Re: gEDA-user: gschem crash on object drag

2011-08-23 Thread Abhijit Kshirsagar
Oh one update: ** (gschem:2337): CRITICAL **: o_shortest_distance: object 0x8fbf3f8 has bad type This error showed up just now... I'm suspecting this has something to do with the net rubber-banding but I'm not sure how to confirm... Thanks! ~Abhijit On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at

Re: gEDA-user: This patch is breaking compile

2011-08-23 Thread kqt4at5v
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Markus Hitter wrote: Am 15.08.2011 um 22:37 schrieb kqt4a...@comcast.net: I was especially interested in the drillmill function but I have not been able to get that to work I check the box and only get plain drilling Did you look into the outline G-code file? As

gEDA-user: How to do PCB Autorouting with non-plated holes

2011-08-23 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Hey, all. I've used PCB on an off for 10 years and recently have been getting familiar again with the rest of gEDA which has become a great set of tools! Anyway, I've been using a board mill to make 1 and 2-layer prototypes of typically through-hole components. The trouble is when the

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:36:33 +1000 Stephen Ecob silicon.on.inspirat...@gmail.com wrote: A few hours in the future, Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 09:52:19AM +1000, Stephen Ecob wrote: A few hours in the future, Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: * Hide all

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:58:27 -0400 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: if you use pcb with the Lesstif GUI, why? The lesstif GUI was designed to use very little screen space, leaving the maximum amount of space for the board. I just tried out the lesstif pcb GUI. I was surprised to see

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 02:41:53 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 02:22:25AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Andrew Poelstra wrote: I have implemented the italicized/separated suggestion. You can see it here:

Re: gEDA-user: How to do PCB Autorouting with non-plated holes

2011-08-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:15:54 -0400 (EDT) Cory Papenfuss papenf...@juneau.me.vt.edu wrote: Hey, all. I've used PCB on an off for 10 years and recently have been getting familiar again with the rest of gEDA which has become a great set of tools! Anyway, I've been using a board

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-23 Thread John Doty
On Aug 19, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Joshua wrote: -- It's useful for touch up of a few attributes, but not for the broad changes you want. The spreadsheet approach really doesn't scale well anyway. If you have 300 bypass capacitors in a project, it's much more efficient to have a heavy

Re: gEDA-user: gschem crash on object drag

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Brett
Abhijit Kshirsagar abhijit...@gmail.com writes: I'm using gschem 1.6.1.20100214 on an Ubuntu 10.10 machine. I'm making a simple schematic - just a couple of devices and just one page. I find that it crashes with a Segmentation fault reported on my terminal. Please upgrade to gEDA 1.6.2, which

Re: gEDA-user: Is it required to use hierarchy for multi-page schematics ?

2011-08-23 Thread DJ Delorie
Is it required to use hierarchy for multi-page schematics or can I just continue adding pages in the design ? You can just keep adding pages, as long as your nets are named. Nets with the same names get merged when you netlist, as do components with the same refdes.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread Levente Kovacs
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:55:21 -0700 Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com wrote: It would be great if the gtk GUI could provide some options to increase available screen space Once I started to work on a patch to have the look and feel of the lesstif GUI in the GTK GUI. However, I think we should

Re: gEDA-user: gschem crash on object drag

2011-08-23 Thread Abhijit Kshirsagar
Thanks. I will try with the newer version. As of now I think the problem lies in one of the custom components I'm using - but that should still not cause a segfault right?` Also,� I'd have liked some inputs on how to debug the problem. Is there some way of enabling debug logging or

Re: gEDA-user: How to do PCB Autorouting with non-plated holes

2011-08-23 Thread Cory Papenfuss
I thought about that... making different footprints that don't have copper on the component side of the pins. Since that would require making new footprints for pretty much everything, I was hoping for a different solution... :) It seems like it would be a relatively common thing for

Re: gEDA-user: Is it required to use hierarchy for multi-page schematics ?

2011-08-23 Thread Vladimir Zhbanov
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:55:23AM -0400, Dan Roganti wrote: Hello, I'm trying to find more info about using mulit-page schematics for gEDA Is it required to use hierarchy for multi-page schematics or can I just continue adding pages in the design ? thanks =Dan No, it

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread DJ Delorie
That would play nice on a dual headed setup. One of my dream projects is to do a GUI for pcb that uses two or more monitors, with one monitor heavy on the toolbars and showing an overview thumber window, and the other monitor being 100% layout. There were fights against GTK people not to take

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread Levente Kovacs
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:29:50 -0400 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: That would play nice on a dual headed setup. One of my dream projects is to do a GUI for pcb that uses two or more monitors, with one monitor heavy on the toolbars and showing an overview thumber window, and the other

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread DJ Delorie
I put a master roadmap here: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/pcb:roadmap I think we've hit some of them, so it needs updating. The way it works is: things get added to the wish list, then moved up to the release milestones by the admins as we plan for the future. with priorities... or the

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:29:50 -0400 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: That would play nice on a dual headed setup. One of my dream projects is to do a GUI for pcb that uses two or more monitors, with one monitor heavy on the toolbars and showing an overview thumber window, and the other

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread Mark Anderson
I'm still planning on an OSX Cocoa HID. I haven't gotten very far, but I do have the very, very beginning. If any one else is interested, let me know. I'd like to do the same for gschem, but that isn't as modular just yet. Mark On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM, DJ Delorie

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread Levente Kovacs
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:31:49 -0400 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: I think dockable toolbars is the way to go. +1. And the ability to store toolbar states in configuration file, or *.pcb file. Levente -- Levente Kovacs http://levente.logonex.eu

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread DJ Delorie
And the ability to store toolbar states in configuration file, or *.pcb file. One of the reasons to do my own lesstif tear-offs :-) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 18:29 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: I subscribed to the mailing list, too. And so did Larry Doolittle, who already wrote to the list. :-) The response by Javier Serrano was interesting: ( http://lists.ohwr.org/sympa/arc/foss-pcb/2011-08/msg3.html ) The

Re: gEDA-user: viewing side vs. layers

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 22:54 +0200, Levente Kovacs wrote: On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:51:03 -0400 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Which GUI ? GTK DJ, It broke when you committed a fix for a different issue, I can't recall exactly which though. I did have a note of the commit which caused

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 10:36 +1000, Stephen Ecob wrote: A few hours in the future, Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 09:52:19AM +1000, Stephen Ecob wrote: A few hours in the future, Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: * Hide all layers button * Show all layers

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 23:45 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 04:41:05PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Andrew Poelstra wrote: Relatedly, why do we let the user select the 'rats' layer? Can you actually draw with it? You can draw new connections between components and

Re: gEDA-user: How to do PCB Autorouting with non-plated holes

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 13:52 -0400, Cory Papenfuss wrote: I thought about that... making different footprints that don't have copper on the component side of the pins. Since that would require making new footprints for pretty much everything, I was hoping for a different solution...

Re: gEDA-user: gschem crash on object drag

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 23:22 +0530, Abhijit Kshirsagar wrote: Thanks. I will try with the newer version. As of now I think the problem lies in one of the custom components I'm using - but that should still not cause a segfault right?` No - it should not. If you can still reproduce it in

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 16:06 -0400, Mark Anderson wrote: I'm still planning on an OSX Cocoa HID. I haven't gotten very far, but I do have the very, very beginning. If any one else is interested, let me know. I'd like to do the same for gschem, but that isn't as modular just yet.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread Steven Michalske
On Aug 23, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 16:06 -0400, Mark Anderson wrote: I'm still planning on an OSX Cocoa HID. I haven't gotten very far, but I do have the very, very beginning. If any one else is interested, let me know. I'd like to do the same for

Re: gEDA-user: viewing side vs. layers

2011-08-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Levente Kovacs wrote: You see your board from component side, and you switch off the copper view of the other side. Optionally, switch off the far side. Now press tap one time, and the other side will show up (components on the other side, copper on other side). Press TAB once again.

Re: gEDA-user: SDB HOWTO vs Circuit Simulation HOWTO

2011-08-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Vladimir Zhbanov wrote: What do you think of it? Go for it. One howto is enough. ---)kaiamrtin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover

Re: gEDA-user: some pcb patches...

2011-08-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
DJ Delorie wrote: Spent some time this week on pushing/fixing LP patches... LP 699291 - Silk lines were created with the FOUND flag if auto-DRC is on Nice to see this long term annoyance go for good :-) Thank you for fixing! ---)kaiamrtin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak

gEDA-user: gschem vs. PCB diode pin numbering

2011-08-23 Thread Matthew Lewis
I was double checking a pcb layout today and I discovered a rather nasty gotcha. It seems that gschem and PCB don't agree on which end of a diode should be pin 1. Gschem views pin 1 as the anode and PCB considers pin 1 to be the cathode. It doesn't prevent you from laying out a board

Re: gEDA-user: Is it required to use hierarchy for multi-page schematics ?

2011-08-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Dan Roganti wrote: I'm trying to find more info about using mulit-page schematics for gEDA Is it required to use hierarchy for multi-page schematics or can I just continue adding pages in the design ? If you just add pages, you have to list all of them in the gsch2pcb project file. That way

Re: gEDA-user: How to do PCB Autorouting with non-plated holes

2011-08-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Cory Papenfuss wrote: I thought about that... making different footprints that don't have copper on the component side of the pins. Since that would require making new footprints for pretty much everything, Well, you could do the heavy lifting with an awk script: If the current line is

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Colin D Bennett wrote: mask has nowhere near the same information content. IMHO, it is not worth the space savings. Maybe s.mask would be better? Perhaps it would be best to make the displayed name of the solder mask layer a user preference. +1 Just treat it as any other layer name.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
DJ Delorie wrote: I put a master roadmap here: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/pcb:roadmap IMHO, a roadmap contains a sequence of milestones, each of which encompasses clearly defined sub goals. I can only see one sketch of a milestone, called Next Feature Release. What comes next and

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Jared Casper wrote: I believe the KiCAD folks are also looking at this. -John Indeed. The posts to the list that I woke up to this morning took a frighteningly KiCad-centric turn. Well, this is, because apparently one of the kicad developers showed up. Is any of the geda devs going

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Peter Clifton wrote: Even conversion of old legacy Altium designs could be done given access ^ Is this a serious restriction? Would it be possible for a user of a current altium license to export to this old legacy format? to known sample files and

Re: gEDA-user: gschem vs. PCB diode pin numbering

2011-08-23 Thread DJ Delorie
It seems that gschem and PCB don't agree on which end of a diode should be pin 1. Welcome back to the transistor problem :-P I've also noticed that gschem searches the older m4 library first ahead of the new pcblib. Is there a way to get PCB to use the newlib first? Probably. I've been

Re: gEDA-user: Is it required to use hierarchy for multi-page schematics ?

2011-08-23 Thread DJ Delorie
I wouldn't know how to tell PCB that it should look at several schematics for the import action. Maybe, DJ can add a comment. Layout-level Attributes: import::src0 = file1.sch import::src1 = file2.sch etc It's documented in the Import() action in pcb.pdf.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread DJ Delorie
I can only see one sketch of a milestone, called Next Feature Release. You're not also checking the bug tracker, though. It *also* has tags for next/future bug/feature releases. So there are four milestones coming up, with the next empty one being next incompatible release. The next release

Re: gEDA-user: slotting question

2011-08-23 Thread Dave McGuire
On 08/22/2011 07:45 AM, Kovacs Levente wrote: I open up a new schematic, place two instances of 7404-1, edit the attributes of the second one, promote the slot attribute, edit the newly-accessible one, change it to 2, save it, save the sheet, exit gschem, restart, and load the sheet. I am

gEDA-user: New layer selector to play with (git preview)

2011-08-23 Thread Andrew Poelstra
Hey all, The new gtk layer selector is finished for most uses now. If you want to play with it before it's ready to be published (which is a few days away still), you can get it here: git://wpsoftware.net/pcb-andrew.git branch: layersel TODO: - can't change colors - I'd like to add a