Re: Release compatibility was Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-11 Thread Sanjay Radia
On May 10, 2011, at 10:49 PM, Aaron T. Myers wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Devaraj Das d...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: . By far the most significant incompatibility that I've seen from a user perspective is that setting hadoop.job.ugi no longer has any effect. Granted, this

Re: Release compatibility was Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-10 Thread Scott Carey
On 5/8/11 11:10 AM, Eric Baldeschwieler eri...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: I'd agree with this too. [same disclaimer as milind, not on PMC] In general one would not expect to see an incompatible change added in a dot release (0.24.1 0.24.2). I'd expect anything like that to require community

Re: Release compatibility was Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-10 Thread Todd Lipcon
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Scott Carey sc...@richrelevance.comwrote: As an observer, this is a very important observation. Sure, the default is that dot releases are bugfix-onl. But exceptions to these rules are sometimes required and often beneficial to the health of the project.

Re: Release compatibility was Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-08 Thread Eric Baldeschwieler
I'd agree with this too. [same disclaimer as milind, not on PMC] In general one would not expect to see an incompatible change added in a dot release (0.24.1 0.24.2). I'd expect anything like that to require community discussion and support. As milind summarized, we seem to have support for

Re: Release compatibility was Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-08 Thread Eli Collins
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Ian Holsman had...@holsman.net wrote: On May 8, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Eric Sammer wrote: do we permit backward incompatible changes between 0.22.0 and 0.22.1 or is this something we've allowed just for the 203 release? good question. do we allow incompatible

Re: Release compatibility was Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-07 Thread Milind Bhandarkar
[I am not on PMC, but seeing that PMC may be busy with other issues, I will try to answer your questions.] Eric, I think the thread http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/201101.mbox/%3C18C 5c999-4680-4684-bc55-a430c40fd...@yahoo-inc.com%3E will answer your questions. Here is

Re: Release compatibility was Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-07 Thread Ian Holsman
On May 8, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Eric Sammer wrote: do we permit backward incompatible changes between 0.22.0 and 0.22.1 or is this something we've allowed just for the 203 release? good question. do we allow incompatible (smallish) features to be added to a 20.x release. hoping that they will

Re: Release compatibility was Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-07 Thread Milind Bhandarkar
[Mentioning again: I am not on the PMC, and this email contains non-binding opinions based on my reading the general@hadoop.apache.org emails.] It is my understanding that, from the beginning, the 0.20+security was always treated as an exception to the normal (I.e. Pre-0.20) release process.