Re: gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread DJ Delorie
> What is the diameter of the drill helper? It's mindrill/2 so you can configure it through the DRC menu. What you really need is some formula or table that gives drill-specific diameters, since each drill is a different shape. ___ geda-user mailing

Re: gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread Alain M.
DJ Delorie escreveu: > > That's what the drill helper *does*. > > But the copper is only 0.7 mil thick (1/2 oz) so a pin produces a much > deeper starter spot. What is the diameter of the drill helper? if it is too small, it will not help much. For what I know the drill has a flat region in th

Re: gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread andrewm
DJ Delorie wrote: >> The hardest part is the 0.3mm vias in a drill press with no >> alignment aids. >> > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/dremel-stand/ > > although the dremel shaft itself has about 6 mil of play in it. I've > tweaked the drill helper checkbox of the PS exporter to be more > suit

Re: gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread DJ Delorie
> I used another trick (some... time ago): make your copper with a > hole, That's what the drill helper *does*. But the copper is only 0.7 mil thick (1/2 oz) so a pin produces a much deeper starter spot. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seu

Re: gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread Alain M.
DJ Delorie escreveu: >> The hardest part is the 0.3mm vias in a drill press with no >> alignment aids. > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/dremel-stand/ > > although the dremel shaft itself has about 6 mil of play in it. I've > tweaked the drill helper checkbox of the PS exporter to be more > suitab

Re: gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread DJ Delorie
> The hardest part is the 0.3mm vias in a drill press with no > alignment aids. http://www.delorie.com/pcb/dremel-stand/ although the dremel shaft itself has about 6 mil of play in it. I've tweaked the drill helper checkbox of the PS exporter to be more suitable for this particular use; in addi

Re: gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread andrewm
> Lope De Vega wrote: > > > I'm trying to build a circuit with a cp2102, which has > 0.5 mm between pins' center (actually 0.2mm between > pins). It is a qfn-28 package. > > I wanted to ask if anyone has had success with > something similiar? my workflow would be printing the > schematics as give

Re: gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread Ben Jackson
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 11:24:36AM -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: > > Randall Nortman wrote: > > The cheapest I've seen for 1 or 2 copies of a board with mask and > silkscreen is batchpcb.com, by the SparkFun guys. I've used them before. The board quality is top notch. If you need many of a small de

Re: gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Monday 03 December 2007 19:19:29 DJ Delorie wrote: > Is it time for another run of challenge boards? ;-) Maybe a home fab challenge. :) Peter -- Peter Brett Electronic Systems Engineer Integral Informatics Ltd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread Dave N6NZ
Randall Nortman wrote: > On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 10:07:23AM -0800, Lope De Vega wrote: >> I'm trying to build a circuit with a cp2102, which has >> 0.5 mm between pins' center (actually 0.2mm between >> pins). It is a qfn-28 package. > > I have never played with toner transfer schemes, Ditto for

Re: gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread DJ Delorie
> These days I do 4-layer boards mostly, so home etching is just not > an option anyway. Yes, it is: http://www.delorie.com/electronics/usb-gpio/ And yes, I think we've all agreed that I'm at least partly insane. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread Ben Jackson
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 10:07:23AM -0800, Lope De Vega wrote: > I'm trying to build a circuit with a cp2102, which has > 0.5 mm between pins' center (actually 0.2mm between > pins). It is a qfn-28 package. Same spacing as QFP, which I've done successfully. I didn't try to toner-transfer it, thoug

Re: gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread DJ Delorie
> I wanted to ask if anyone has had success with something similiar? I've done 0.4mm pitch TQFP with toner transfer and a soldering iron. It takes some care, but it can be done. 0.5mm pitch is now "easy" for me. Note, however, that I use Pulsar's coated paper, which gives better results than pl

Re: gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread Randall Nortman
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 10:07:23AM -0800, Lope De Vega wrote: > > I'm trying to build a circuit with a cp2102, which has > 0.5 mm between pins' center (actually 0.2mm between > pins). It is a qfn-28 package. I have never played with toner transfer schemes, but I have done boards with 0.5mm pitch

gEDA-user: anyone has had success with 0.2mm?

2007-12-03 Thread Lope De Vega
Hello, I've been for a while using gschem and pcb though just for practice, I've never materialized anything with them, though now I'm willing to. I'm trying to build a circuit with a cp2102, which has 0.5 mm between pins' center (actually 0.2mm between pins). It is a qfn-28 package. I wanted to