Re: [Gendergap] Resolution:Images of identifiable people

2011-09-13 Thread carolmooredc
Anyway they can italic or bold this Phrase: " in a private place or situation without permission." ?? On 9/12/2011 10:53 AM, Sydney Poore wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Sarah Stierch mailto:sarah.stie...@gmail.com>> wrote: I have no clue how I missed this (and perhaps it's been p

Re: [Gendergap] Resolution:Images of identifiable people

2011-09-13 Thread Arnaud HERVE
On 13/09/2011 03:31, phoebe ayers wrote: > there are > images in debatable circumstances (beach: public or not?) In France there is a jurisprudence regarding photos of monuments and other public places worthy of photography. It states that you are allowed to have non consenting people on your

Re: [Gendergap] Resolution:Images of identifiable people

2011-09-12 Thread Sydney Poore
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:47 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Sydney Poore > wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Sarah Stierch > > wrote: > >> > >> I have no clue how I missed this (and perhaps it's been posted before?) > >> > >> > http://wikimediafoundation.or

Re: [Gendergap] Resolution:Images of identifiable people

2011-09-12 Thread phoebe ayers
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > > >> >> Sydney -- all good ideas, for sure! The resolution was intended as a >> (re)focusing device, as you note; and there is still lots of work to >> be done. One of the areas is making sure that all wikis have a similar >> policy. Would it

Re: [Gendergap] Resolution:Images of identifiable people

2011-09-12 Thread Brandon Harris
On 9/12/11 5:27 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > > I agree, but it can be a punishing process. The "right" place is the talk > pages of policy pages. Patience and experience will defeat aggression and youthful vigor every time. ___ Gendergap mailing

Re: [Gendergap] Resolution:Images of identifiable people

2011-09-12 Thread Fred Bauder
> > > On 9/12/11 3:58 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: >> >> >> I'm not sure if we're ready to move it to meta yet, I do wish we had a >> more private place to develop this. It's a rather sensitive topic for >> folks. Perhaps a google doc or...? > > To be honest, I think that working as publicly as

Re: [Gendergap] Resolution:Images of identifiable people

2011-09-12 Thread Sarah Stierch
> > To be honest, I think that working as publicly as possible is only > good, in the long run, for what needs to happen. Transparency is super > important. > > I suppose it's paranoia that makes me sensitive about making it "so transparent" in an infant stage. But, if we have to place it s

Re: [Gendergap] Resolution:Images of identifiable people

2011-09-12 Thread Brandon Harris
On 9/12/11 3:58 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > > > I'm not sure if we're ready to move it to meta yet, I do wish we had a > more private place to develop this. It's a rather sensitive topic for > folks. Perhaps a google doc or...? To be honest, I think that working as publicly as possible i

Re: [Gendergap] Resolution:Images of identifiable people

2011-09-12 Thread Sarah Stierch
> Sydney -- all good ideas, for sure! The resolution was intended as a > (re)focusing device, as you note; and there is still lots of work to > be done. One of the areas is making sure that all wikis have a similar > policy. Would it help to put together a page on meta to coordinate > this? > > I'

Re: [Gendergap] Resolution:Images of identifiable people

2011-09-12 Thread phoebe ayers
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Sydney Poore wrote: > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Sarah Stierch > wrote: >> >> I have no clue how I missed this (and perhaps it's been posted before?) >> >> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Images_of_identifiable_people >> >> Perhaps we can lend

Re: [Gendergap] Resolution:Images of identifiable people

2011-09-12 Thread Sarah Stierch
They don't appear to be in any questionable or exploitative situations. I would like to think you did ask their verbal permission or informed them that they represent their town on Wikipedia. I have learned to avoid people in images without strict permission after having an anthropologist as a

Re: [Gendergap] Resolution:Images of identifiable people

2011-09-12 Thread Fred Bauder
>> >> > +1. There are hundreds of photographs of women sunbathing, walking down > the > street, etc. It makes me severely uncomfortable that we have people > taking > photographs of people in a voyeuristic manner uploading images to > Commons, > Flickr, whatever. Just because someone (of any gende

Re: [Gendergap] Resolution:Images of identifiable people

2011-09-12 Thread Sarah Stierch
> > IMO, the Commons policy needs to be tweaked to to ensure that the person > giving consent for the image to be taken understands that it will be > uploaded with a free license, and what that means. > > Yes, there doesn't really seem to be an appropriate representation about this. I also think it

Re: [Gendergap] Resolution:Images of identifiable people

2011-09-12 Thread Sydney Poore
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > I have no clue how I missed this (and perhaps it's been posted before?) > > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Images_of_identifiable_people > > Perhaps we can lend a hand to assist in this? > > -Sarah > Yes, the WMF Board passed