Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-03-09 Thread Dave McGuire
On Mar 8, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: My statement was that you as a user should not override the setting that the computer configured for you. ...assuming the people who wrote that part of the OS did it right. I'm willing to bet I've been using (and programming) X longer

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-03-08 Thread Steven Michalske
On Mar 5, 2010, at 10:25 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: Ahhh... OK, I get it. Yes, my build brings up the X server. But other than the start-up time, that doesn't bother me. X11 is preinstalled as of 10.6 (or maybe 10.5, I forget which) so

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-03-05 Thread Steven Michalske
On Mar 4, 2010, at 5:52 PM, John Doty wrote: On Mar 1, 2010, at 4:03 AM, Dave N6NZ wrote: Ahhh... OK, I get it. Yes, my build brings up the X server. But other than the start-up time, that doesn't bother me. X11 is preinstalled as of 10.6 (or maybe 10.5, I forget which) so the

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-03-05 Thread Dave McGuire
On Mar 4, 2010, at 8:52 PM, John Doty wrote: Ahhh... OK, I get it. Yes, my build brings up the X server. But other than the start-up time, that doesn't bother me. X11 is preinstalled as of 10.6 (or maybe 10.5, I forget which) so the hassle factor is pretty minimal. 10.6 seems to define

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-03-05 Thread Dave McGuire
On Mar 5, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: Ahhh... OK, I get it. Yes, my build brings up the X server. But other than the start-up time, that doesn't bother me. X11 is preinstalled as of 10.6 (or maybe 10.5, I forget which) so the hassle factor is pretty minimal. 10.6 seems to

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-03-04 Thread John Doty
On Mar 1, 2010, at 4:03 AM, Dave N6NZ wrote: Ahhh... OK, I get it. Yes, my build brings up the X server. But other than the start-up time, that doesn't bother me. X11 is preinstalled as of 10.6 (or maybe 10.5, I forget which) so the hassle factor is pretty minimal. 10.6 seems to define

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-02-28 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 23:42 -0500, Charles Lepple wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Someone with a Mac might like to try building gEDA and PCB with a native version of GTK? Is it currently possible to tell a running copy of gschem to open a

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-02-28 Thread Charles Lepple
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 23:42 -0500, Charles Lepple wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Someone with a Mac might like to try building gEDA and PCB with a native version of GTK? Is

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-02-28 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Feb 27, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: Someone with a Mac might like to try building gEDA and PCB with a native version of GTK? OK, I'll play dumb. I recently built PCB from git after naively using macports to make all the dependancies go away. How is that different from what I

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-02-28 Thread Charles Lepple
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Dave N6NZ n...@arrl.net wrote: On Feb 27, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: Someone with a Mac might like to try building gEDA and PCB with a native version of GTK? OK, I'll play dumb.  I recently built PCB from git after naively using macports to

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-02-28 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Feb 28, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Charles Lepple wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Dave N6NZ n...@arrl.net wrote: On Feb 27, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: Someone with a Mac might like to try building gEDA and PCB with a native version of GTK? OK, I'll play dumb. I recently

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-02-28 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 28, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Dave N6NZ wrote: Someone with a Mac might like to try building gEDA and PCB with a native version of GTK? OK, I'll play dumb. I recently built PCB from git after naively using macports to make all the dependancies go away. How is that different from what I

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-02-28 Thread Mark Anderson
I'll take a screen shot. And send along the errors. I have to rebuild with the newest GTK+OSX. In terms of the XPM problems, it seems to be the XPM icons that don't show up, why that is I have no idea, since gd and other programs have XPM support. —Mark On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Dave

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-02-28 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 17:02 -0500, Mark Anderson wrote: I'll take a screen shot. And send along the errors. I have to rebuild with the newest GTK+OSX. In terms of the XPM problems, it seems to be the XPM icons that don't show up, why that is I have no idea, since gd and other programs have

gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-02-27 Thread Peter Clifton
Someone with a Mac might like to try building gEDA and PCB with a native version of GTK? If so, take a look at this page: http://gtk-osx.sourceforge.net/ -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-02-27 Thread Mark Anderson
It kinda works. You get a lot of blank icons...I think due to some XPM problems. Mark On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Someone with a Mac might like to try building gEDA and PCB with a native version of GTK? If so, take a look at this page:

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-02-27 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 15:49 -0500, Mark Anderson wrote: It kinda works. You get a lot of blank icons...I think due to some XPM problems. Mark Send a screenshot? What XPM problems? Is it because MacOS X native GTK doesn't support them, or what? A quick search revealed this:

Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?

2010-02-27 Thread Charles Lepple
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Someone with a Mac might like to try building gEDA and PCB with a native version of GTK? Is it currently possible to tell a running copy of gschem to open a schematic? If not, that is probably something that needs to be fixed