Re: [Gendergap] an example of the "unwanted attention" problem

2011-08-25 Thread Joseph Reagle
On Thursday, August 25, 2011, Daniel and Elizabeth Case wrote: > +1, Sarah (and I say this with even more conviction having met you in > person). Wasn't there some data recently showing that women who become > admins are actually more likely to stick with it? [[ http://www.grouplens.org/system/f

Re: [Gendergap] an example of the "unwanted attention" problem

2011-08-25 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
>I think you'd make a darned fine admin, and would be glad to support >you. We need more than just the technogeeks; indeed, virtually ZERO of >what I do as an admin is technogeekery. +1, Sarah (and I say this with even more conviction having met you in person). Wasn't there some data recently sh

Re: [Gendergap] an example of the "unwanted attention" problem

2011-08-25 Thread Sarah Stierch
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:52 PM, wrote: > First, note per my last message on stalkers, obviously the other editors > on the issue in question were assumed to be or admittedly male. > > I identify with below. Some women are just more diplomatic than we may be; > others have unconsciously gotten

Re: [Gendergap] an example of the "unwanted attention" problem

2011-08-25 Thread Sarah Stierch
On Aug 25, 2011, at 5:51 AM, "Michael J. Lowrey" wrote: > > I think you'd make a darned fine admin, and would be glad to support > you. We need more than just the technogeeks; indeed, virtually ZERO of > what I do as an admin is technogeekery. > We shall see...good to know all skills or "ty

Re: [Gendergap] an example of the "unwanted attention" problem

2011-08-25 Thread Michael J. Lowrey
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > To be honest, I have a terribly low selfesteem when it comes to my work in > Wikimedia - whether it's thinking I should apply for a job or fellowship, or > it's applying for an admin position, or just speaking up in certain topics. > I feel t

Re: [Gendergap] an example of the "unwanted attention" problem

2011-08-24 Thread carolmooredc
First, note per my last message on stalkers, obviously the other editors on the issue in question were assumed to be or admittedly male. I identify with below. Some women are just more diplomatic than we may be; others have unconsciously gotten into the habit of always apologizing for opining

Re: [Gendergap] an example of the "unwanted attention" problem

2011-08-24 Thread Sarah Stierch
(prepares to expose herself a bit, andbreaths) I have absolutely dealt with this behavior. While no one has openly left comments on my talk pages, I have been told a few strange things in my day as a Wikipedian. From "I'll help you because I think you're hot" (paraphrasing - I was actually jud

Re: [Gendergap] an example of the "unwanted attention" problem

2011-08-24 Thread carolmooredc
Hmmm. Looking at the edit summaries of talk pages of a couple of editors who write exclusively on the Israel-Palestine issue, as opposed to me who just gets sucked into a few specific articles over and over, usually BLP-related for individuals or organizations...I seem to have a lot more nasty

[Gendergap] an example of the "unwanted attention" problem

2011-08-24 Thread Ryan Kaldari
This situation from earlier today has already been resolved, so no drama is necessary, but I thought I would post one of the diffs here as an example for discussion: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beria&diff=next&oldid=58432635 I think this is a good example of the "unw