Re: gEDA-user: Autorouter segfaults

2006-03-12 Thread kmk
Harry Eaton wrote: > solution for you is to use a text editor to remove the offending "text" > (the one at 303567, 165071) -while you're at it, remove the other 3 null > texts. Did it and pcb does not segfault anymore :-) > Now if PCB created these null texts, that's a problem. It did. I did

Re: gEDA-user: local only mode for syms and footprints

2006-03-12 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >I think this is a bug. You *definitely* want gnetlist and gschem to use the [snip] >I'm pretty certain that the current behaviour is the Wrong Thing. I propose >that library definitions should be in system-gafrc, and that system-gschemrc >should _never_ include library definitions.

Re: gEDA-user: New project release

2006-03-12 Thread Dan McMahill
Vanessa Dannenberg wrote: On Sunday 12 March 2006 20:02, Dan McMahill wrote: Do you have docs for the eagle netlist format? Or for that matter, does it look fairly simple? If so, it shouldn't be hard to make one. Netlist Exported from Quickscan-0.1.2.sch at 3/12/2006 20:14:27 EAGLE

Re: gEDA-user: Autorouter segfaults

2006-03-12 Thread Harry Eaton
kmk wrote: Hi, if I try to use any of the autorouting features of pcb with my PID-project, the program segfaults immediately. The problem stems from the copper text appearing on the "component" layer. Admittedly the string is an empty string, but it is origin point is outside the bounds of

Re: gEDA-user: New project release

2006-03-12 Thread Vanessa Dannenberg
On Sunday 12 March 2006 20:02, Dan McMahill wrote: Do you have docs for the eagle netlist format? Or for > that matter, does it look fairly simple? If so, it shouldn't be hard to > make one. Don't have any documentation for it, but it is plain text and somewhat simple. Here's what the output

Re: gEDA-user: High speed decoupling

2006-03-12 Thread John Doty
On Mar 12, 2006, at 3:59 AM, David Hart wrote: I was particularly impressed in this webinar, and the subject of thermal noise generated by resistors in an analog circuit. I'd forgotten that resistors with higher values contribute more thermal noise. Depends on whether noise voltage or cur

Re: gEDA-user: New project release

2006-03-12 Thread Dan McMahill
DJ Delorie wrote: Odd, I suppose it could be a version mismatch, I'm using a copy of PCB fetched from CVS a week or two ago. If the first line is line 1 (rather than 0) then line 11 just specifies the DRC rules for this board. Dan's been adding DRC settings, so you'll need a newer PCB to read

Re: gEDA-user: New project release

2006-03-12 Thread Dan McMahill
Vanessa Dannenberg wrote: On Sunday 12 March 2006 15:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a lot of latitude as to what constitutes "a schematic". As long as you have a working process to generate a netlist from source material, you're OK. Two nominally independent schematics, and a bit of pe

Re: gEDA-user: New project release

2006-03-12 Thread DJ Delorie
> Odd, I suppose it could be a version mismatch, I'm using a copy of > PCB fetched from CVS a week or two ago. If the first line is line 1 > (rather than 0) then line 11 just specifies the DRC rules for this > board. Dan's been adding DRC settings, so you'll need a newer PCB to read these files.

Re: gEDA-user: PCB on gEDA CDROM

2006-03-12 Thread DJ Delorie
> > I suggest you look and see if it's already there before asking for it, > > because it is. > > I looked into the README and couldn't find it there. I installed the CD and it was.

Re: gEDA-user: Too many files

2006-03-12 Thread Xtian Xultz
Em Dom 12 Mar 2006 16:48, kmk escreveu: > Karel Kulhavy wrote: > > gschem exited with > > Too many files! Increase MAX_FILES > > after I clicked into /usr/bin in Save As dialog. > > Shudder! > You really don't want to save your gschem files in /usr/bin. On a decent > system users don't have write p

Re: gEDA-user: New project release

2006-03-12 Thread Rick Hochhalter
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:40:19 -0500 Vanessa Dannenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> graced us with this prophetic message: > On Sunday 12 March 2006 16:14, kmk wrote: > > > Vanessa Dannenberg wrote: > > > http://starbase.globalpc.net/~vanessa/projects.html > > > > The *.pcb version gives me "syntax error i

Re: gEDA-user: PCB on gEDA CDROM

2006-03-12 Thread Stuart Brorson
> > On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:59:58AM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > > > > > I suggested the PCB program to be included on the gEDA CD-ROM. > > > > I suggest you look and see if it's already there before asking for it, > > because it is. > > I looked into the README and couldn't find it there. Um

Re: gEDA-user: Prototyping with SMTs

2006-03-12 Thread Marvin Dickens
Karel Kulhavy wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 11:33:55AM -0800, Samuel A. Falvo II wrote: I'm old-school. Whenever and whereever possible, I prefer to prototype what I'm working on incrementally. For example, my Kestrel 1 computer is a clear demonstration of this. It's built on one of those

Re: gEDA-user: Prototyping with SMTs

2006-03-12 Thread 9000 VAX
On 3/10/06, Samuel A. Falvo II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem with SMTs is that they're very poor at allowing someone to > incrementally build with them. Wire-wrap sockets for SMT chips are > expensive if you can find them, and they are usually quite limited in > the number of pins the

Re: gEDA-user: Too many files

2006-03-12 Thread Carlos Nieves Ónega
El dom, 12-03-2006 a las 19:24 +0100, Karel Kulhavy escribió: > gschem exited with > Too many files! Increase MAX_FILES > after I clicked into /usr/bin in Save As dialog. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin$ ls | wc -l > 2329 Short answer: 1) Use the bug tracking system already available. 2) Check

Re: gEDA-user: New project release

2006-03-12 Thread Vanessa Dannenberg
On Sunday 12 March 2006 15:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There's a lot of latitude as to what constitutes "a schematic". > As long as you have a working process to generate a netlist from > source material, you're OK. Two nominally independent schematics, > and a bit of perl to glue their netli

Re: gEDA-user: New project release

2006-03-12 Thread Vanessa Dannenberg
On Sunday 12 March 2006 16:14, kmk wrote: > Vanessa Dannenberg wrote: > > http://starbase.globalpc.net/~vanessa/projects.html > > The *.pcb version gives me "syntax error in line 11" and fails to show > the layout :-| --> Wrong pcb version? (I use v20050609) Odd, I suppose it could be a version

Re: gEDA-user: an unplated via - a capacitor inside a board

2006-03-12 Thread John Sheahan
Karel Kulhavy wrote: Would it be possible to put this guide on the website (possibly stating that this is an innovative novel method that other programs are not having in their help)? ;-) Its not actually new or PCB specific. I have done this before with several other PCB packages. This was

Re: gEDA-user: New project release

2006-03-12 Thread kmk
Vanessa Dannenberg wrote: > http://starbase.globalpc.net/~vanessa/projects.html The *.pcb version gives me "syntax error in line 11" and fails to show the layout :-| --> Wrong pcb version? (I use v20050609) I could view the Gerber files gerbv though. ---<(kaimartin)>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak [EM

Re: gEDA-user: New project release

2006-03-12 Thread ldoolitt
Vanessa - On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 03:12:59PM -0500, Vanessa Dannenberg wrote: > The PowerSID project I've been designing with PCB has finally been finished > and released. [chop] > http://starbase.globalpc.net/~vanessa/projects.html > Since this all-in-one board was designed by mentally piecing t

gEDA-user: New project release

2006-03-12 Thread Vanessa Dannenberg
The PowerSID project I've been designing with PCB has finally been finished and released. You all probably won't be interested in the intended use/function of the board, but I thought a few people might wish to see it anyway. http://starbase.globalpc.net/~vanessa/projects.html Pay no attentio

Re: gEDA-user: Howto draw copper at free areas?

2006-03-12 Thread Vanessa Dannenberg
On Sunday 12 March 2006 14:08, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > [Clearance adjustments in Protel] look pussy. Eagle does the same. PCB is > the only real way to go for real boys. ...and girls :-) -- "Sometimes paranoia can be helpful. Usually it isn't, and when you learn that, life improves." Vanessa Dan

Re: gEDA-user: an unplated via - a capacitor inside a board

2006-03-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 March 2006 13:55, Karel Kulhavy wrote: >On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 07:27:52PM -0300, Xtian Xultz wrote: >> Em Sáb 11 Mar 2006 18:34, Karel Kulhavy escreveu: >> > Let's say I have a ground plane on the solder side and power plane >> > on the component side. I want to place a blocking capac

Re: gEDA-user: PCB on gEDA CDROM

2006-03-12 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:59:58AM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > > > I suggested the PCB program to be included on the gEDA CD-ROM. > > I suggest you look and see if it's already there before asking for it, > because it is. I looked into the README and couldn't find it there. CL<

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering fine pitch chips

2006-03-12 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 01:39:57PM -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: > Randall Nortman wrote: > > >Overall, reflow soldering is much faster. You spend a long time > >placing each component, but then the soldering itself happens for the > >whole board at once, in just a few minutes. The process is remar

Re: gEDA-user: Too many files

2006-03-12 Thread kmk
Karel Kulhavy wrote: > gschem exited with > Too many files! Increase MAX_FILES > after I clicked into /usr/bin in Save As dialog. Shudder! You really don't want to save your gschem files in /usr/bin. On a decent system users don't have write permission at these sensitive areas of the file system i

Re: gEDA-user: Prototyping with SMTs

2006-03-12 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 11:33:55AM -0800, Samuel A. Falvo II wrote: > I'm old-school. Whenever and whereever possible, I prefer to > prototype what I'm working on incrementally. For example, my Kestrel > 1 computer is a clear demonstration of this. It's built on one of > those cheesy Radio Shack

Re: gEDA-user: Howto draw copper at free areas?

2006-03-12 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 03:22:02AM +0100, kmk wrote: > DJ Delorie wrote: > >>Is there an action to increase > >>the clearance, if I made up my mind? > > K +2 mil object > > > This is really handy! In protel this was awkward and involved juggling > with rules that match specific nets. Th

Re: gEDA-user: component values on silk layer?

2006-03-12 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:36:09PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > > > Actually, in gtk pcb "Screen->Displayed element name->Value" seems > > to produce the requested effect. I've just now tested it with the > > PostScript output (not Gerber). > > Hey, so it does. It didn't look like it just from re

Re: gEDA-user: an unplated via - a capacitor inside a board

2006-03-12 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 07:27:52PM -0300, Xtian Xultz wrote: > Em Sáb 11 Mar 2006 18:34, Karel Kulhavy escreveu: > > Let's say I have a ground plane on the solder side and power plane on > > the component side. I want to place a blocking capacitor between those > > two with the minimum parasitic in

gEDA-user: Fixed version of SMD footprint creation guideline

2006-03-12 Thread Karel Kulhavy
http://ronja.twibright.com/guidelines/footprints.php CL<

gEDA-user: Too many files

2006-03-12 Thread Karel Kulhavy
gschem exited with Too many files! Increase MAX_FILES after I clicked into /usr/bin in Save As dialog. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin$ ls | wc -l 2329 CL<

gEDA-user: gEDA save as dialog

2006-03-12 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I suggest if you change the directory in the bottom line of the save as dialog and press then the save as dialog to change directory to that directory. Now it doesn't do anything and you have to click click click ... CL<

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Libraries

2006-03-12 Thread John Luciani
It does not appear that the terminals on the SOT-227 were designed to be attached to a PCB. Isn't there a gap between the tab and body that would crush if you tighten a screw without a terminal inserted? You are unlikely to get a lot of thermal conduction through the terminals which is why the man

Re: gEDA-user: High speed decoupling

2006-03-12 Thread David Hart
On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 15:05 +0100, kmk wrote: > David Hart wrote: > > > "Managing Noise and Ground in Precision Analog System Applications" > > on-line webinar at: > > http://w.on24.com/r.htm?e=19853&s=1&k=A8EB366553A7E55131C3E0B733E2654E > > This requires registration with full information inclu

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Libraries

2006-03-12 Thread Marc Price
What I was also wondering is does this part generate heat and need a heat sink, i was thinking to have large wide tracks with holes in the pcb lined up to the 4 screws on top of the IGBT i was gonna use 4 of these transistors and then attach them to the heat sink so there was no wires. Marc :-