Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL Testers (please test)

On local customisiations withthe robo board, with the polygon holes removed. 17" Macbook Pro Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro6,1 Processor Name: Intel Core i7 Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz with GPU NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M: Chipset Model:NVIDIA

Re: gEDA-user: Ben mode feature request

everything I think the point John wants to make is that if you only program for a GUI, then you loose the scriptability. I have see this many times in software. Where is you write the GUI first, the scripting is an afterthought. Where as if you write something scriptable in the first pla

Re: gEDA-user: Ben mode feature request

On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:46 AM, John Griessen wrote: > > > On 11/01/2010 01:35 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: > > I like combining GUI and command line, select the files in the gui and > > drag to the terminal! > > Sounds like a trick! > > Does that work wit

Re: gEDA-user: Ben mode feature request

On Nov 1, 2010, at 10:49 AM, John Griessen wrote: > On 11/01/2010 11:05 AM, John Doty wrote: >> Point and click is a seductive time waster*except* for inherently graphical >> parts of the job. > > A lot of layout is. > > Rearranging some sets of files' locations is faster by GUI than by comma

Re: gEDA-user: Ben mode feature request

On Nov 1, 2010, at 9:05 AM, John Doty wrote: > Putting a GUI on non-graphical functions *almost always* torques the design > away from effective scripting. You can claim this isn't necessarily so, but > actual software designers aren't usually smart enough to avoid this trap. Agreed 100% This

Re: gEDA-user: Enhancements for gEDA/pcb G-code export

On Oct 27, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Markus Hitter wrote: > > Am 27.10.2010 um 22:57 schrieb Alberto Maccioni: > >> Actually the code is already working; > > I'm glad the current code works for you, it doesn't for me. This is a problem with all software…. It is good you are making patches. But

Re: gEDA-user: howto detect the net of a track?

Use the f key while the netlist window is open Another option is to use a newer pcbwith the tooltip patch, it will put a tooltip up when hovering over a pin or pad. Steve On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Is there a way to display the net of a track in pcb? > How abou

Re: gEDA-user: pcb crooked traces

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Rick Collins wrote: > At 11:26 AM 10/12/2010, you wrote: > > So who is going to bell the cat? I'd sugesst leather gloves.. > > Another thought.  Using 1 nm as the base unit does everything anyone wants, > but limits the max size board on 32 bit machines.  But

Re: gEDA-user: pcb crooked traces

Internally the origin of the grid should go to the middle of the board, but have the board translate the coords to physical of the upper left, or even lower left. Make some folks happy about their y decreasing or somthing or another. This removes the loss from the other three quadrents of area an

Re: gEDA-user: pcb crooked traces

> The user has a connector with metric spaced pins.  When the metric value is > input, the value is rounded off to the nearest 0.01 mil giving an error of > 0.005 mil.  At this point there is no way to recover that error, it is > recorded in the system that way and the precision is lost.  This valu

Re: gEDA-user: pcb crooked traces

> P.s. who the fuck is john lennon? http://tinyurl.com/chvu8a ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Database on symbols, footprints and other (was "Re: gattrib")

Yikes folks, sorry for brining this old thread back to life, somehow it got pulled to the top of my gmail in a thread and i starded re reading it. and commenting.. Sorry for bringing it all back up. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul

Re: gEDA-user: Database on symbols, footprints and other (was "Re: gattrib")

OMG! what is the core temperature of earth?? did it drop a few degrees? :-) On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > On Mon, 03 May 2010 08:45:29 -0600, John Doty wrote: > >> Yep. And then if you do that, and update regularly, trivial search >> commands like: >> >> locate

Re: gEDA-user: Database on symbols, footprints and other (was "Re: gattrib")

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Britton Kerin wrote: >   What about SQLite?  I've *glanced* at its home page a couple times in >   the past (really no more than that), >   and in really less than 10 minute just now I was able to download it, >   build it, create a database in a file, >   query it

Re: gEDA-user: pcb crooked traces

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Armin Faltl wrote: > Gabriel Paubert wrote: >> >> Really, the inch is by definition 2540µm, not the other way around since >> over 50 years ago. >> > > As far as I know, 1" = 25400um, but I see your point ;-) > > The only practical consideration I see is, that the i

Re: gEDA-user: pcb crooked traces

Another thought, I usuially place my parts on a 100 mil grid, maybe on a 50 mil grid. Steve ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: pcb crooked traces

>> I cannot get rid of the jagged diagonal lines on my design.  There's lots of >> them.  The picture shows a couple of examples.  I've tried different grid >> sizes, line widths, but nothing fixes the problem. Redrawing them in order >> to eliminate any sections does not help.  On PCB, it shows

Re: gEDA-user: pcb crooked traces

Are you allowing all direction lines? While if you are only drawing a straight line between 2 points there should not be a jagged line. Can you strip it down to one example trace? And send the file. Steve On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:09 PM, gene glick wrote: > I hope the attachment comes through

Re: gEDA-user: GPLv3 question

On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:00 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> After all, if you write an open source pcb design package, you don't >> have to ship a color monitor with it to be in compliance with the >> GPL, > > *whew* > > I wanted one of those setups you were talking about! > >

Re: gEDA-user: GPLv3 question

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:17 PM, John Griessen wrote: > I'm looking at using libopenstm32 for ARM chips, and wonder what GPLv3 does > about your ability to sell a system with code in it.  Can you sell it > without > a complete tool chain?  In other words is my compiler cross compile output > a cove

Re: gEDA-user: new footprint guidelines

FYI gerbv will put the xy file generated by pcb onto your gerbers. Steve On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Steven Michalske wrote: > As you guys continue to debate this...  Look at how pcb makes the xyrs data > files. You'll findout that it generates it from the pcb file not the libr

Re: gEDA-user: new footprint guidelines

As you guys continue to debate this... Look at how pcb makes the xyrs data files. You'll findout that it generates it from the pcb file not the library. It takes the center of the part from the pins and pads. Then it puts pin 1 somewhere consistent. See the source for details. On Oct 2,

Re: gEDA-user: new footprint guidelines

On Sep 30, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Rick Collins wrote: > they manually run through an sample of each component type to make sure it is > placed on the board right. That is all they care about and you only do this > once for a given board. They call this "setup" and charge a couple of > hundre

Re: gEDA-user: new footprint guidelines

On Sep 30, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Rick Collins wrote: > Trouble is that the machine doesn't know how the parts are oriented in the > feeders. Rather than trust that the "system" works if they get each piece > right, they manually run through an sample of each component type to make > sure it

Re: gEDA-user: new footprint guidelines

On Sep 30, 2010, at 7:00 AM, Armin Faltl wrote: > Yes and No. The number of practical orientations a board and part can have > are very limited, > but to check them, until now a human will be involved. True automation > readines requires > that you can feed the file into the machine, the m

Re: gEDA-user: gschem sym files

On Sep 28, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Edward Hennessy wrote: >> Side note: >> A capabilities attribute that might get a string like >> 'Current_RMS_supply=1A; current_peak_supply=1...@0.5s' > > It would be nice to have an attribute to check if a power pin is connected to > the proper supply voltage.

Re: gEDA-user: gschem sym files

On Sep 28, 2010, at 6:32 AM, Karl Hammar wrote: > Since nc is just a piece of copper attached to the (plastic/ceramic) > package, why should drc complain? > > A "nc" pin would be like "pas", but gives no error if unconnected. This is not a true statement, some packages there are Do not connect

Re: gEDA-user: gschem sym files

On Sep 28, 2010, at 6:00 AM, Andrew Miner wrote: > would also like to see a pwr_src pin type which would be the output of the > voltage regulator (or source). That way the DRC would warn you if you > shorted two power sources together or if you forgot to hook one of your > power input pins to t

Re: gEDA-user: Functional blocks and PCB format changes

On Sep 17, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Michael Sokolov wrote: > Stephan Boettcher wrote: > >> We had that: M4 footprints. I never liked those, I could not figure out >> how to use them. > > But I love them! > I love them too! I keep mine up to date, so I don't use a - (dash) in foot print names, its

Re: gEDA-user: Functional blocks and PCB format changes

Nice, but I prefer #! /usr/bin/python import yaml from pprint import pprint pcb = yaml.load(''' --- pin: pinNumber: 2 pinName: "rst" x1: 1234 y1: 4321 x2: 2345 y2: 4321 layer: component ... ''') # or from file #pcb = yaml.load(open(sys.argv[1], 'rb')) ppri

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 08:58:54PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: >> >>> What's the physical meaning of an eight-layered composite? >> >> A board with eight copper layers, assuming the eight drawing layers >> each map to a different physical layer

Re: gEDA-user: Functional blocks and PCB format changes

On Sep 13, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Rick Collins wrote: > At 04:34 PM 9/13/2010, you wrote: > >> > But that is exactly what others have been saying, they are concerned >> > about the file size they think they would get from XML... "I want to >> > run PCB on my iPad", etc. >> >> File size just means a

Re: gEDA-user: Functional blocks and PCB format changes

On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:22 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 16:34 -0400, Windell H. Oskay wrote: >>> But that is exactly what others have been saying, they are concerned >>> about the file size they think they would get from XML... "I want to >>> run PCB on my iPad", etc. >> >> F

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

On Sep 12, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Andrew Poelstra <[1]as...@sfu.ca> wrote: On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 01:56:43PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Alright, we'll allow a "top and bottom" layer group. With flex cable, "top" and "bottom" aren't limited to one layer each. Aren't they? All

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

On Sep 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> Shall we / I push this? I think it looks good overall. > > I desparately need to push out a release to get the LF work > "published" in order to close it out. Maybe I'll do a 1.99za release > just to accomplish those goals, then we can cram in

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

On Sep 7, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Link wrote: > * Trace impedance calculator, with automatic adjustment capability (fill in > thickness, stray capacitance and desired impedance, and the width is adjusted > to satisfy the conditions). To get this it would be nice to have stackup information with the

Re: gEDA-user: PCB format wishlist

On Sep 5, 2010, at 6:29 PM, timecop wrote: > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 09:18:01PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: >>> But when each parameter in the file has a name, than file size may become really large, e.g. for files generated with

Re: gEDA-user: PCB format wishlist

On Sep 4, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Ethan Swint wrote: > In parallel to how we want to implement the PCB file format, why don't we > have a separate thread on *what* we want to implement? I'll propose the > following as a starting point: > > 1) Better angle support: include rotation (in degrees, rota

Re: gEDA-user: Functional blocks and PCB format changes

cop wrote: > iPAd is about as closedsores and proprietary as it gets; you sure you > want to support that? > > On 5 Sep 2010 11:57, "Steven Michalske" <[1]smichal...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 4, 2

Re: gEDA-user: Functional blocks and PCB format changes

On Sep 4, 2010, at 6:00 PM, kai-martin knaak wrote: > Andrew Poelstra wrote: > >> The point is that we can't be sure what the future will bring in terms >> of IOPS, storage capacity (even big servers often RAID together dozens >> of small drives to get high speeds against low capacity). >

Re: gEDA-user: Functional blocks and PCB format changes

On Sep 4, 2010, at 8:49 AM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 01:16:01AM -0400, Rick Collins wrote: >> >> Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel! >> >> The spec is large because it addresses a wide range of design >> aspects, which is one of the great reasons for using

Re: gEDA-user: Functional blocks and PCB format changes

On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 04:44:14PM -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: >> >> However, this also brings the ability to edit PCB components individually, >> which means that some parts could have different layers than others, for >> example

Re: gEDA-user: Functional blocks and PCB format changes

On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 11:29:58PM -0400, Rick Collins wrote: >> XML? What's wrong with XML? Heavy? How heavy are a few electrons anyway? >> > > For most data, XML ends up being > 50% tags (and < 50% data). It's hard to > read for hum

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA/gaf and PCB on OS X

Here is how i do it. Use macports to install it the first time. sudo port install geda-gaf Then build the packages from source use git ;-) and fun. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Gareth Edwards wrote: > Thanks for all the inputs, all valuable. I'd like to maintain the > fiction that I m

Re: gEDA-user: GPL-v3 for Open CAD

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:53:55 +0800, Steven Michalske > wrote: >> To make this point clear to get companies like IBM to support GPL V3 >> they had to put in clauses that excepted them from the IP rules. > > [citatio

Re: gEDA-user: GPL-v3 for Open CAD

To make this point clear to get companies like IBM to support GPL V3 they had to put in clauses that excepted them from the IP rules. Also see this clause http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#Compatibility_and_multi-licensing you cant link a GPL v3 library into non GPL v3 work.

Re: gEDA-user: Commercial CAD, land pattern generators report

Its public domain, thats very free, GPL has had is day as a free license, but version 3 has clauses that are very restrictive to others that want to contirbute, i no longer will even consider working on GPL v3 code. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 0

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schaematics

I believe the mark is the place that click when you copy to the paste buffer. Steve On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > > more import experience: > > I found that unlike gsch2pcb import did not remove footprints of deleted > components from the existing layout. Is this del

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

I have heard of Eudora being silly with run on lines before.. On Aug 9, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Rick Collins wrote: > I am getting some emails from this list where the lines are all run together. > It seems to only happen in emails from a few particular users. Is this the > Unix/DOS LF vs. CR/L

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

On Aug 8, 2010, at 8:26 AM, John Griessen wrote: > Andrew Poelstra wrote: > >>> A way to handle schematic driven work styles like Stefan seems to want is >>> to make a PCB plugin to color traces differently, or just temporarily, >>> as an aid to using the correct DRC rules as you draw, or a

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI (was: New icon set and UI changes)

I'd look at the open-gl hid for some insight pcb for the ipad i dream ;-) Steve On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Mark Anderson wrote: > Speaking of UI changes, I've been interested in developing a PCB OSX > native HID layer. > > Is there documentation in any form as to how to go about this, or

Re: gEDA-user: arcs and gerber export in pcb (20091103)

a PNG of the issue would be good. Steve On Jul 30, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Stefan Tauner wrote: > Hi! > > i had some minor problems with arcs before (which are probably fixed in > HEAD, which i have not tried yet). but now im really stuck. > the gerber output - according to gerbview - has all/most(?)

Re: gEDA-user: Gschem/PCB: how to deal with "special" pins & pads?

On Jul 23, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Richard Rasker wrote: > Op woensdag 21-07-2010 om 16:35 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef DJ > Delorie: >>> - Internally connected pins and pads, e.g. SO8 MOSFETs with >>> S on pins 1-3, G on pin 4, and D on pins 5-8. I can of course create a >>> GSchem symbol with 3 pin

Re: gEDA-user: analog/digital partitioning

On Jul 22, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Eric Brombaugh wrote: > On 07/22/2010 09:37 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: >> >> One idea to consider is to start with a solid plane, and cut slots >> around the sensitive analog parts, like big C shaped moats, squares >> open on one side. You retain the "big ground pla

Re: gEDA-user: PCB X.00

On Jul 17, 2010, at 8:53 AM, kai-martin knaak wrote: > DJ Delorie wrote on the other list, were mere mortals like me are not > allowed to post: > >> I don't know. My conundrum at the moment is that pcb is at 1.99z so >> we're out of letters, > > why not go on with either 1.100, or 1.991

Re: gEDA-user: pcb pad, soldermask questions

Place all pins in the schematic symbol this is common industry practice especially for standard packages. Because the folks debugging know the parts as having 8 pins not just 3 internally ones. Hardkrash On Jul 15, 2010, at 2:47 AM, Armin Faltl wrote: > > kai-martin knaak wrote: >>> I can

Re: gEDA-user: moving slotting to pcb?

On Jun 29, 2010, at 10:16 AM, John Doty wrote: > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:56 PM, kai-martin knaak wrote: > >> John Doty wrote: >> >>> You're not thinking of reuse at the same level I am. Consider a Sallen-Key >>> low pass filter. Why should we have to draw that more than once? Somebody >>> cou

Re: gEDA-user: huge font problem under OS X again

Look into homebrew then http://github.com/mxcl/homebrew It isn't mature enough (i need stability) for me but I like it's ideal and implementation. Steve On May 11, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Dave McGuire wrote: On May 11, 2010, at 11:21 AM, John Doty wrote: I've just hit the "huge font" problem

Re: gEDA-user: nRF24L01+ symbol

On May 9, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Dave McGuire wrote: On May 9, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: I use the GPIO modes of the FTDI chips occasionally, and not having the Serial driver take over the part is nice. How tough is that to write a driver for? And for what platform are you

Re: gEDA-user: nRF24L01+ symbol

On May 7, 2010, at 4:19 AM, Hans Nieuwenhuis wrote: On Tue, 4 May 2010 09:59:51 -0400 DJ Delorie wrote: Are you sure? I have got a few FT232RQ's here and their pads extend to the sides as well. There's metal on the sides, but it's not contiguous with the metal on the bottoms. I've che

Re: gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

On Apr 24, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 11:36:59 -0600, John Doty wrote: I might throw a few at gedasymbols.org just for fun. Please do so. Lack of models is a major road block to get started with simulation. Once over the new users stage, more mode

Re: gEDA-user: im new, soy nuevo

On Apr 19, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Rubén Gómez Antolí wrote: Hi all: El 19/04/10 23:31, Armin Faltl escribió: [...] Good evening everyone, I hope nobody has troube with me writing German here now. Please, don't took seriously my last e-mail, it was only a "joke". Really, y

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

On Apr 23, 2010, at 6:47 AM, timecop wrote: just get used to typing gtk_ridiculously_long_function_names_with_lots_of_underscores() and wearing your keyboard out since not a single IDE under Lunix would have code complete or any other code editor improvements us Windows programmers have be

Re: gEDA-user: paid help?

On Apr 6, 2010, at 4:59 AM, Patrick wrote: The last thing I want is to create another flame, Eagle vs geda etc... but am I basically correct that the proprietary Apps have more libraries and this is the main drawback of the open source alternates? Patrick, At work with a multi

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Netlist?

On Apr 2, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Chris Maness wrote: Gschem does not seem to be in mac ports. I saw it listed as a fink package, but I don't like fink at all. sudo port install geda-gaf Build pcb from source, ports has a old version, and the port maintainers haven't updated t

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA/gaf release branch in git? mac build?

On Mar 30, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Dave N6NZ wrote: Hi, I'm about to attempt building gEDA/gaf on a Mac. My plan is to use the git repo. Two questions: 1. Is there a branch or tag or such for the "latest release"? I'd like to track that and not follow the development head for now. 2. Any

Re: gEDA-user: Missing posts?

I NEVER get my own posts, even though I have the setting enabled to receive my own posts. I have turned on post acknowledgments so that I know if I posted. Steve On Mar 29, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Vanessa Ezekowitz wrote: I seem to be missing the occasional post from this mailing list. Just wan

Re: gEDA-user: OT: SEMS screws

On Mar 24, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: given how convenient it is _not_ dropping your lock washers into a piece of machinery when assembling things Grease works great for that! ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org h

Re: gEDA-user: Cygwin still supported?

On Mar 24, 2010, at 11:30 AM, David MacQuigg wrote: The install instructions at http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:cygwin include a lot of obsolete cygwin packages (atk-devel, gtk2-x11- devel, ... 6 others). These packages are no longer available in the current Cygwin distribution. I assume t

Re: gEDA-user: Toporouter: Line constraints

On Mar 20, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Anthony Blake wrote: Ethan Swint wrote: On 03/20/2010 04:06 PM, Anthony Blake wrote: kai-martin knaak wrote: What is the metric of small in this regard? The number of connections to be auto routed? The size of the netlist includes connections ignored by the aut

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

On Mar 16, 2010, at 4:34 PM, John Doty wrote: On Mar 17, 2010, at 6:30 AM, Steven Michalske wrote: On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:00 PM, John Doty wrote: On Mar 17, 2010, at 5:54 AM, Ivan Stankovic wrote: While we're at it, was there a consensus on using verilog-ams as the format of c

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:00 PM, John Doty wrote: On Mar 17, 2010, at 5:54 AM, Ivan Stankovic wrote: While we're at it, was there a consensus on using verilog-ams as the format of choice for Al's translation system? The format has to have a way to represent graphics. How about embedded SVG?

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

On Mar 15, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Dan McMahill wrote: Geoff Swan wrote: I've seen commercial tools that have some predefined grids like rectangular, polar, smith but so far none have taken it to the next level of letting you add custom ones or the custom readout. Just in case you missed it - q

Re: gEDA-user: Launchpad (was: rant: pcb print from command line)

On Mar 15, 2010, at 4:30 AM, Ales Hvezda wrote: 1) Leave gEDA (that includes gaf, pcb, and gerbv) split between two private servers (seul.org and gpleda.org both privately funded). It looks like trac has gotten pretty good with git, could we could set up trac on gpleda.org?

Re: gEDA-user: getting used to git (almost trivial pcb patch)

On Mar 13, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: To familiarize myself with the patch production I did this almost trivial patch of the pcb source. It replaces the old URL at sourceforge.net with the new one at gpleda.org. $ git fetch $ git reset --hard origin/master $ ( do the edits) $ gi

Re: gEDA-user: Open Source mechanical CAD on the horizon

On Mar 10, 2010, at 4:24 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: Solder mask aperture is important as well as pad size, since the stencil opening probably ought never include areas which are solder-masked. It is possible (although I'm not sure how useful) to set a partially masked pad - perhaps as some ki

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

On Mar 5, 2010, at 10:25 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: Ahhh... OK, I get it. Yes, my build brings up the X server. But other than the start-up time, that doesn't bother me. X11 is preinstalled as of 10.6 (or maybe 10.5, I forget whic

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for my first fab shop.

On Mar 8, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Michael Sokolov wrote: Are there any fab shops that would be gentle with a very new, very inexperienced PCB designer? OH and reasonable for a prototype. Last time I laid up a board I used a drafting table and mylar. I may need a bit of handholding as I go along

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

On Mar 4, 2010, at 5:52 PM, John Doty wrote: On Mar 1, 2010, at 4:03 AM, Dave N6NZ wrote: Ahhh... OK, I get it. Yes, my build brings up the X server. But other than the start-up time, that doesn't bother me. X11 is preinstalled as of 10.6 (or maybe 10.5, I forget which) so the hassle

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA/gaf Mac OSX screenshots?

On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:24 -0800, Steven Michalske wrote: If you use stgit, it helps, even if you have no patches in your tree, as you can do: git fetch stg rebase origin/before_pours (or

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA/gaf Mac OSX screenshots?

On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 11:46 -0800, Steven Michalske wrote: Unless this has changed recently I configure with this one line. I pushed a couple of patches in my branch making --enable-gl and --enable-dbus default options. If you

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: Pin[-45000 -45000 5118 2000 6318 3937 "1" "1" "square"] snip Pin[-35000 -45000 5118 2000 6318 3937 "1" "1" "square"] This part could not be netlisted. Chould the pins be named J1-1 through J1-20 and J2-1 through J2-2

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA/gaf Mac OSX screenshots?

On Mar 2, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Charles Lepple wrote: On Feb 27, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: On Feb 27, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: Have you ever looked at the GL branch of PCB (my repository here: git clone git://repo.or.cz/geda-pcb/pcjc2.git git checkout -b before_pours o

Re: gEDA-user: TO-92 Best Practices

On Mar 1, 2010, at 10:50 PM, Donald Tillman wrote: On Mar 1, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Mark Rages wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Donald Tillman wrote: Hey folks, What's considered Best Practices for TO-92 packages? Redesign with SOT-23. Easier to solder, faster than stuffing TO-92.

Re: gEDA-user: TO-92 Best Practices

On Mar 1, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Mark Rages wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Donald Tillman wrote: Hey folks, What's considered Best Practices for TO-92 packages? Redesign with SOT-23. Easier to solder, faster than stuffing TO-92. Agreed! And really easy to hand solder too! Steve

Re: gEDA-user: any last minute advice prior to sending out for PCB fab

On Feb 24, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Bob Paddock wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Steven Michalske > wrote: On Feb 24, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Bob Paddock wrote: To DJ's comment. We usually do go with pre-programmed parts eventually. Solder jumpers are a really bad idea when doing anyth

Re: gEDA-user: any last minute advice prior to sending out for PCB fab

On Feb 24, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Bob Paddock wrote: To DJ's comment. We usually do go with pre-programmed parts eventually. Solder jumpers are a really bad idea when doing anything more than few boards. Even zero ohm resisters jumpers cost real money. I believe it was my comment that referen

Re: gEDA-user: any last minute advice prior to sending out for PCB fab

On Feb 24, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Bob Paddock wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Larry Doolittle wrote: Hi - On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 02:40:50PM -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: I'm making the assumption you will have a contractor build quantities someday, in automated equipment. These will (at l

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic import (was "why separate xgsch2pcb?")

On Feb 21, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Vanessa Ezekowitz wrote: On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:14:42 -0500 (EST) Stuart Brorson wrote: There is a bug in the git version of PCB. If you put your newlib footprints in a directory, the library import stuff can't find them. The library import stuff looks in *subdi

Re: gEDA-user: FIRST robotics...

On Feb 17, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Mike Bushroe wrote: But since most are running Windoze or MAC, most of the time went to just configuring a KNOPPIX live CD loaded with gEDA Installing geda on a MAC is rather painless. Use mac ports to install geda. it includes geda 1.6.0 pcb is outdated

Re: gEDA-user: let's play "guess the netlist" with gsch2pcb!

here is what i got V3 R1-1 V5 R1-2 with gsch2pcb --version gsch2pcb 1.6 On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Mark Rages wrote: ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: let's play "guess the netlist" with gsch2pcb!

On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Mark Rages wrote: This caught me out today. Consider this circuit: http://vivara.net/images/gschem_example.png The symbols are from the standard library, specifically: /usr/local/share/gEDA/sym/analog/resistor-1.sym /usr/local/share/gEDA/sym/power/generic-power.s

Re: gEDA-user: OT: Latex

For multi author work I recommend setting up a source control repository. This is a simple example of one under git. http://gitorious.org/latex-for-beginners This is a more complicated example where the guy is keeping the preambles in their own repository, as a sub module in a master repos

Re: gEDA-user: OT: Search for good SMD and IC prober

On Feb 5, 2010, at 6:30 AM, John Doty wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:06 AM, Torsten Wagner wrote: I know it is off topic but I guess it is somehow related to PCB and many of you face the same problem or found already a solution. I am looking for a good set of micro probes to address single pins

Re: gEDA-user: Confusion about symbol file and footprint file

On Feb 1, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Luke wrote: According to the gsch2pcb documentation, it should read the ~/gafrc file. Where can I put a user specific gafrc file so that it will run every time gschem is started, no matter where I am running gschem from, Shouldn't the file be ~/.gafrc that dot i

Re: gEDA-user: Parts Manager Working Document

On Jan 18, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Torsten Wagner wrote: 2) missing components At work we throw away the libraries that come with our $15K a seat tools. :-P I'm not sure how much a database would run against one fundamental of gEDA, which is the nice nativley use of pure text files. If there

Re: gEDA-user: OT: DC power feed on xDSL circuits

On Jan 15, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 03:44 +, Michael Sokolov wrote: While SDSL lines in North America are generally unpowered (I've never seen one with DC power on it), when someone does put DC power feed on a line of this kind (like they do w

Re: gEDA-user: blue sky ideas - written down finally

On Jan 8, 2010, at 12:29 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Right, [] is "grouping" and how you map groups to each other > determines the functionality. The syntax is based on "what should be > obvious"... > > [a b c] = [x y z] maps all of a group of signals to a group of pins, > 1:1 > > a = [x y z] ma

Re: gEDA-user: blue sky ideas - written down finally

On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:40 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Already though of that... > > THING = [ PINS, PINS, PINS ] > > Extra grouping on the right means a one-to-many connection; the net > connecting to thing connects to all pins in the right. Note that > thing and pins may be groups, in which ca

Re: gEDA-user: blue sky ideas - written down finally

On Dec 26, 2009, at 7:11 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > I took the time to document my ideas about heavy vs light symbols and > the pin mapping problem: > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/component-dbs.html > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/pin-mapping.html > > I got tired of looking it up in the mail archives

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