Re: gEDA-user: Looking for PCB fab recommendations

2009-06-20 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
Michael Sokolov schrieb: > Peter TB Brett wrote: > >>> * SnPb finish - this one is an absolute requirement for ideological / >>> philosophical reasons, RoHS crap is *not* acceptable. >> In the nicest possible way, WTF? > > [...] > > The lead-free crap suffers from the severe problem of tin wh

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for PCB fab recommendations

2009-06-19 Thread Dan McMahill
Ineiev wrote: > On 6/19/09, Larry Doolittle wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 02:52:10AM +, Michael Sokolov wrote: >>> * Both plated and unplated drill. Some parts have plastic mounting >>> elements and I want unplated holes for those. >> Get all your holes plated and drill out your mounting

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for PCB fab recommendations

2009-06-19 Thread Larry Doolittle
Michael - On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 06:52:14AM +, Michael Sokolov wrote: > Ineiev wrote: > > BTW why unplated holes may be preferable for this case? > [pcbfabexpress.com] charge $50 extra for unplated drill and I'm OK with > that. (That's for the whole order, not per board.) That's payment so

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for PCB fab recommendations

2009-06-19 Thread evan foss
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Michael Sokolov wrote: > Peter TB Brett wrote: > >> > * SnPb finish - this one is an absolute requirement for ideological / >> >   philosophical reasons, RoHS crap is *not* acceptable. >> >> In the nicest possible way, WTF? > > RoHS is an evil abomination that is r

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for PCB fab recommendations

2009-06-19 Thread Michael Sokolov
Peter TB Brett wrote: > > * SnPb finish - this one is an absolute requirement for ideological / > > philosophical reasons, RoHS crap is *not* acceptable. > > In the nicest possible way, WTF? RoHS is an evil abomination that is reprehensible to the core of my being. The whole underlying philos

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for PCB fab recommendations

2009-06-18 Thread Michael Sokolov
Ineiev wrote: > BTW why unplated holes may be preferable for this case? Sentimental reasons: I want my SDSL gadget to be just as "professional" as all those "mainstream" existing SDSL CPE products that fill eBay. I have *never* seen a "real" commercial product PCB on which the holes accommodati

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for PCB fab recommendations

2009-06-18 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Friday 19 June 2009 03:52:10 Michael Sokolov wrote: > * SnPb finish - this one is an absolute requirement for ideological / > philosophical reasons, RoHS crap is *not* acceptable. In the nicest possible way, WTF? > * Both plated and unplated drill. Some parts have plastic mounting > eleme

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for PCB fab recommendations

2009-06-18 Thread Ineiev
On 6/19/09, Larry Doolittle wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 02:52:10AM +, Michael Sokolov wrote: >> * Both plated and unplated drill. Some parts have plastic mounting >> elements and I want unplated holes for those. > > Get all your holes plated and drill out your mounting holes > by hand.

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for PCB fab recommendations

2009-06-18 Thread Marcel . Schmedes . EXTERN
Hello, I've good results and very fair pricing with http://www.pcb-pool.com/ and the Fab here in Germany. But they also have Fabs in UK/US, so I would recommend give it a try. Last time I let them fabricate an 4-Layer 6mil Rules PCB with Silk, Mask, plated Holes, unplated Holes and free Stencil.

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for PCB fab recommendations

2009-06-18 Thread Larry Doolittle
Michael - On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 02:52:10AM +, Michael Sokolov wrote: > * Both plated and unplated drill. Some parts have plastic mounting > elements and I want unplated holes for those. Get all your holes plated and drill out your mounting holes by hand. Otherwise you will end up with a

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for PCB fab recommendations

2009-06-18 Thread Dave N6NZ
Price out APCircuits.com and sunstone.com -- I've used them both for 2 layer boards with very good results. I suspect their prices will be competitive. Shipping USA<->Canada is no hassle. -dave Michael Sokolov wrote: > Hello gEDA/PCB users, > > Ineiev is almost done with the layout of my SDS

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for PCB fab recommendations

2009-06-18 Thread Darrell Harmon
I have used the no touch service from [1]http://www.protoexpress.com They are in Sunnyvale, CA, and do good work. I would expect a full service order to cost somewhere in your price range for 5 to 10 boards, and no touch to be about $150 for 1 board to $400 for 5 boards. No touch is