Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Andrzej
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > Some weeks ago I started working on a very basic schematics editor, > compatible with current gschem file format. I am writing it in Ruby, > using GTK/Cairo. I while ago I started my own schematics editor - pschem: http://code.google.com/p

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-26 Thread al davis
On Saturday 25 December 2010, Vanessa Ezekowitz wrote: > * If the part in question can usually be described by a > single value, for the purposes of the signal flow in the > schematic that is, then give it a default of "value=0". No. Zero is almost always wrong. The only sensible default value

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-26 Thread John Doty
On Dec 26, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Stephan Boettcher wrote: > All the NASA QA, reviews, and stuff were annoying at first, but in the > end there always were smart people asking the right questions at the > right time to the right people. Well, you've had better luck than I have. In three decades of do

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-26 Thread Mark Rages
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Eduardo Costa wrote: > On 26 December 2010 02:55, Mark Rages wrote: >> >> If it will stop the bikeshedding here, I volunteer to translate a >> tutorial from crayon-on-napkin into LaTeX or DocBook or whatever.  I >> believe that the author gets to choose the format

Re: gEDA-user: pcb export eps bottom silk

2010-12-26 Thread Michael Theurl
thanxs a lot. It works now here the working script: pcb -x eps --element-color '#00' \ --pin-color '#cc' \ --layer-color-1 '#ff' \ --layer-color-2 '#ff' \ --layer-color-3 '#ff' \ --layer-stack "solderside,solder,silk" \ --eps-file "BOTTOM-$PROJECT_NAME.eps" \ --as-sh

Re: gEDA-user: pcb export eps bottom silk

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 01:27 +0100, Michael Theurl wrote: > Hello List, > > I try to export the TOP and BOTTOM eps files http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips#how_can_i_print_the_bottom_side_of_the_board pcb -x eps --layer-stack "silk,solderside" .. The wiki calls it solderside, not only

gEDA-user: pcb export eps bottom silk

2010-12-26 Thread Michael Theurl
Hello List, I try to export the TOP and BOTTOM eps files from the pcb and it's very strange the top eps with silk are great but the bottom silk are always the top silk ? Is there a hint to export the bottom silk ? here my script: pcb -x eps --element-color '#00' \ --pin-color '#cc' \

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-26 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Eduardo Costa writes: > In my opinion, while the idea of the wikibook is fine, it's gonna need > of constant surveillance which in turn, means a pain in the ass for > whoever is at charge. I think this is FUD > Ideally, all the needed documentation should come together with the > software, and

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Stefan Salewski writes: > OK, shame on me for missing that option. But I do not think that this > really proves that a gschem rewrite is obsolete. I may believe that writing a second gschem editor is worse use of your time than improving the existing one, but it is not up to me to judge how you

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-26 Thread Eduardo Costa
On 26 December 2010 02:55, Mark Rages wrote: > On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 4:16 PM, John Coppens wrote: >> On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 16:20:03 +0100 >> kai-martin knaak wrote: >> >>> It about finding authors. >> >> I'm not entirely sure about that. I think there would be persons that >> would be prepared t

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-26 Thread Stephan Boettcher
John Doty writes: > One "crazy" configuration was to reduce the number of bits/photon to > one, and thereby achieve two orders of magnitude better time > resolution than most people thought necessary while staying within > data transmission restrictions. I'm told that this has been the most > com

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-26 Thread John Doty
On Dec 26, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Bob Paddock wrote: >>> Flexibility and specific applicability are not mutually exclusive, and for >>> the very reasons you are citing here. >> >> True, but what makes this possible? It's *avoiding* specificity in the >> foundations. > > I find that statement odd.

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 14:33 -0500, John Doty wrote: > On Dec 26, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > > > I have to modify the netlister and gschem -- gschem tries to be smart > > and makes one single net when multiple net segments are in a straight > > line. > > Doesn't putting: > > (net-

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-26 Thread Bob Paddock
>> Flexibility and specific applicability are not mutually exclusive, and for >> the very reasons you are citing here. > > True, but what makes this possible? It's *avoiding* specificity in the > foundations. I find that statement odd. If the foundation is not well specified then it is not a fo

Re: gEDA-user: Edge connectors and stencil

2010-12-26 Thread DJ Delorie
Add a "nopaste" flag to those pads. You might have to use a text editor to do that. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: Edge connectors and stencil

2010-12-26 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
I have created a footprint for an edge connector. I created the fingers the way I would create pads. However looking at the paste gerber created, this means that solder paste is put on the fingers, which I don't want. How can I change this? Philipp ___

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread John Doty
On Dec 26, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > I have to modify the netlister and gschem -- gschem tries to be smart > and makes one single net when multiple net segments are in a straight > line. Doesn't putting: (net-consolidate "disabled") in gschemrc fix that for your purpose in gsc

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Bob Paddock
>> I did not recall what I'd installed, and it looks like no specific >> profile is set, which might be the problem in itself: >> > > Interesting. > > For me no-multilib is marked with the star Yes, the selected profile is indicated with star. > and I do not really like to change it. Me either,

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-26 Thread John Doty
On Dec 26, 2010, at 4:14 AM, Vanessa Ezekowitz wrote: > On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:44:54 -0500 > John Doty wrote: > >>> "Often", perhaps, but not usually. No matter how you slice it, the most >>> common way to use such a symbol and its corresponding physical >>> representation is as a component on

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 14:01 -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: > > > > Is your box also AMD64 no multilib profile? > > I did not recall what I'd installed, and it looks like no specific > profile is set, which might be the problem in itself: > Interesting. For me no-multilib is marked with the star, an

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 18:57 +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote: > Stefan Salewski writes: > > > > I think one reason for start writing it was my desire to assign > > attributes/classes to subnets, to transfer this information to PCB to > > support manually- and auto-routing with already specified pa

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Bob Paddock
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 12:09 -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: > >> >> /usr/share/doc/ruby-gtk2-0.19.4/sample/misc/cairo-pong.rb: >> 16: GTK+ 2.8.0 or later and cairo support are required. (RuntimeError) >> > > Yes, that is the same what I got befo

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 12:38 -0500, John Doty wrote: > Stephan, this project is interesting. I'll try it on Ubuntu when I get > back to Noqsi. I think I'll pass on trying it on a Mac for now (all I > have here in Cambridge). > > I am puzzled, however, by your motivation: I wrote something about i

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Stefan Salewski writes: > I think one reason for start writing it was my desire to assign > attributes/classes to subnets, to transfer this information to PCB to > support manually- and auto-routing with already specified parameters for > traces. Why do you need a gschem replacement for that?

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 12:09 -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: > > /usr/share/doc/ruby-gtk2-0.19.4/sample/misc/cairo-pong.rb: > 16: GTK+ 2.8.0 or later and cairo support are required. (RuntimeError) > Yes, that is the same what I got before fixing it by manually installing rb_cairo.h. The Gentoo people

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread John Doty
Stephan, this project is interesting. I'll try it on Ubuntu when I get back to Noqsi. I think I'll pass on trying it on a Mac for now (all I have here in Cambridge). I am puzzled, however, by your motivation: On Dec 26, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > I think one reason for start w

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Bob Paddock
> Or try > > /usr/share/doc/ruby-gtk2-0.19.4/sample/misc/cairo-pong.rb > > Should fail too, with the same message as my script. > All related to the missing rb_cairo.h -- some Gentoo people seem to > think that it is obsolete, but it seems to be needed on some boxes. /usr/share/doc/ruby-gtk2-0.19.

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 17:47 +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote: > Please try to execute > > /usr/share/doc/ruby-pango-0.19.4/sample/pango_cairo.rb > > > If that fails, please add some comment to above bug reports. > Or try /usr/share/doc/ruby-gtk2-0.19.4/sample/misc/cairo-pong.rb Should fail too,

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Bob Paddock
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 11:30 -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: >> > I would be interested how many people can run the demo script (peted.rb) >> > from the top of the  above page. Are the needed rcairo bindings shipped >> > with distributions like U

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 11:30 -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: > > I would be interested how many people can run the demo script (peted.rb) > > from the top of the above page. Are the needed rcairo bindings shipped > > with distributions like Ubuntu? If not, then it may be easier for people > > to install

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Bob Paddock
> I would be interested how many people can run the demo script (peted.rb) > from the top of the  above page. Are the needed rcairo bindings shipped > with distributions like Ubuntu? If not, then it may be easier for people > to install the whole gEDA package than to get such a short ruby script >

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Stefan, > -Original Message- > From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org > [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Stefan Salewski > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 2:49 PM > To: gEDA user mailing list > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor > > On T

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 09:28 -0500, George M. Gallant, Jr. wrote: > Ran without any user intervention on Fedora 13. Installed Ruby > some time ago without knowing if I would ever use it. > Fine! > Depending on the window sizing, either the top/bottom horizontal > line heights or the left/right ver

Re: gEDA-user: Christmas wishlist

2010-12-26 Thread Karl Hammar
Peter Clifton: > On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 16:06 +0100, Karl Hammar wrote: ... > > Like, here is a led and resistor, we want to feed it with 12V, 5V etc., > > or is that more a job for gschem? > That is beyond what we probably want to teach gschem. Ok. > Explicit parameter passing between hierarchy m

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread George M. Gallant, Jr.
Ran without any user intervention on Fedora 13. Installed Ruby some time ago without knowing if I would ever use it. Depending on the window sizing, either the top/bottom horizontal line heights or the left/right vertical line widths do not display fully. George On 12/26/2010 08:48 AM, Stefan S

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 19:31 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: > Some weeks ago I started working on a very basic schematics editor, > compatible with current gschem file format. I am writing it in Ruby, > using GTK/Cairo. > No, the project is not death... I just managed to draw to a GTK drawing area,

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-26 Thread Vanessa Ezekowitz
On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:44:54 -0500 John Doty wrote: > > "Often", perhaps, but not usually. No matter how you slice it, the most > > common way to use such a symbol and its corresponding physical > > representation is as a component on a circuit board or in an IC. > > Maybe for you. But gEDA isn

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values???

2010-12-26 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi all, > -Original Message- > From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org > [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of > ge...@igor2.repo.hu > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 7:06 AM > To: gEDA user mailing list > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values??? > > On Sat, Dec 25, 2