shall we / I push this? I think it looks good overall.
off the top of my head . . .
A) slots in planes (may be already in the process?)
You can already create holes in polygons with the latest PCB git HEAD,
if that's
Hi,
I'm trying to mix and match pcb builds to evade some polygon bugs.
But I modified a file in git pcb and now I want to load it in the
older pcb supplied by Ubuntu.
I get this warning:
ERROR: The file you are attempting to load is in a format
which is too new for this version of pcb. To
On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 14:52 -0500, Mark Rages wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to mix and match pcb builds to evade some polygon bugs.
But I modified a file in git pcb and now I want to load it in the
older pcb supplied by Ubuntu.
I get this warning:
ERROR: The file you are attempting to load is
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote:
No, but if you don't use any polygon holes in the file, just hand-edit
the file version header back to 20070407.
That works.
Thank you.
Regards,
Mark
markra...@gmail
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Yes, but if you read the previous message, DJ assumed that allows
meant requires.
To reiterate my position on that: I don't mind the use a text editor
solution. My concern is editing it *while* PCB is *also* editing it.
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If I recall correctly, that is why I added the File-Revert
function. I use it to explicitly load the pcb from the filesystem.
In theory, a save/edit/revert menu entry can be done with the existing
actions.
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Our default layer stack is pretty poor for 3D though.. since most of
the inner layers are defined after the two outer layers ;)
In the past, we'd talked about new being replaced by load template
Then the user could choose 2/4/6 layer starting points, eurocard or
pci outlines, etc; based on
If it uses new features, no. I'd suggest emacs :-)
Just edit out the Version line and see if the old pcb can load it.
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On 9/8/2010 4:37 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
Yes, but if you read the previous message, DJ assumed that allows
meant requires.
To reiterate my position on that: I don't mind the use a text editor
solution. My concern is editing it *while* PCB is *also* editing it
The reason I don't close down PCB
The reason I don't close down PCB is that it's a pain to close down PCB,
then open it again, position the window where you want it, resize the
PCB window, move the status box where you want it, close the library,
etc., particularly when you make a small tweak and want to visualize it
On Sep 8, 2010, at 2:37 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
Yes, but if you read the previous message, DJ assumed that allows
meant requires.
To reiterate my position on that: I don't mind the use a text editor
solution. My concern is editing it *while* PCB is *also* editing it.
Sure. Don't do that.
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 04:18:38AM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote:
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 00:16 +0200, Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz wrote:
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 09:14:12PM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote:
You were right - it seems the driver is at fault... It wasn't always
like that so I'll try
Peter Clifton wrote:
Is there a way to save the file as an older version?
No, but if you don't use any polygon holes in the file, just hand-edit
the file version header back to 20070407.
I added this to the wiki
Andrew Poelstra wrote:
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 08:48:45PM +0200, Levente Kovacs wrote:
We should think about the fact, that tear-off menus will
disappear from GTK+ 3.x. :-(
Why?
Because it complicates the GtkMenu code. See:
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Ethan Swint wrote:
The reason I don't close down PCB is that it's a pain to close down PCB,
then open it again, position the window where you want it, resize the
PCB window, move the status box where you want it, close the library,
The window
DJ Delorie wrote:
Our default layer stack is pretty poor for 3D though.. since most of
the inner layers are defined after the two outer layers ;)
In the past, we'd talked about new being replaced by load template
Then the user could choose 2/4/6 layer starting points, eurocard or
pci
On 09/08/2010 03:44 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
The reason I don't close down PCB is that it's a pain to close down PCB,
then open it again, position the window where you want it, resize the
PCB window, move the status box where you want it, close the library,
etc., particularly when you make a
Try adding a putenv() to ActionExecCommand() in action.c to set the
name of the PCB's file. Then you can SaveAs(Layout) ExecCommand(vi
$PCBFILE) LoadFrom(Revert)
(assuming $PCBFILE gets expanded correctly)
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On Sep 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, DJ Delorie wrote:
Shall we / I push this? I think it looks good overall.
I desparately need to push out a release to get the LF work
published in order to close it out. Maybe I'll do a 1.99za release
just to accomplish those goals, then we can cram in all the
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 09:12:57PM +0200, Frank Bergmann wrote:
Am 08.09.2010 02:08, schrieb Andrew Poelstra:
I'm working on cleaning up the Gtk code - well, refactoring gui-top-window.c,
anyway. Hopefully I'll be able to get things into a top-down sorta structure
that can be easily mapped to
On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 12:01:43AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
DJ Delorie wrote:
Our default layer stack is pretty poor for 3D though.. since most of
the inner layers are defined after the two outer layers ;)
In the past, we'd talked about new being replaced by load template
Then
John Griessen wrote:
Link please? I'll edit!
http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:design_flow_and_hierarchy_roadmap
It's about more than pcb, but any fresh updating and editing
is welcome by me.
Hmmm. The page could benefit from some more structure. It presents
solutions but does not
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