Re: gEDA-user: PCB suggestion

2005-01-28 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 05:45:14PM -0500, Joshua Boyd wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 10:42:48PM -0500, Marvin Dickens wrote: > > I realize that this is probably not going to popular with everybody, > > but it would be nice if all of the tools that require a gui were built > > using the same libra

Re: gEDA-user: PCB pin hole size

2005-01-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> BTW: What sizes of holes are in use in US? If you google for "wire size drills" you're likely to find the right list. However, 4pcb at least has filler sizes, and can do pretty much any size - they claim.

Re: gEDA-user: PCB suggestion

2005-01-28 Thread Joshua Boyd
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:14:35PM -0500, Dave McGuire wrote: > On Jan 12, 2005, at 8:27 PM, Bert Douglas wrote: > >>>Motif is, as well as Xaw, X11 Toolkit based, but as a comercial > >>>product lots of people prefer something free. > >> > >> Lesstif. > > > >Motif is now open. > >http://www.openg

Re: gEDA-user: PCB suggestion

2005-01-28 Thread Joshua Boyd
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 07:54:51PM -0500, Dave McGuire wrote: > This has been my experience as well. C++ is a horrid abortion, in my > opinion. C++ code that's truly portable isn't very common. And it isn't even all that hard to get it reasonably portable. It's just less likely to be perfec

Re: gEDA-user: PCB suggestion

2005-01-28 Thread Joshua Boyd
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 10:42:48PM -0500, Marvin Dickens wrote: > I realize that this is probably not going to popular with everybody, > but it would be nice if all of the tools that require a gui were built > using the same library. Preferably, one that ports really easily. > It seems to me that Q

gEDA-user: 4538 symbole on the 4000 library

2005-01-28 Thread Iznogood
Hello, it seems that the component 4538 have a bug when you put a slot attribute: the pins numbers become wrong. I join the right symbol file. If there is someone update the library, it would be nice. Cordially. -- Sur http://www.iznogood-factory.org , vous avez parmi des doc techniques en fra

Re: gEDA-user: next error on cdrom image... :-(

2005-01-28 Thread Tomasz Motylewski
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Charles Lepple wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:36:57 -0800 (PST), Kenneth Long > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > which I do have: > > bash-2.05b# find / -name gdk-pixbuf.h -print > > /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf.h > > You have gdk-pixbuf as included in GTK+ 2.x. I

Re: gEDA-user: next error on cdrom image... :-(

2005-01-28 Thread Charles Lepple
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:36:57 -0800 (PST), Kenneth Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > which I do have: > bash-2.05b# find / -name gdk-pixbuf.h -print > /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf.h [...] > gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. > -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 > -I/usr/lib/g

Re: gEDA-user: next error on cdrom image... :-(

2005-01-28 Thread Kenneth Long
cool. I'll try that when I get home from work tonight. thanks for your help! Ken --- Stuart Brorson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I seem to recall that gerbv recently came out wiht a > 1.0 release, > which apparently took care of a lot of bugs. The > version on the CDROM > is 0.16. Perhaps you

Re: gEDA-user: next error on cdrom image... :-(

2005-01-28 Thread Kenneth Long
cool. I'll try that when I get home from work tonight. thanks for your help! Ken --- Stuart Brorson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I seem to recall that gerbv recently came out wiht a > 1.0 release, > which apparently took care of a lot of bugs. The > version on the CDROM > is 0.16. Perhaps you

Re: gEDA-user: next error on cdrom image... :-(

2005-01-28 Thread Kenneth Long
cool. I'll try that when I get home from work tonight. thanks for your help! Ken --- Stuart Brorson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I seem to recall that gerbv recently came out wiht a > 1.0 release, > which apparently took care of a lot of bugs. The > version on the CDROM > is 0.16. Perhaps you

Re: gEDA-user: next error on cdrom image... :-(

2005-01-28 Thread Stuart Brorson
I seem to recall that gerbv recently came out wiht a 1.0 release, which apparently took care of a lot of bugs. The version on the CDROM is 0.16. Perhaps you can get the latest off the web & build it? You must have a very new gcc; I understand that the newest gcc has played havoc on my CD ROM dist

gEDA-user: next error on cdrom image... :-(

2005-01-28 Thread Kenneth Long
the drama continues. :-) Okay, irregardless of the libreadline gnucap is complete. The next error occurs on installing gerbv. an issue with exportimage.c and a header, gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf.h which I do have: bash-2.05b# find / -name gdk-pixbuf.h -print /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbu

Re: RHEL (was: Re: gEDA-user: More footprint stuff)

2005-01-28 Thread Charles Lepple
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 07:27:21 -0500 (EST), Stuart Brorson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the other hand, Mac's OSX was built upon BSD in only -- what? -- > two years. Heh. Make sure you don't mention that to any NeXT people... OS X evolved from NeXTStep, which took well over two years to develop.

gEDA-user: Verilog Netlist to DEF transform

2005-01-28 Thread Ming Deng
Does anyone know if there is such a program, or a path of programs, which can transform Verilog Netlist to DEF format? Ming

Re: gEDA-user: Gnucap on cdrom image...

2005-01-28 Thread Kenneth Long
argh. I have two libreadline now. Dont think that is very smart? /usr/local/lib: libreadline.so.4 -> libreadline.so.4.3 and /lib: libreadline.so.4 -> libreadline.so.4.3 --- Kenneth Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm just manually installing readline-4.3.tar.gz > from the

Re: gEDA-user: New PCB snapshot (pcb-20050127)

2005-01-28 Thread Levente KOVACS
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:47:37 +0100 "Dan McMahill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've made a new snapshot for pcb. The snapshot may be found at > http://pcb.sf.net Thank you very much for the snapshot. It's great work. I'm still missing the lack of removal of dead polygons and rectangulars. Lev

Re: gEDA-user: Gnucap on cdrom image...

2005-01-28 Thread Kenneth Long
I'm just manually installing readline-4.3.tar.gz from the cdrom... then running installer.exe I still have the other two libs installed through emerge. libedit does not seem to provide 100% of libreadline. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find

Re: gEDA-user: Gnucap on cdrom image...

2005-01-28 Thread Kenneth Long
I did a emerge of both libs on gentoo.. bash-2.05b# emerge libedit bash-2.05b# emerge libtermcap readline is suppose to be in libedit. Is that enough or am I better off manually installing from cdrom readline-4.3.tar.gz I like to keep as many parts emerged as possible. I'm compiling now... bu

Re: gEDA-user: PCB pin hole size

2005-01-28 Thread Wojciech Kazubski
> > Shold the specified diametr be the drill size or finished hole size? > > My fab shop says drill sized are ALWAYS finished size. Only the fab > shop knows how thick their plating is. So the footprint creation guide should contain a notice that: 1) symbols submited to pcb should have diametr of

Re: RHEL (was: Re: gEDA-user: More footprint stuff)

2005-01-28 Thread primorec
http://www.centos.org/ On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:50:50 +, Evan Lavelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Mozilla's given up on threading, so new subject] > > Stuart Brorson wrote: > >>>Anyway, when a company wants to run a copy of RHEL, they are likely to > >>>also want the support & quality assura

Re: gEDA-user: Gnucap on cdrom image...

2005-01-28 Thread al davis
On Friday 28 January 2005 07:04 am, Stuart Brorson wrote: >  I can't speak about which of libtermcap or > libreadline is "better".   You need both. libreadline requires libtermcap.

Re: RHEL (was: Re: gEDA-user: More footprint stuff)

2005-01-28 Thread Evan Lavelle
Stuart Brorson wrote: The reason Apple could do this is that they acutally have revenue, and can therefore support great developers to work on their products full-time. *That's* what Linux lacks right now -- a self-sustaining business model. Finally, I'll point out that Red Hat finally became prof

gEDA-user: Re: RHEL

2005-01-28 Thread Evan Lavelle
DJ Delorie wrote: But RHEL costs ~$800 - $2500 *per year* for usable versions. If that's not "screwing your customers for profit", then I don't know what is. Most of that cost is for 24/7 phone support, which our customers feel is a reasonable price for what they get. Note: the way our company w

gEDA-user: New PCB snapshot (pcb-20050127)

2005-01-28 Thread Dan McMahill
I've made a new snapshot for pcb. The snapshot may be found at http://pcb.sf.net As always, this is a snapshot of a work in progress. There have been many bug fixes and feature additions and as always there is still more to do. Thanks to everyone who has provided feedback. A summary of the chang

Re: RHEL (was: Re: gEDA-user: More footprint stuff)

2005-01-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> Stuart (who is asking in ignorance about what's acutally on RHEL. . . .) The whole point of RHEL is that it's guaranteed stable for 5 years or so, so that customers don't have the issue of upgrade incompatibilities every few months or end-of-life every year or twoo. The software is slightly old

Re: RHEL (was: Re: gEDA-user: More footprint stuff)

2005-01-28 Thread Stuart Brorson
> But RHEL costs ~$800 - $2500 *per year* for usable versions. If that's > not "screwing your customers for profit", then I don't know what is. I > have no problem with profit, but this model doesn't make sense. I would > happily pay a few hundred $ for a stable professionally-supported and > d

Re: gEDA-user: New PCB snapshot

2005-01-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> I am receiving mails from PCB CVS with the text "set version for > snapshot". Thats because a new snapshot is near? Is it possible to > say to us (users) whats new, and so on? Dan mentioned it was time for a new snapshot. He might be working on it. > Sorry if I am too curious, but I am a PCB

Re: RHEL (was: Re: gEDA-user: More footprint stuff)

2005-01-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> "White Box Enterprise Linux 3.0" Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of.

Re: RHEL (was: Re: gEDA-user: More footprint stuff)

2005-01-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> But RHEL costs ~$800 - $2500 *per year* for usable versions. If that's > not "screwing your customers for profit", then I don't know what is. Most of that cost is for 24/7 phone support, which our customers feel is a reasonable price for what they get. Note: the way our company works, your qu

gEDA-user: New PCB snapshot

2005-01-28 Thread Xtian Xultz
I am receiving mails from PCB CVS with the text "set version for snapshot". Thats because a new snapshot is near? Is it possible to say to us (users) whats new, and so on? Sorry if I am too curious, but I am a PCB fan and the latest snapshot had very good improvements but a lot of unstability, s

Re: gEDA-user: Gnucap on cdrom image...

2005-01-28 Thread Stuart Brorson
FWIW, the libreadline tarball is on the CD, so you don't need to go looking for it. I can't speak about which of libtermcap or libreadline is "better". Stuart > > looks like I'm missing another dependancy.. > seeing if libedit will work. > > which is "better" libtermcap or libreadline? >

Re: RHEL (was: Re: gEDA-user: More footprint stuff)

2005-01-28 Thread Wojciech Kazubski
> > BTW, if anyone has a link to the stripped-out version, I'd appreciate > it. I spent some time looking a couple of months ago and found nothing. > > Evan Wine (Ms Windows emulator) is packaged for "White Box Enterprise Linux 3.0" which is claimed to be RHEL compatible (see: http://www.winehq.c

RHEL (was: Re: gEDA-user: More footprint stuff)

2005-01-28 Thread Evan Lavelle
[Mozilla's given up on threading, so new subject] Stuart Brorson wrote: Anyway, when a company wants to run a copy of RHEL, they are likely to also want the support & quality assurance that comes with the real McCoy; they are accordingly willing to pay. And the advantage of GPL'ed software in this

RE: gEDA-user: More footprint stuff

2005-01-28 Thread Robert Thorpe
Another use is this: Imagine your company does not use Linux at all. A vendor of proprietry software you use is offering a Linux version of their software, and allowing you to trial it against their Windows version. However, they *only* support RHEL. To fairly test this software you either have

Re: gEDA-user: Gnucap on cdrom image...

2005-01-28 Thread al davis
On Friday 28 January 2005 02:22 am, Kenneth Long wrote: > looks like I'm missing another dependancy.. > seeing if libedit will work. > > which is "better" libtermcap or libreadline? > libedit seems to have libreadline. > > Ken > > > bash-2.05b$ ./configure > Configuring gnucap using --prefix=/usr

Re: gEDA-user: cdrom install question

2005-01-28 Thread Levente KOVACS
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 02:02:54 +0100 "Kenneth Long" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I get a weird response when I execute direct: > I'm root and execute permissions are on the > program "installer.exe". > > bash-2.05b# /mnt/cdrom0/installer.exe --log --verbose > bash: /mnt/cdrom0/installer.exe: Permi