Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-06 Thread Jim
Well the problem is with whatever generates the net list. unnamed_net5R1-1 C3-2 U2-J2_2 Vcc U3-3 C2-2 U1-40 unnamed_net4U2-J1_2 U1-36 unnamed_net3U2-J1_1 U1-35 unnamed_net2U2-J2_3 U1-34 unnamed_net1U2-J2_4 U1-33 +3.3V U3-1 C3-1 C2-1 C1-2 U2-J1_9 U2-J1_10 U2-J1_13

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-06 Thread Jim
In case anyone is interested, here's the entire schematic: http://fayettedigital.com/images/sch2.jpg ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-06 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 08:50 -0500, Jim wrote: In case anyone is interested, here's the entire schematic: http://fayettedigital.com/images/sch2.jpg Sorry, can not really help you. (For the experts it may be easier if you make all data files available, not only pictures.) What I do in such

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-06 Thread Jim
Stefan Salewski wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 08:50 -0500, Jim wrote: In case anyone is interested, here's the entire schematic: http://fayettedigital.com/images/sch2.jpg Sorry, can not really help you. (For the experts it may be easier if you make all data files available, not only

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-06 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 20:29 -0500, Jim wrote: So is this supposed to be element U102-J1 's pin 1, or is the element U102 's pin J1-1. The point is that we chose to use - as a name/number separator. It is reasonable to choose a single reserved character for that purpose in a

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-05 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 00:28 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:40:54 +, Peter Clifton wrote: Perhaps the pin identifier U102-J1-1 is causing issues. So this may be another incarnation of the hyphen-nastiness? Would it be possible to fix this tendency to

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-05 Thread Jim
Jim wrote: When I do an optimize rats nest I don't see anything but I do get a bunch of errors in the log like this: Snip Thank you one and all. I took Stefan's generated footprint, massaged the pin numbers and got the following working footprint! Element[ WIZ812MJ mod. WIZ812MJ 0 0

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-05 Thread Harry Eaton
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 00:28 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:40:54 +, Peter Clifton wrote: Perhaps the pin identifier U102-J1-1 is causing issues. So this may be another incarnation of the hyphen-nastiness? Would it be possible

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-05 Thread Jim
Harry Eaton wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 00:28 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:40:54 +, Peter Clifton wrote: Perhaps the pin identifier U102-J1-1 is causing issues. So this may be another incarnation of the hyphen-nastiness? Would

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-04 Thread Jim
Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 16:42 -0500, Jim wrote: Perhaps the pin identifier U102-J1-1 is causing issues. Thanks everyone. I think I understand the issues. I'll just go with pin numbers 1-40 and drop the J1 and J2 mess. It won't match the part, but I can

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-04 Thread Jim
Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 09:41 -0500, Jim wrote: dpkg -l | grep -i geda ii geda 1:1.4.0.1 GPL EDA -- So I presume Debian or Ubuntu? I expect if you grab gEDA 1.6.1 from either

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-04 Thread Jim
Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 08:55 -0500, Jim wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 07:27 -0500, Jim wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: This is the only part of the file (board.pcb) that mentions the footprint and/or the pins. Element(0x0 Wiz812mj.fp

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-04 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 07:47 -0500, Jim wrote: I'm running 8.04 LTS on my main system. I got burnt when they dropped support on a non LTS system. I don't have time to upgrade every few months. I do run openvz and can probably install most any distro. I have jaunty running on a container

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:40:54 +, Peter Clifton wrote: Perhaps the pin identifier U102-J1-1 is causing issues. So this may be another incarnation of the hyphen-nastiness? Would it be possible to fix this tendency to misinterpret hyphens in names once and for all? ---(kaimartin)--- --

gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Jim
When I do an optimize rats nest I don't see anything but I do get a bunch of errors in the log like this: Can't find U102 pin J1-13 called for in netlist. Can't find U102 pin J1-8 called for in netlist. Can't find U102 pin J1-9 called for in netlist. Can't find U102 pin J1-10 called for in

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 05:01 -0500, Jim wrote: When I do an optimize rats nest I don't see anything but I do get a bunch of errors in the log like this: Can't find U102 pin J1-13 called for in netlist. Can't find U102 pin J1-8 called for in netlist. Can't find U102 pin J1-9 called for in

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Jim
Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 05:01 -0500, Jim wrote: When I do an optimize rats nest I don't see anything but I do get a bunch of errors in the log like this: Can't find U102 pin J1-13 called for in netlist. Can't find U102 pin J1-8 called for in netlist. Can't find U102 pin

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 07:27 -0500, Jim wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: This is the only part of the file (board.pcb) that mentions the footprint and/or the pins. Element(0x0 Wiz812mj.fp U102 unknown 10 10 3 100 0x0) ( Pin(310 -450 60 28 J1-1 0x101) Pin(310 350 60 28 J2-1 0x101)

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Jim
Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 07:27 -0500, Jim wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: This is the only part of the file (board.pcb) that mentions the footprint and/or the pins. Element(0x0 Wiz812mj.fp U102 unknown 10 10 3 100 0x0) ( Pin(310 -450 60 28 J1-1 0x101) Pin(310 350 60

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 08:55 -0500, Jim wrote: So I thought maybe the Element line wasn't right since it looks different from yours, so I changed it to Element( Wiz812mj.fp U102 unknown 10 10 3 100 0 100 ) And now it fails on line 74. I'm getting more confused by the minute. There

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 09:41 -0500, Jim wrote: Do you know where the definitive description of the footprint file can be found? It's not land_patterns_20050129.pdf which is what googling wanted me to believe. Thanks, Jim. Land_pattern_xxx is right, see link at bottom of this

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 09:41 -0500, Jim wrote: Do you know where the definitive description of the footprint file can be found? It's not land_patterns_20050129.pdf which is what googling wanted me to believe. evince /usr/share/doc/pcb/pcb.pdf.gz Section 8, on file formats. -- Peter

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 15:17 +, Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 09:41 -0500, Jim wrote: Do you know where the definitive description of the footprint file can be found? It's not land_patterns_20050129.pdf which is what googling wanted me to believe. evince

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Jim
Stefan Salewski wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 09:41 -0500, Jim wrote: Do you know where the definitive description of the footprint file can be found? It's not land_patterns_20050129.pdf which is what googling wanted me to believe. Thanks, Jim. Land_pattern_xxx is right, see

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 11:06 -0500, Jim wrote: Land_pattern_xxx is right, see link at bottom of this page: http://www.ssalewski.de/SFG.html.en I think I followed that pattern but it didn't work. I see you have a generator can it do a 4 row DIP? Something with a foot print like:

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread DJ Delorie
One might rationally assume the action ChangePinName does indeed change the pin name, not its label. (Yet n on an object changes the label). Pins have names and numbers, not names and labels. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 11:35 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: One might rationally assume the action ChangePinName does indeed change the pin name, not its label. (Yet n on an object changes the label). Pins have names and numbers, not names and labels. Bah - forgot the terminology. Still - for

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Jim
Stefan Salewski wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 11:06 -0500, Jim wrote: Land_pattern_xxx is right, see link at bottom of this page: http://www.ssalewski.de/SFG.html.en I think I followed that pattern but it didn't work. I see you have a generator can it do a 4 row DIP? Something

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:05 -0500, Jim wrote: Thanks for the offer, I'll take a shot at creating the FP the way you suggested. I need to learn the tool anyway. Yes, this is the best method, if time is not a restriction. The only problem may occur if you have no ruby interpreter

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Steven Michalske
On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: Pin[-45000 -45000 5118 2000 6318 3937 1 1 square] snip Pin[-35000 -45000 5118 2000 6318 3937 1 1 square] This part could not be netlisted. Chould the pins be named J1-1 through J1-20 and J2-1 through J2-20...

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:17 -0800, Steven Michalske wrote: On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: Pin[-45000 -45000 5118 2000 6318 3937 1 1 square] snip Pin[-35000 -45000 5118 2000 6318 3937 1 1 square] This part could not be netlisted. Chould the

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 08:55 -0500, Jim wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 07:27 -0500, Jim wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: This is the only part of the file (board.pcb) that mentions the footprint and/or the pins. Element(0x0 Wiz812mj.fp U102 unknown 10 10 3 100 0x0)

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 09:41 -0500, Jim wrote: dpkg -l | grep -i geda ii geda 1:1.4.0.1 GPL EDA -- So I presume Debian or Ubuntu? I expect if you grab gEDA 1.6.1 from either the Debian sid repositories,

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 21:23 +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:17 -0800, Steven Michalske wrote: On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: Pin[-45000 -45000 5118 2000 6318 3937 1 1 square] snip Pin[-35000 -45000 5118 2000 6318 3937 1 1

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Jim
Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 21:23 +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:17 -0800, Steven Michalske wrote: On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: Pin[-45000 -45000 5118 2000 6318 3937 1 1 square] snip Pin[-35000 -45000 5118 2000

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Jim
Stefan Salewski wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:05 -0500, Jim wrote: It's probably one of a kind. Not worth the trouble I don't think. The datasheet is here http://www.vintagecomputercables.com/datasheet/WIZ812MJ%20Datasheet_V_1.1.pdf It's not something everyone would mount on a PCB.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't find my pins

2010-03-03 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 16:42 -0500, Jim wrote: Perhaps the pin identifier U102-J1-1 is causing issues. Thanks everyone. I think I understand the issues. I'll just go with pin numbers 1-40 and drop the J1 and J2 mess. It won't match the part, but I can translate easy enough. There