Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

2016-02-21 Thread Andreas Kolbe
It's here, John: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-08-19/Op-ed Andreas On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:17 AM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Robert Fernandez > wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Feb

Re: [Gendergap] Atlantic article..."How Wikipedia is Hostile to Women"

2015-10-21 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Good that this story has been told, at last. Overdue. (Minor quibbles: Eric is not an admin, and the New York Times piece was not written by a NYT reporter. Corrections possible?) On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Kevin Gorman wrote: > Thanks for sending this out Carol, you

[Gendergap] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of WikiWomen's User Group

2015-07-19 Thread Andreas Kolbe
From Wikimedia-l. -- Forwarded message -- From: Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve Date: Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 12:24 PM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of WikiWomen's User Group To: wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Dear all, I am pleased and honoured to announce on behalf

[Gendergap] Lightbreather arbitration case

2015-07-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
The proposed decision in the Lightbreather case was posted yesterday. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Lightbreather/Proposed_decision It comments extensively on harassment. The proposed decision has already been controversially discussed on Twitter:

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-02-05 Thread Andreas Kolbe
David Auerbach in Slate on The Wikipedia Ouroboros: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/02/wikipedia_gamergate_scandal_how_a_bad_source_made_wikipedia_wrong_about.single.html On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:40 PM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marie,

[Gendergap] FOSDEM report from Wikimedia-l

2015-02-04 Thread Andreas Kolbe
This post from Romaine on Wikimedia-l caught my eye: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2015-February/076685.html Parts of it touched on the gender gap. Those parts are copied below: ---o0o--- Hi all, The past weekend was great! Wikimedia was at FOSDEM, the Free and Open Source

Re: [Gendergap] surveys of active female editors?

2015-02-03 Thread Andreas Kolbe
happy to share a link to the entire note once it’s available. I’m also happy to collaborate with others re: future research. Best, Amanda / Mssemantics From: Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com Reply-To: 'Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participation of women

Re: [Gendergap] More press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-02-01 Thread Andreas Kolbe
One more, by Andy Cush: http://internet.gawker.com/the-gamergate-decision-shows-exactly-whats-broken-about-1682639327 Quote: Maher's email, and the official Wikipedia statements on Gamergate, are careful to point out that the arbitration committee has the authority to govern disputes about the

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Press coverage is widening: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/23/wikipedia-bans-editors-from-gender-related-articles-amid-gamergate-controversy http://internet.gawker.com/wikipedia-purged-a-group-of-feminist-editors-because-of-1681463331

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Note: most of the in trouble editor's aren't that productive at contributing feminist content to Wikipedia. I have interacted with only four of them - Black Kite, Future Perfect at Sunrise, TarainDC and Bilby - only

Re: [Gendergap] [Wikimedia-l] surveys of active female editors?

2015-01-20 Thread Andreas Kolbe
+1. Here are some more questions that I would be interested in having answers to: -- What do women who are presently editing find most demotivating about contributing to Wikipedia? -- Have they ever thought of throwing in the towel, and what were the reasons? -- Based on past experience, what

Re: [Gendergap] Fwd: Update on 2012 editor survey results

2015-01-15 Thread Andreas Kolbe
about age and education level, so maybe there will be some hard data for those who continue to suggest dumbing things down or making them cutesy in order to make WP palatable for women. Regards, Neotarf -- Forwarded message -- From: Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com Date: Wed

Re: [Gendergap] Fwd: Update on 2012 editor survey results

2015-01-15 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Lest conspiracy theories get any more exciting, I've asked Tilman (who just moved into my department, and has been responsible for the survey results) to give an update on where things are and what the main holdup has

[Gendergap] Update on 2012 editor survey results

2015-01-14 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Tilman Bayer has, at long last, responded to inquiries about the as yet unreleased gender split in the 2012 editor survey: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Wikipedia_Editor_Survey_2012#Looking_for_survey_results Nearly two years ago, Tilman had said: ---o0o--- Beckie and I have

Re: [Gendergap] What's happening at ArbCom re WP:GGTF

2014-11-30 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: my joke about the systemic bias card (which is evidence against me in Arbitration!); Yeah, this is one of the more bizarre diffs. I am glad a couple of arbitrators opposed on the basis of that. I would be even

Re: [Gendergap] x% female, y% male. ???

2014-11-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote: See [http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/the-wikipedia-gender-gap-revisited Mako's study] which includes the initial numbers from before his changes. I thought the study results were already released by the time he did the

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia and the war on women’s dignity

2014-09-11 Thread Andreas Kolbe
In my opinion, women should look to organising off-wiki. Women-only site Women.com was mentioned the other day on the Gender Gap Task Force page. Activism there could certainly fulfil a useful function. Ultimately, I think there should be a separate site for the gender gap effort – combining a

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia and the war on women’s dignity

2014-09-11 Thread Andreas Kolbe
. Risker/Anne On 11 September 2014 18:51, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion, women should look to organising off-wiki. Women-only site Women.com was mentioned the other day on the Gender Gap Task Force page. Activism there could certainly fulfil a useful function. Ultimately

[Gendergap] Emotions under Discussion: Gender, Status and Communication in Online Collaboration

2014-09-01 Thread Andreas Kolbe
This is a new paper, published a couple of weeks ago. (Sorry if it's been mentioned before, I couldn't see a related thread.) http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0104880 Principal findings: We find that administrators maintain a rather neutral, impersonal tone,

Re: [Gendergap] Why Women Have No Time For Wikipedia (WPO article)

2014-08-29 Thread Andreas Kolbe
the discussion, elect to see all posts, including the downvoted ones, as otherwise you'll miss some of the more worthwhile ones. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marielle, On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Marielle Volz marielle.v...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Gendergap] Why Women Have No Time For Wikipedia (WPO article)

2014-08-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
be obtained by redoing Hill Shaw‘s analysis on the raw dataset. On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Tim Davenport shoehu...@gmail.com wrote: There is a new blog post up on Wikipedia-criticism site Wikipediocracy that should be of interest to this list. Andreas Kolbe with Nathalie Collida

Re: [Gendergap] Why Women Have No Time For Wikipedia (WPO article)

2014-08-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
have access to the gender demographics results, and if so, could you share them? Best, Andreas On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:42 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: I will have to look into Hill Shaw

Re: [Gendergap] Why Women Have No Time For Wikipedia (WPO article)

2014-08-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Hi Marielle, On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Marielle Volz marielle.v...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the response Andreas. I've updated with the 8.5% source. I have updated my text in line with your comments, and added an author's note acknowledging your input. Best regards, Andreas

[Gendergap] Blog post on brassiere article

2013-10-30 Thread Andreas Kolbe
This blog post of ours http://wikipediocracy.com/2013/10/27/everything-you-never-needed-to-know-about-bras-but-wikipedia-will-tell-you-anyway/ seems to have made a bit of an impact on the brassiere GA. Note that we welcome guest blog submissions on gender issues. Andreas

[Gendergap] What should we do about Wikipedia?

2013-05-20 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Hi all, A really good piece by Martha Nichols and Lorraine Berry appeared today in the online literary magazine, Talking Writing. http://talkingwriting.com/what-should-we-do-about-wikipedia/ It quotes the opinions of several women writers and is a follow-up to both Filipacchi's op-ed and the

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-15 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Sarah et al On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: I think this is my first Commons deletion nom. I'm trying to

Re: [Gendergap] can the Commons images thread move?

2013-05-14 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I agree with Sarah: the thread should stay, tagged with [Commons] as Erik has suggested. We are actually making progress – painful progress at times, but significant progress nevertheless. Andreas On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:21

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: As I have said before, I am happy to work with you or anyone on drafting a better policy. (I realize you offered a two word edit, but in my

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Here is an example of a recent deletion request that was closed as Keep. (While the image is not safe for work, the following link to the deletion discussion is. The deletion discussion does not show the image, only a link to it.)

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Pete, The other day, Daniel Case referred on Commons to Commons' failure as a community to formulate a clear policy about posting identifiable nudes in private places without any indication as to whether they have consented to publication of those images under a licensing scheme that allows for

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I'll gladly pass your comment on, Russavia. How should the attribution read? At present it reads, Which way? Bernard Gagnon/Wikimedia Commons GNU Free Documentation License http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/1106/From-a-distance-Syria-feels-like-Iraq-in-2004 On Mon, May 13, 2013

Re: [Gendergap] Accidental Troll Policy - beyond gender gap

2013-05-10 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Oliver Keyes ironho...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Two good posts. Bear in mind though that there is also a half-way house solution, whereby contributors would identify to the Foundation

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: The Terms of Use prohibit harassment, which is the same word that's used to characterize the behaviors the friendly space policy prohibits. So at least in that respect the two are already somewhat analogous.

Re: [Gendergap] Accidental Troll Policy - beyond gender gap

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Two good posts. Bear in mind though that there is also a half-way house solution, whereby contributors would identify to the Foundation, but remain at liberty to use a pseudonymous user name. Identification might then be a prerequisite for certain community roles (as indeed it is today).

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Pete, I don't know which Commons you participate in. The one I know has tons of nude pictures of women uploaded by anonymous throwaway accounts

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Pete, Please suggest a revised wording that you feel would be clearer. Then we can request that the board adopt it and amend the resolution accordingly. Andreas On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: The resolution wording is: ---o0o--- We feel that it

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I have some comments inline. ---o0o--- This image, originally posted to Flickr, was reviewed on 3 March 2013 by the administrator or reviewer Mattbuck, who confirmed that it was available on Flickr under the

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Pete, Please suggest a revised wording that you feel would be clearer. Then we can request that the board adopt it and amend the resolution accordingly. Andreas ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 1:22 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: Would you like the board to adopt and amend a resolution based

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: I will be of course posting a link to this list on the DR given the idiocy and trolling of a Commons admin going on here. Cheers, Russavia The message you posted at the DR, ---o0o--- *Comment* This nomination

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Mary Mark Ockerbloom celebration.wo...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the question of what can you do, I had the experience last week of starting a new job. I had to read through the guidelines for the organization, which included a section on Equal Opportunity

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
in the press these last couple of weeks. Talk to journalists instead. You may find them more sympathetic, and such an effort has a better chance of bringing about change. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Mary Mark

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
no action, and it's really tiring and depressing to watch and puts the burden on those of us who have limited time and are already burnt out). -Sarah On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Nepenthe topazbutter...@gmail.comwrote

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Pete, I'd invite you to run a Google image search for Bagby Hot Springs, with safe search turned off. The first one hundred images include about as many images of female nudity as the nine-image Commons category. That is the difference between Commons demographics, and general demographics.

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-07 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: It's a good question. Why is it humoured? It doesn't look like you're going

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-01 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: But I think it's important to mention it in the context of this thread. It does seem to me that the sexism is getting worse, more blatant. It is, and the reason is that it is humoured and swept under the carpet, rather than

Re: [Gendergap] Sue's blog about Categorygate

2013-05-01 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Commentary in The Daily Dot. http://www.dailydot.com/society/wikipedia-sexism-problem-sue-gardner/ ---o0o--- Wikipedia found itself squirming uncomfortably last week after charges of systemic sexism drew heat from media outlets across the world and sparked widespread outrage on social media.

Re: [Gendergap] Joseph Reagle on Wikipedia's category taxonomy

2013-04-30 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: This system keeps the categories more straightforward, and pretty well avoids the sort of subtle bias Wikipedia has been caught with here. Defining the precise intersection of interest is up to the

[Gendergap] William Shatner calls Reddit out for racism, sexism

2013-02-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
http://www.dailydot.com/society/william-shatner-reddit-moderation-racism-sexism/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

[Gendergap] How Twitter turned a hashtag prank into a feminist victory

2013-02-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
http://www.dailydot.com/society/ineedmasculismbecause-4chan-mens-rights-mra/ (I hope these may be of tangential interest, even though they are not directly related to Wikipedia.) A. ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Gendergap] Anita Sarkeesian, again

2013-02-04 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.comwrote: Diff of the quoted edit, for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anita_Sarkeesiandiff=prevoldid=523584174 On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.comwrote: I think most

[Gendergap] Anita Sarkeesian, again

2013-01-26 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I think most people here will remember the appalling harassment Anita Sarkeesian suffered in YouTube and on Wikipedia. If not, see http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/harassment-misogyny-and-silencing-on-youtube/

Re: [Gendergap] Anita Sarkeesian, again

2013-01-26 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Diff of the quoted edit, for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anita_Sarkeesiandiff=prevoldid=523584174 On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: I think most people here will remember the appalling harassment Anita Sarkeesian suffered

[Gendergap] Wiki New Zealand

2013-01-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
A lady down under has started her own Wikipedia about New Zealand. http://www.hawkesbay.co.nz/general-stories-page:/52063-a-new-wikipedia-about-new-zealand-origionates-in-hawkes-bay.html ---o0o--- Wiki web to satisfy Kiwi curiosity If knowledge is power then Lillian Grace's new website -

Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

2013-01-17 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Carol Moore DC carolmoor...@verizon.netwrote: It took forever to get the actual article [[Circle jerk]] into Wikipedia - a female did it. Now, now, Carol. The record shows that *I* created the circle jerk article, and I am not a female.

Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

2013-01-16 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know that they contribute to the gender imbalance - although in fairness the women who make it as far as adminship and discussions on Jimbo's page tend to be unusually thick-skinned (I mean it as a compliment!). I

[Gendergap] Wall Street Journal: an overabundance of testosterone

2012-10-17 Thread Andreas Kolbe
There was an article in the Wall Street Journal last week reporting on a longstanding war in Wikipedia: Editors Won't Let It Be When It Comes to 'the' or 'The' http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1872396390444657804578048534112811590.html ---o0o--- The Beatles once sang, Have you heard the

Re: [Gendergap] Violentacrez and civility

2012-10-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
What I was most struck by was the hypocrisy: in Reddit's vision, freedom of speech includes anonymously posting invasive images of teenagers, but excludes posting the name of a 49-year-old programmer who anonymously posts invasive images of teenagers. No privacy rights for teenage girls, complete

Re: [Gendergap] uk chairman band

2012-08-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
The Telegraph has now reported Fæ's resignation as Chair of Wikimedia UK http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/9447161/Wikipedia-charity-chairman-resigns-after-pornography-row.html ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Gendergap] uk chairman band

2012-08-01 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Also coverage of varying quality in ... The Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/9439046/Chairman-of-Wikipedia-charity-banned-after-pornography-row.html Civil Society (media outlet focused on charities)

[Gendergap] Holly Graf

2012-06-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Holly_Grafoldid=476031995 This article, on a female Navy officer – apparently the first woman to command a cruiser in the history of the Navy – seems to exemplify some of the failings of what I call WP:ADAM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ADAM

Re: [Gendergap] positive action Re: Nastiness

2012-06-15 Thread Andreas Kolbe
This case presents a good argument for flagged revisions. Given that the people who made these edits weren't logged in, none of their additions and changes would have been visible to the public. Andreas On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:04 AM, koltzenb...@w4w.net wrote: Hi Gillian, thank you for

Re: [Gendergap] positive action Re: Nastiness

2012-06-15 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not so sure. As soon as the incident was noted, the article was semi-protected, which solved the problem. Perhaps you are suggesting flagged revisions for *all* biographies of living persons (BLPs), by default?

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should there be a Wikipedia boycott over the lack of an image filter?

2012-06-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
We are not talking about filtering standard sex education images as you might find in a school book. We are talking about images or videos of women drinking their urine, masturbating with a toothbrush, or having sex with a dog. Andreas On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Michelle Gallaway

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Where is the pornography?

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Caroline Becker carobecke...@gmail.comwrote: The Flickr account has been closed down (usually for breach of Flickr's terms of service). Note that there are no 18 USC 2257 records demonstrating that the persons depicted were 18 or over. According to my

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Where is the pornography?

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not convinced that sexual images is a gender gap issue. But my non-expert opinion is that there is, or ought to be, a degree of feminist interest in the problems of model releases and age verification. I've always thought it

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Where is the pornography?

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Now, things got complicated when DOJ added an entirely new class of producers you speak of secondary producers, anyone who publishes, reproduces, or reissues explicit material. This is where things get complicated. What

[Gendergap] Gossamer threads archive

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
To the list administrators: Would it be possible to have this list archived on gossamer-threads, like the Foundation list? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/ It's a much more convenient format to refer back to than the monthly archive page. Andreas

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Where is the pornography?

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Outside prosecutors can not prosecute, or charge any editor based on their username, whether its User:someguy542 or User:Ladiesman232, there is no real world link without the IP records. Firstly, that's not the sort of

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Where is the pornography?

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On the Commons side of things, I think there has been an over-aggressive campaign to extract license compliant images from Flickr and other non-WMF repositories that include subjects who were very unlikely to know that their

Re: [Gendergap] gendergap research

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: Usually it's because they are busy. The smallest group - 2% said because of sexualized environments on wiki spaces. Which has led me to believe in the red herring theory about porn and Wikipedia. I think it's

Re: [Gendergap] gendergap research

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Michael J. Lowrey orangem...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Please consider the likelihood that there may be a correlation between the let-it-all-hang-out attitude towards porn, and the problem you

Re: [Gendergap] gendergap research

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
the screenshots are taken from is here: http://cultureandcommunication.org/f09/tdm/elisaverna/wait-did-4chan-just-enlighten-me-i-feel-dirty/ Andreas On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Michael J. Lowrey orangem...@gmail.comwrote

Re: [Gendergap] gendergap research

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:47 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Andreas - you seem to have the belief that the pervasive exposure to pornography is having an adverse effect on community dynamics, and in particular is having a negative impact on the recruitment of women editors. Perhaps you

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Where is the pornography?

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Kim Osman kim.os...@qut.edu.au wrote: Hi, I edit Wikipedia a lot. I probably spend more time than I should editing Wikipedia. Can I ask where there is a prevalence of pornography on Wikipedia? I honestly can't think of a single time I have come across

[Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should there be a Wikipedia boycott over the lack of an image filter?

2012-05-30 Thread Andreas Kolbe
From Larry Sanger's blog: ---o0o--- I want to start a conversation. [...Larry says, in his blog] I. Problem? What problem? So, you didn’t know that Wikipedia has a porn problem? Let me say what I do not mean by “Wikipedia’s porn problem.” I do not mean simply that Wikipedia has a lot of porn.

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should there be a Wikipedia boycott over the lack of an image filter?

2012-05-30 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Caroline Becker carobecke...@gmail.comwrote: What is the relationship with gender-gap ? Are female children more unlikely to contribute to Wikimedia projects if they saw some porn on

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should gender gappers really pay attention?

2012-05-30 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote: So yes, systematic bias can be overcome by encouraging the growth of female contributors. The failure to attract women contributors to editing Wikipedia across various languages has little to do with that. I am

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Where is the pornography?

2012-05-30 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Here are results of a multimedia search for human female in Wikipedia (NSFW): http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Searchlimit=250offset=100redirs=0profile=imagessearch=human+female Did you look at the examples Larry mentioned in his post? There are many more: e.g.

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: There was an idea brainstormed a little while back with me and a few other folks about seeking funding to have a Wiki Loves Women photography event that wanted photographers to take photographs of women - and this

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Wonderful. Don't miss http://thehairpin.com/2011/01/women-laughing-alone-with-salad Andreas On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: ** Perfect opportunity to share one of my favorite blog memes: http://thehairpin.com/2011/11/women-struggling-to-drink-water

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-29 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:22 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: No one here has commented on the fact that the German Wikipedia article uses a special, local version of one of Seedfeeder's images. The German

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I could have a go again, Carol. :) Gay porn is underrepresented in these articles. Andreas On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Carol Moore DC carolmoor...@verizon.netwrote: NO need to censor it. Just do a second one with bushier eyebrows and a goatee and put that up instead :-) On

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
A Google image search for gay cumshot indicates there are 37.8 million results. Cumshot -gay has 44 million. If these numbers are correct, then gay and non-gay cumshots are almost equally common online, and it's a toss-up (pun intended) as to which we should use. There are really two separate

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.orgwrote: ** Fun fact: Female ejaculation is the most viewed Wikipedia article related in any way to feminism (at least since WikiProject Feminism started keeping stats). It's 3 times as popular as the next article on the list,

Re: [Gendergap] World Naked Gardening Day

2012-04-05 Thread Andreas Kolbe
If you don't particularly object to that image http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_Naked_Gardening_Dayoldid=485677881 then I would suggest you have very poor taste and very little sense of what an encyclopedia, even an online encyclopedia, should look like. Andreas On Thu, Apr 5,

Re: [Gendergap] BuzzFeed articles

2012-04-05 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Sequel to Jack Stuef's piece: *It's Almost Impossible To Get Kiddie Porn Off Wikipedia* *Wikipedia's self-policing isn't working.* http://www.buzzfeed.com/jackstuef/its-almost-impossible-to-get-kiddie-porn-off-wiki ___ Gendergap mailing list

[Gendergap] BuzzFeed articles

2012-04-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Two recent Buzzfeed articles: 1. *Wikipedia's Gender Gap, As Measured By Famous Birthdays*, by Anna North http://www.buzzfeed.com/annanorth/wikipedias-gender-gap-as-measured-by-famous-birt A gender gap continues to plague Wikipedia, and one of its main effects is on the kinds of people the

[Gendergap] Niqab

2012-03-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
This edit to the article on the niqab worn by Muslim women http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Niq%C4%81bdiff=482813756oldid=481659451 was pointed out on the Wikipediocracy forum the other day ( http://www.wikipediocracy.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8t=122; I'm a mod there). The edit has

Re: [Gendergap] Commons Searches

2011-10-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
. If a gallery page for cucumber existed, all searches for cucumber would go immediately to that gallery page rather than pulling up random images. Ryan Kaldari On 10/12/11 3:49 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: Thanks for the link, Brandon.  I had raised this in the image filter discussions

Re: [Gendergap] Commons Searches

2011-10-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
go immediately to that gallery page rather than pulling up random images. Ryan Kaldari On 10/12/11 3:49 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: Thanks for the link, Brandon.  I had raised this in the image filter discussions on Foundation-l yesterday (as well as on http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [Gendergap] Commons Searches

2011-10-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
John, From: John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com (Searching for levee in Commons brings up an image of a naked Suicide Girl called Levee in third place.) Its a thumbnail for !@#$ sake, and anyone who finds that image offensive should turn off their internet connection. It's a perfectly nice

Re: [Gendergap] Commons Searches

2011-10-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
and proactively curate the content we have so that there is less potential for astonishment in our search results. Ryan Kaldari On 10/13/11 5:37 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: John, From: John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com (Searching for levee in Commons brings up an image of a naked Suicide Girl called Levee

Re: [Gendergap] Commons Searches

2011-10-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Brandon, Would it be a lot of work to give primary weight in the Commons search listing order to files included in  1. Categories (top level only) and  2. Galleries  whose name matches the search term (or is the plural thereof)? So the top files listed for cucumber, say, would be all the

[Gendergap] Commons Searches

2011-10-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Brandon, On a matter that originally arose in Meta and on the Foundation list,  but may be of interest to this list as well, do you know the answer to the question posed here ... http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-October/006290.html ... or do you know someone who does?

Re: [Gendergap] Commons Searches

2011-10-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
-masturbating On 10/12/11 7:48 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: Brandon, On a matter that originally arose in Meta and on the Foundation list, but may be of interest to this list as well, do you know the answer to the question posed here ... http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-October/006290

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedystka

2011-10-06 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Cool.  Andreas --- On Thu, 6/10/11, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Indeed, that's the current implementation, which is now deployed. Here's an example female user's page on Spanish Wikipedia: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuaria:Angela_tocua And here's an example female user's page on

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedystka

2011-10-05 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Wouldn't the obvious thing in the Spanish Wikipedia be to differentiate between usuario and usuaria? As in Página del usuario / Página de la usuaria? Andreas --- On Wed, 5/10/11, patricia morales mariadelcarmenpatri...@yahoo.com wrote: From: patricia morales mariadelcarmenpatri...@yahoo.com

Re: [Gendergap] Gender neutrality template

2011-10-03 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Thanks all for the feedback. I've started a discussion on-wiki, at  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Feminism#Gender_neutrality_template Andreas --- On Sat, 1/10/11, Daniel and Elizabeth Case danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: From: Daniel and Elizabeth Case

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 5

2011-10-01 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Sat, 1/10/11, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Sarah, I am not sure what you've been trying to say lately[2].  Rest assured that it made perfect sense to others. ;) A.___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org

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