Re: feature request: top critical failures

2004-03-08 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Adam R. B. Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I will try to suggest a new build.xml to the avalon team for this >> component. May be it could be built with Maven, but I do not know >> Maven, and I do not know either the interface between gump and >> Maven. > > The way is it (w

Re: [RT] Moving gump forward

2004-03-08 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Daniel F. Savarese " writes: >Another heuristic approach that would work for Java projects at >least, would be to analyze the build failure messages. Usually >they'll reference a class or class member/method that is in >a dependent code base. Develop an evolving

Re: feature request: top critical failures

2004-03-08 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004, Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With "nobody gives a damn" I meant none of the avalon people. They are possibly busy bashing each other. Oops, off topic. > There are two paths here: > > 1) make gump smart enough to work with that's out there The problem w

Re: [RT] Moving gump forward

2004-03-08 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stefano Mazzocchi writes: >Now, I think it's possible (even if computationally expensive) to >understand exactly what commit broke the build and to nag the exact >person and the community and copy all the offended people. ... >for those not familiar with exponenti

Re: [RT] Moving gump forward

2004-03-08 Thread Leo Simons
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: RT is where you throw you thought in the mix and see what happens. It could be the best thing or the most silly idea. this is a good one. Summary of some important thoughts so far. Gump social maintenance costs are still too high on the gumpmaisters and not well distri

cvs commit: gump/src/documentation/content/xdocs/python usage.xml

2004-03-08 Thread bodewig
bodewig 2004/03/08 06:09:29 Modified:src/documentation/content/xdocs index.xml site.xml src/documentation/content/xdocs/python usage.xml Added: src/documentation/content/xdocs mail.xml Log: Add a mailing list page, fix references to jakarta-gump Revision

Re: cvs commit: gump/src/documentation/content/xdocs/python usage.xml

2004-03-08 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 8 Mar 2004, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Add a mailing list page, Note that the (un)subscribe links are broken since forrest tries to obfuscate the email addresses. Is there any way to selectively turn off obfuscation here? Not that I'd mind turning it off completely as it doesn't help any

cvs commit: gump/src/documentation/content/xdocs index.xml

2004-03-08 Thread bodewig
bodewig 2004/03/08 06:27:45 Modified:src/documentation/content/xdocs index.xml Log: Throw in some additional info about Gump installations Revision ChangesPath 1.8 +3 -3 gump/src/documentation/content/xdocs/index.xml Index: index.xml

Re: [RT] Moving gump forward

2004-03-08 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Stefan Good topic, thanks for raising it, it is time. > Gump is an incredible idea and has no equivalent thing anywhere else. > Still, it requires lots of energy from the gumpmaisters to keep it running. > [...] >Gump social maintenance costs are still too high on the gumpmaisters > and not w

cvs commit: gump/python/gump/document forrest.py

2004-03-08 Thread ajack
ajack 2004/03/08 08:04:09 Modified:python/gump/document forrest.py Log: We are showing dependees not dependencies Revision ChangesPath 1.95 +4 -4 gump/python/gump/document/forrest.py Index: forrest.py

[Gump Wiki] Updated: FrontPage

2004-03-08 Thread general
Date: 2004-03-08T08:10:50 Editor: AdamJack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wiki: Gump Wiki Page: FrontPage URL: http://wiki.apache.org/gump/FrontPage no comment Change Log: -- @@ -10,6 +10,10 @@ * GumpInternals

[Gump Wiki] New: HistoricalResultsDatabase

2004-03-08 Thread general
Date: 2004-03-08T08:22:26 Editor: AdamJack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wiki: Gump Wiki Page: HistoricalResultsDatabase URL: http://wiki.apache.org/gump/HistoricalResultsDatabase no comment New Page: = HistoricalResultsDatabase = "'NOTE: WORK IN PROGRESS'" = Requirements = * Needs

Re: [RT] Moving gump forward

2004-03-08 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Leo wrote plenty -- with this just being a snippet: > = The Human Factor = > > What I really like about gump is the principle that we emulate developer > behaviour as much as possible. > Yup, me too, I liked it when you posted to Avalon-Dev also. Maybe we need a logo of so

cvs commit: gump/project jakarta-jmeter.xml

2004-03-08 Thread sebb
sebb2004/03/08 10:39:22 Modified:project jakarta-jmeter.xml Log: Still trying to get rid of zip files from the classpath Revision ChangesPath 1.77 +6 -6 gump/project/jakarta-jmeter.xml Index: jakarta-jmeter.xml ===

cvs commit: gump/project smartfrog.xml

2004-03-08 Thread ajack
ajack 2004/03/08 11:32:23 Modified:project smartfrog.xml Log: Trying a different CVS set-up, for testing. Revision ChangesPath 1.15 +1 -1 gump/project/smartfrog.xml Index: smartfrog.xml ==

Re: [RT] Moving gump forward

2004-03-08 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Adam R. B. Jack" writes: >judging health, we had one gentleman go to the trouble of digging out the >algorythm for FOG from Gumpy CVS, evaluating it, and submitting a JIRA entry >(which I agree with, BTW). That is effort, that is motivation. The loss of >"team prid

cvs commit: gump/profile gump.xml

2004-03-08 Thread leosimons
leosimons2004/03/08 13:57:22 Modified:profile gump.xml Log: Jicarilla has a few dependencies which are not built by gump. Let's build against some infamous jars-in-cvs until we get this sorted out. Revision ChangesPath 1.318 +1 -0 gump/profile/gump.xml Ind

cvs commit: gump/python/storage/results resulter.py

2004-03-08 Thread ajack
ajack 2004/03/08 14:28:09 Modified:python/gump/test gumpset_tests.py python/gump check.py update.py gumprun.py engine.py build.py continuous.py integrate.py python/gump/document forrest.py text.py python/gump/results

Re: [RT] Moving gump forward

2004-03-08 Thread Michael Davey
2) we must make sure that people's nagged uncomfort grows with the amount of dependecies they break! Note that giving them a number doesn't work, you have to build up the entire list!!! you have to make them feel really uncomfortable. The more uncomfortable, the more energy they are going to p

cvs commit: gump/python/gump engine.py

2004-03-08 Thread ajack
ajack 2004/03/08 16:20:51 Modified:python/gump engine.py Log: Display package listings even if no license (indent problem) Revision ChangesPath 1.77 +15 -21gump/python/gump/engine.py Index: engine.py ==

Re: [RT] Moving gump forward

2004-03-08 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Daniel F. Savarese wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stefano Mazzocchi writes: Now, I think it's possible (even if computationally expensive) to understand exactly what commit broke the build and to nag the exact person and the community and copy all the offended people. ... for those not

Re: [RT] Moving gump forward

2004-03-08 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Daniel F. Savarese wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Daniel F. Savarese " writes: Another heuristic approach that would work for Java projects at least, would be to analyze the build failure messages. Usually they'll reference a class or class member/method that is in a dependent code base.

Re: [RT] Moving gump forward

2004-03-08 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Leo Simons wrote: But since we're going by leaps and bounds right now...we need a wiki-style workflow. Ditch CVS and provide me with an "edit this descriptor" page. The task of finding the right descriptor to edit can be several minutes of work. That should change to several seconds. Leo: do yo

Re: [RT] Moving gump forward

2004-03-08 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: Leo wrote plenty -- with this just being a snippet: = The Human Factor = What I really like about gump is the principle that we emulate developer behaviour as much as possible. Yup, me too, I liked it when you posted to Avalon-Dev also. Maybe we n

Re: [RT] Moving gump forward

2004-03-08 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: Stefan Good topic, thanks for raising it, it is time. Me or Stefan? Gump is an incredible idea and has no equivalent thing anywhere else. Still, it requires lots of energy from the gumpmaisters to keep it running. [...] Gump social maintenance costs are still too high o

[Gump Wiki] Updated: GumpPython

2004-03-08 Thread general
Date: 2004-03-08T21:57:21 Editor: 65.96.189.168 <> Wiki: Gump Wiki Page: GumpPython URL: http://wiki.apache.org/gump/GumpPython no comment Change Log: -- @@ -55,7 +55,7 @@ == Command Line Tools: Get

BATCH: All dressed up, with nowhere to go...

2004-03-08 Thread gump
Dear Gumpmeisters, The following 8 nags should have been sent G U M P [EMAIL PROTECTED]: webwork/webwork failed [EMAIL PROTECTED]: freemarker/freemarker failed [EMAIL PROTECTED]: javasrc/javasrc failed [EMAIL PROTECTED]: jetty/j