Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-09 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:38:57 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On screen text looks not so good, sometimes it touches the graphics. ^ This why I am in favor for the same size on screen and in output. No need to tweak the text aft

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-09 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 17:38 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 15:41 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > > > > > Screen and print _must_ match, and that means fixing this at 1.3. > > I don't want to add an option to adjust the combined scaling, since this > > just gives too many

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-09 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 15:41 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > Screen and print _must_ match, and that means fixing this at 1.3. > I don't want to add an option to adjust the combined scaling, since this > just gives too many degrees of freedom. > I have always used the default scaling for gEDA

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-09 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 15:31 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 08:25 -0600, John Doty wrote: > > On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > > > New text elements created by gEDA 1.6.0 will be sized directly in > > > points, assuming gschem world coordinate units are 1/

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-09 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 08:25 -0600, John Doty wrote: > On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > New text elements created by gEDA 1.6.0 will be sized directly in > > points, assuming gschem world coordinate units are 1/1000th of an > > inch, > > and 1pt is 1/72 of an inch. > > Do g

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-09 Thread DJ Delorie
> Do gEDA users commonly use schematic scales where a world coordinate > unit is 1/1000 of an inch? I don't: usually I use a B or C frame and > print on letter or A4, which make the coordinate units smaller. I don't even use the "paper" sizes - I have four title blocks, all the same shape as

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-09 Thread John Doty
On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: > New text elements created by gEDA 1.6.0 will be sized directly in > points, assuming gschem world coordinate units are 1/1000th of an > inch, > and 1pt is 1/72 of an inch. Do gEDA users commonly use schematic scales where a world coordinate

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-09 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 12:00 +0100, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:58:01 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > A. Match postscript point size - so a 10pt font prints / views as a 10pt > > font. (When printed on a title-block which matches the size of the paper > > - printed with no mar

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-09 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 13:45 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 12:00 +0100, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:58:01 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > > > A. Match postscript point size - so a 10pt font prints / views as a 10pt > > > font. (When printed on a title-b

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-09 Thread John Doty
On Jun 8, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:32:34 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > >> The only grief comes with the currently magic behaviour at 180 >> degrees, >> which basically resets to 0 degrees rotation, and flips the anchor >> point >> to the opposite corn

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-09 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 12:00 +0100, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:58:01 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > A. Match postscript point size - so a 10pt font prints / views as a 10pt > > font. (When printed on a title-block which matches the size of the paper > > - printed with no mar

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-09 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:58:01 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > A. Match postscript point size - so a 10pt font prints / views as a 10pt > font. (When printed on a title-block which matches the size of the paper > - printed with no margin). > > This takes the definition of 1pt as 1/72 of an inch, and

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-09 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:58 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > Well. I can make them the same; but we have two options: ^--- The numerate amongst you will notice that I then went on to quote 3 options, and gave them letters - rather than numbers, to keep t

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-09 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 02:30 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:32:34 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > The only grief comes with the currently magic behaviour at 180 degrees, > > which basically resets to 0 degrees rotation, and flips the anchor point > > to the opposite corne

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-08 Thread Steven Michalske
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: > Any objections to removing the 0,90,180,270 limits to rotated text? > > http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/screenshots/gschem_rotated_text.png > > Need to teach the print output to handle it of course, but that > shouldn't be too hard. > > T

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-08 Thread joe tarantino
Flipping the anchor at 180 degrees rotation is IMHO unwanted and unexpected magic. I think I remember being annoyed by this in the past. What happens when you do this in a batch mode? Can it be reversed? It would be better if the on-screen font size matched the printed size.

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-08 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:32:34 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > The only grief comes with the currently magic behaviour at 180 degrees, > which basically resets to 0 degrees rotation, and flips the anchor point > to the opposite corner of the text box. To me, this very magic is a grief. It tires to se

gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-08 Thread Peter Clifton
Any objections to removing the 0,90,180,270 limits to rotated text? http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/screenshots/gschem_rotated_text.png Need to teach the print output to handle it of course, but that shouldn't be too hard. The only grief comes with the currently magic behaviour at 180 degr