Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-08 Thread Carl Witty
On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 19:07 -0600, David Hart wrote: > Though not a GNU project, the JHDL Project is an OpenSource project. > >From their web site at: > > http://www.jhdl.org/overview.html > > there is this short teaser about JHDL: > > Simply put, JHDL is a structurally based Hardwar

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-06 Thread Darrell Harmon
On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 02:32:41PM +0100, antonio bergnoli wrote: > Darrel Harmon wrote: > > > >In the project I am currently working on, I am trying to do most > >of the work in a DSP rather than the FPGA so users can make more > >modifications without having to install non free sofware. > > > >

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-06 Thread antonio bergnoli
Darrel Harmon wrote: In the project I am currently working on, I am trying to do most of the work in a DSP rather than the FPGA so users can make more modifications without having to install non free sofware. Do you mean that you have a complete toolchain to play with DSP under Linux ? Or do

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-05 Thread Samuel A. Falvo II
On 11/5/05, Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But GPL is not about open source. GPL is about free software. Those > are two different philosophies. Read their definition. Yes, please do. At least as of GPL 2.0, the GPL *mandates* that source code be available for software at nominal cost

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-05 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 10:10:40PM -0800, Stephen Meier wrote: > I have to agree. Open Source, in my opinion, is not about taking the > work of others without their consent. Open source is about authors > deciding to share, not about theft. If you don't like the license of a > piece of code, the

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-03 Thread Stephen Meier
I have to agree. Open Source, in my opinion, is not about taking the work of others without their consent. Open source is about authors deciding to share, not about theft. If you don't like the license of a piece of code, then don't use the code. It is not ethical to ignore the restrictions. If

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-03 Thread Marvin Dickens
On Wednesday 02 November 2005 11:22, Michael Sokolov wrote: > Darrell Harmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whatever you do, please respect the copyrights. > > That is your opinion. Others have the right to disagree. > > Can we take this off-list, please? > > MS Hello list, It's been a while sin

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-02 Thread Al Davis
> Darrell Harmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whatever you do, please respect the copyrights. On Wednesday 02 November 2005 11:22 am, Michael Sokolov wrote: > That is your opinion.  Others have the right to disagree. > > Can we take this off-list, please? Illegal use of proprietary software i

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-02 Thread Dave McGuire
On Nov 2, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Michael Sokolov wrote: Whatever you do, please respect the copyrights. That is your opinion. Others have the right to disagree. Can we take this off-list, please? Speaking of which... -Dave -- Dave McGuire"You'll have to be a lot more sp

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Darrell Harmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whatever you do, please respect the copyrights. That is your opinion. Others have the right to disagree. Can we take this off-list, please? MS

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs?= Levente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The thing is that from Altera, you CAN download code for Windows, but > not for linux. As I've said, I've got mine through some social engineering. > Can you make a copy, and send it to me? :-) Yes, of course! I offer free copies t

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-02 Thread Harold D. Skank
On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 20:35 -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: > On Tuesday 01 November 2005 05:32 pm, Dan McMahill wrote: > > > In the project I am currently working on, I am trying to do most > > > of the work in a DSP rather than the FPGA so users can make more > > > modifications without having to insta

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-01 Thread Darrell Harmon
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 07:07:05PM -0600, David Hart wrote: > On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 16:52 -0500, Darrell Harmon wrote: > > Though not a GNU project, the JHDL Project is an OpenSource project. > >From their web site at: > > http://www.jhdl.org/overview.html > > there is this short teaser abou

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-01 Thread Bob Paddock
On Tuesday 01 November 2005 05:32 pm, Dan McMahill wrote: > > In the project I am currently working on, I am trying to do most > > of the work in a DSP rather than the FPGA so users can make more > > modifications without having to install non free sofware. > > Out of curiosity, which DSP chip can

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-01 Thread David Hart
On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 16:52 -0500, Darrell Harmon wrote: > On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 10:26:21PM +0100, Kov?cs Levente wrote: > > Anyways... I have not yet decided which to use... I'd like to pay the > > least. Poor guy from a technical university. > > > > Levente > > > > -- > > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROT

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-01 Thread Darrell Harmon
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 05:32:20PM -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: > > >In the project I am currently working on, I am trying to do most > >of the work in a DSP rather than the FPGA so users can make more > >modifications without having to install non free sofware. > > > > Out of curiosity, which DSP

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-01 Thread Stuart Brorson
> > In the project I am currently working on, I am trying to do most > > of the work in a DSP rather than the FPGA so users can make more > > modifications without having to install non free sofware. > > > > Out of curiosity, which DSP chip can be programmed with free (open > source or otherwise

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-01 Thread Dan McMahill
In the project I am currently working on, I am trying to do most of the work in a DSP rather than the FPGA so users can make more modifications without having to install non free sofware. Out of curiosity, which DSP chip can be programmed with free (open source or otherwise) software? I st

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-01 Thread Darrell Harmon
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 10:26:21PM +0100, Kov?cs Levente wrote: > Anyways... I have not yet decided which to use... I'd like to pay the > least. Poor guy from a technical university. > > Levente > > -- > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AIM: ha5ogl > ICQ: 48710903 > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo!: k

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-01 Thread Kovács Levente
>somewhat difficult to get working , and is a slow pig. Well.. 300Mb is the size of Quartus... One would not expect that it's so called light weight... > I will never, ever, ever use Xilinx again. They have lost my > business. It'll be all Altera from here forward. Altera's Quartus > software i

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-11-01 Thread Kovács Levente
Hi All, Thanx for the hints on FPGAs! Good news that the Xilinx' ISE works with Debian (which I use). Good bye for now! -- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ha5ogl ICQ: 48710903 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: kieg_tk16 Home Page: http://web.interware.hu/lekovacs Public key: http://web.interware.hu

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-10-29 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: antonio bergnoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: fpga Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:20:47 +0200 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > in xilinx ise webpack the Gui (project navigator) is not mandatory. > you can use command line tools as well as is depicted in xilinx u

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-10-29 Thread antonio bergnoli
in xilinx ise webpack the Gui (project navigator) is not mandatory. you can use command line tools as well as is depicted in xilinx user guide. -- Antonio Bergnoli INFN Sez Padova Via Marzolo n.8 35131 Padova ITALY Tel +39 049 827 7093 Cell +39 328 232 8803 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME C

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-10-28 Thread Darrell Harmon
On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 02:51:41PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > > > You will need Motif from non-free. > > > > Is that what libXm.so.3 is? > > In Fedora, you'd want the lesstif package. Xm is the X windows Motif > GUI library. Lesstif is an open source clone of Motif. There's an > "OpenMotif"

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-10-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: Kovács Levente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: gEDA-user: fpga Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:09:13 +0200 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hey all, > > Can someone point me some article about FPGA programming on Linux. I > mean... from design to uploading the code to the FPGA. What tools are > ava

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-10-28 Thread Dave McGuire
On Oct 28, 2005, at 2:26 PM, Michael Sokolov wrote: The Linux version is quite usable, you just have to give up your citizenship in copyrighting nations and become a citizen of a country whose constitution prohibits intellectual property and other forms of slavery and encourages and empowers its

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-10-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> > You will need Motif from non-free. > > Is that what libXm.so.3 is? In Fedora, you'd want the lesstif package. Xm is the X windows Motif GUI library. Lesstif is an open source clone of Motif. There's an "OpenMotif" package too, but that's the window manager.

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-10-28 Thread 9000 VAX
Michael Sokolov was moderated on the classiccmp mailing list for this kind of posts. Here is the letter by the classiccmp moderator, http://classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2005-October/205517.html vax, 9000

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-10-28 Thread Michael Sokolov
Darrell Harmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also use Xilinx ISE Webpack. Xilinx only supports it > on RHEL, but it works alright on debian. The Xilinx ISE Webpack is the worst crock of $hit I have ever seen. They've done everything they could to make it impossible to install and use. The distr

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-10-28 Thread Darrell Harmon
On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 01:17:43PM +0200, antonio bergnoli wrote: > there are very good tools pertaining this task. > i use dayly this great software: > > - Emacs + vhdl mode + speedbar ( as editor and code browser); [GPL] > - ghdl as vhdl simulator; (Great!!) [GPL] > - gtkwave as wave viewer; [

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-10-28 Thread hoyuka hoya
Hello, For verilog synthesis and simulation you can use icarus verilog (iverilog). It's a small, easy to use and fast tool. It's available as a debian package in the standard distributions. I have found verilog's syntax more friendly than vhdl's syntax. For verilog syntax highlighting I have tried

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-10-28 Thread Kovács Levente
Hey, Thanks for the quick answer! > you have to spend a week reading documentation but at the end you'll > have a complete FPGA devel system running over linux Yes, that's OKAY. Thanks... -- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ha5ogl ICQ: 48710903 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: kieg_tk16 Home Pag

Re: gEDA-user: fpga

2005-10-28 Thread antonio bergnoli
there are very good tools pertaining this task. i use dayly this great software: - Emacs + vhdl mode + speedbar ( as editor and code browser); [GPL] - ghdl as vhdl simulator; (Great!!) [GPL] - gtkwave as wave viewer; [GPL] - xilinx ise webpack as synthesys , place an route an porgramming tools