I think Wikipedia editors should be a higher priority than technical
contributors. If one looks at most of the STEM community, it appears to be
a systematic problem in underrepresentation. On the other hand, in the
editing environment, there is an underrepresentation of women identifying
editors bu
better for the mailing list if we stopped talking about
this? Just a suggestion.
On 15 Jul 2017 8:20 PM, "Nathan" wrote:
I believe because the ArbCom case regards the 'Gender Gap Task Force'
On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 7:24 PM, JJ Marr wrote:
> How does this relate to the ge
How does this relate to the gender gap on Wikimedia again?
On 15 Jul 2017 6:00 PM, "Neotarf" wrote:
Just to follow up, the WMF has now responded. I appreciate them taking
time to review these concerns.
>>>your best course of action is to discuss the PII situation with WMF
Legal.
Been and don
"I emailed the WMF in relation to my enwiki arbcom case"
You're getting ignored because the WMF doesn't want to get involved in
community processes. Sorry to be blunt, but you should try emailing ArbCom
before making this type of posting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Commit
I, personally, would rather that this list not be used to criticize
specific editors in a forum that they have no opportunity to respond in.
I'm not a list admin, but I'm pretty sure this list is for talking about
general issues relating to the gender gap.
I would strongly recommend to use the exi
It's not our moral role as Wikipedians and it's not the role of the
Wikimedia foundation to take a deeply investigative role of harassment. We
can block harassers when proof is brought to us, but finding them is
difficult and is a task that should be handled by the respective platforms
themselves.
Two wrongs don't make a right and using this mailing list to advocate for
that crosses a line.
On Jan 30, 2017 05:11, "Fæ" wrote:
> Link: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_
> requests/File:Activist_Gloria_Steinem_Tells_Women%27s_March_
> Protesters_%27Put_Our_Bodies_Where_Our_B
My favorite is the article criticizing "cultural logics" like "valuing
logic over emotion… individual liberty over the common good, and a sense of
entitlement wrapped in a defense of 'free speech'". Really makes you think…
On Aug 23, 2016 9:23 PM, "J Hayes" wrote:
> Yes a little fallout from an
We shouldn't conflate "creepy" and "harassment" at all, to be honest. Sure,
plenty of things that are creepy are also harassment, but plenty of things
that are considered creepy are just poor social skills (laughing
inappropriately) and may even be due to health conditions (greasy skin).
Harassmen
Other highlights:
>From the list of "creepy" behavior
>Laughing at inappropriate times
>Talking too much about a topic
>Displaying too much or too little emotion
>Smiling peculiarly
>Having excessively pale skin
>Having bags under their eyes
and then
>Here’s the thing: not being creepy *is
Yes, exactly. It's probably much more likely to be race driven than gender
driven, if you look at the reasons for his firing.
I spent most of yesterday NOT looking at the news, making my husband turn
off the TV when the news came on, and not logging in to any online
experience where I was likely to
Is that a referral link?
On Apr 1, 2015 6:20 PM, "Jake Orlowitz" wrote:
> This looks worth reading.
>
> This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things: Mapping the Relationship between
> Online Trolling and Mainstream Culture (Information Society Series)
> Hardcover - February 27, 2015by Whitney Phillips
You should ask down at the village pump, then if the response is favorable,
start a BRFA.
On Feb 24, 2015 10:04 PM, "Maia Weinstock" wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There have been numerous discussions among folks in the space exploration
> community that use of the word "manned" and "unmanned" in Wikipedia
What will be discussed in this Kaffeeklatsch area?
On Jan 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Risker" wrote:
> Whatever else "cis" is, it's not a scientific term. It's a buzzword that
> sounds scientific because it derives from the Latin, but in fact it's a
> coined term that is not used in science.
>
> Risker/
So, where is my money, Erik?
On Jan 15, 2015 6:15 AM, "Andreas Kolbe" wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Erik Moeller wrote:
>
>> Lest conspiracy theories get any more exciting, I've asked Tilman (who
>> just moved into my department, and has been responsible for the survey
>> results) to
I don't really care about the results. It's obvious what they're going to
be, and now it's a matter of principle. Where'd my money go? 3 years! The
war of 1812 was shorter! Why is it taking so long?
On Jan 14, 2015 11:05 AM, "Neotarf" wrote:
> Thank you so much for your continued followup on this
AM, "Carol Moore dc" wrote:
> On 1/9/2015 7:37 PM, JJ Marr wrote:
>
>>
>> You should try out Wikia. Make a "female friendly" Wikipedia, or
>> something like that.
>>
>> Thanks. Have been meaning to explore it for other uses. Did see
>
You should try out Wikia. Make a "female friendly" Wikipedia, or something
like that.
On Jan 9, 2015 7:33 PM, "Carol Moore dc" wrote:
> Was thinking about reforming wikipedia again! (fool that I am) and I
> started fantasizing about running into some billionaires I used to know and
> suggesting
Great job! The discussions would have to be publicly accessible, to avoid
an EEML type situation. Also, any "consensus" made there about external
issues would not be applicable, due to the lack of open participation.
On Jan 6, 2015 7:35 PM, "Ryan Kaldari" wrote:
> Cool idea. I added some question
Oh, forgot. But creating this article might fall afoul of the meatpuppetry
policy.
Neotarf is blocked from English Wikipedia, from what I know.
Hence this post?
-Sarah
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:56 AM, JJ Marr wrote:
> You can make one, if you'd like.
> On Dec 22, 2014 1:43 P
You can make one, if you'd like.
On Dec 22, 2014 1:43 PM, "Neotarf" wrote:
> Samira Salih al-Nuaimi (Arabic: سميرة صالح النعيمي ) was kidnapped,
> tortured for 5 days, and publicly executed in the city of Mosul, after
> posting comments on Facebook that were critical of Islamic State (ISIL or
>
Does anyone have a proposed "action plan" to do anything about this?
On Dec 10, 2014 3:05 PM, "regu...@gmail.com" wrote:
> I agree with most of what risker says. There are several groups on the
> project that exert undue influence over their articles whether male or
> female. If the wmf gets invo
What is your proposed solution?
On Dec 9, 2014 8:14 AM, "Fæ" wrote:
> Checking the votes at
> <
> https://vote.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=1000&title=Special%3ASecurePoll%2Flist%2F392&dir=prev
> >
> against the English Wikipedia database, shows an interesting
> statistic. Of the 590 votes cas
fly, but it would
> cause the creepiness to go away.
>
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 11:42 AM, JJ Marr wrote:
>
>> What do you propose a "take back the night" would be like?
>> On Nov 30, 2014 8:12 AM, "Kathleen McCook" wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, one
tinuous attacks.
>
> Wikipedia needs a TAKE BACK THE NIGHT movement. In my days on campus women
> attacked were told they shouldn't be out at night.So marches began to TAKE
> BACK THE NIGHT.
>
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 2:16 AM, JJ Marr wrote:
>
>> To quote you in t
To quote you in the context of your dispute over a video, you say "I
dispute that it "makes little sense" and why does it even need to add
informational value? Why can't it just be to add aesthetics to the article
as pictures and videos often are?" I ask why don't you take that dispute up
with the
Check your spam folder
On Nov 29, 2014 4:05 PM, "Marie Earley" wrote:
> Okay, so this is the last message that I had in my e-mail inbox (it's from
> 4 September 2014).
>
> I've checked my settings and they show me as still subscribing to the list
> and the check-box to receive the messages is tic
ing
> at all. The terms of use used to have a condition for it yearsvago but that
> was removed.
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE device
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original message--
>
> *From: *JJ Marr
>
> *Date: *Thu, Nov 27, 2014 10:25 AM
>
> *
ArbCom isn't illegal. I have no idea how you'd be able to appeal an online
pseudotribunal to an actual court. It baffles the mind, especially since
they provided clear rationale and the WMF is allowed to associate with
whoever they want. I'm fairly sure that the hypothetical case would
probably be
I agree. You have to enter into a hostile environnent, which is very
traumatizing towards women.
On Nov 19, 2014 5:50 PM, "Kerry Raymond" wrote:
>
> When you work in a university, you frequently receive proposals that want
> students (and sometimes academics) to be "free labour" for some worthy (
Personal attacks are not permitted on Wikipedia.
On Nov 18, 2014 2:37 PM, "Romana Busse" wrote:
> Dear Mr. Davies
>
> From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee#Members
> I observe you are an "inactive" Member of this alleged committee. I
> hence suspect that your email is
Our rules exist for a reason. Every one of them was agreed to by a
consensus of editors. And also, just because other publications may not
have an academic standard of truth, doesn't mean we shouldn't have one. The
Stanford prison experiment forced subjects into a dehumanizing,
adversarial, torturo
Nevermind, I just saw it on the GGTF talk before
On Oct 27, 2014 12:05 PM, "JJ Marr" wrote:
> I swear I read this before
> On Oct 27, 2014 11:58 AM, "Sarah Stierch" wrote:
>
>> https://genderdesk.wordpress.com/category/bryce-peake/
>>
>>
>>
I swear I read this before
On Oct 27, 2014 11:58 AM, "Sarah Stierch" wrote:
> https://genderdesk.wordpress.com/category/bryce-peake/
>
>
>
> --
>
> Sarah Stierch
>
> -
>
> Diverse and engaging consulting for your organization.
>
> www.sarahstierch.com
>
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So do you agree or disagree with the conference?
On October 9, 2014 10:20:51 PM EDT, Carol Moore dc
wrote:
>http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/womens-blog/2014/oct/06/men-only-un-conference-gender-equality-if-only-it-was-a-joke?CMP=fb_gu
>
>I can't believe how the author tries to make excus
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