Re: Volunteer Documentation

2005-03-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 17 mars 05, à 04:47, Vikas Singhal a écrit : ...I am willing to work on projects that either have no documentation or minimal documentation. Can anyone help me in identifying such projects?.. A documentation "refactoring" effort is currently going on in the Cocoon project, see http://wiki.apa

Re: Volunteer Documentation

2005-03-16 Thread J Aaron Farr
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:17:25 +0530, Vikas Singhal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi List, > > I am a technical writer with an experience of more than three years. I want > to contribute to the foundation in terms of documentation. > > I am willing to work on projects that either have no documentati

[STATUS] (incubator) Wed Mar 16 23:47:32 2005

2005-03-16 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indented-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2005-01-20 01:12:13 -0500 (Thu, 20 Jan 2005) $] Web site: http://Incubator.Apache.Org/ Wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ [note: the Web site is the 'official' documentation; the wiki

RE: Volunteer Documentation

2005-03-16 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:47 PM, Vikas Singhal wrote: > Hi List, > > I am a technical writer with an experience of more than three years. > I want to contribute to the foundation in terms of documentation. > > I am willing to work on projects that either have no documentation or > minimal

RE: Ruby Lucene port - directly under Lucene TLP?

2005-03-16 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:05 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > If an existing TLP, such as Lucene, wants to develop a port, such > > as a Ruby port of the Lucene library, can the Lucene PMC invite > > that port and its developers under its wings directly > > > this port is not an existing exter

RE: Ruby Lucene port - directly under Lucene TLP?

2005-03-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> If an existing TLP, such as Lucene, wants to develop a port, such as a > Ruby port of the Lucene library, can the Lucene PMC invite that port > and its developers under its wings directly > this port is not an existing external project, but a brand new port > that would be developed under Lucene

Volunteer Documentation

2005-03-16 Thread Vikas Singhal
Hi List, I am a technical writer with an experience of more than three years. I want to contribute to the foundation in terms of documentation. I am willing to work on projects that either have no documentation or minimal documentation. Can anyone help me in identifying such projects? Thanks, -V

Ruby Lucene port - directly under Lucene TLP?

2005-03-16 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Hello, If an existing TLP, such as Lucene, wants to develop a port, such as a Ruby port of the Lucene library, can the Lucene PMC invite that port and its developers under its wings directly, or does the port need to go through the Incubator? Note that this port is not an existing external projec

Re: Incubator representative?

2005-03-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Mar 16, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Ceki Gülcü wrote: My sense of these discussions is that many old Apache members have argued about these question so many times that there is not much interest to rehash the issues all over again. Not really... It's always a good idea, IMO, to occasionally re-d

Re: What is a healthy community?

2005-03-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Mar 16, 2005, at 12:44 PM, Ceki Gülcü wrote: At 09:26 PM 3/15/2005, Jim Jagielski wrote: On the notion of community: The ASF considers any project with less then 3 active committers as not having a community. The consensus on the number 3 can be described as very solid, if not frozen. My implic

Re: Incubator representative?

2005-03-16 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Ceki [iso-8859-1] Gülcü wrote: How can a single bad project destroy most of what the foundation has accomplished? By having the solitary developer incorporate code they don't have the rights to, and no one around looking over their shoulder to peer review, leading to a lawsui

Re: Incubator representative?

2005-03-16 Thread Erik Abele
On 16.03.2005, at 18:39, Ceki Gülcü wrote: ... By insisting heavily on community building and rigid rules like 3+ committers, the ASF may be undermining the very thing it is trying to cultivate. Developers are drawn to the ASF in order to develop software in a friendly environment and

Re: Incubator representative?

2005-03-16 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 06:51 PM 3/16/2005, Roy T.Fielding wrote: Ceki, the incubator was created because some well-meaning people at Apache were making themselves busy helping a thousand projects bloom without noticing that some were weeds. It only requires one bad project to destroy most of what the foundation has a

Re: Incubator representative?

2005-03-16 Thread Roy T . Fielding
Ceki, the incubator was created because some well-meaning people at Apache were making themselves busy helping a thousand projects bloom without noticing that some were weeds. It only requires one bad project to destroy most of what the foundation has accomplished. The incubator weeds out the sing

Re: What is a healthy community?

2005-03-16 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 09:26 PM 3/15/2005, Jim Jagielski wrote: On the notion of community: The ASF considers any project with less then 3 active committers as not having a community. The consensus on the number 3 can be described as very solid, if not frozen. My implicit suggestion to consider 2 as an alternative was

Incubator representative?

2005-03-16 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Although many ASF members are represented in the incubator, it is not representative of the ASF because it is more coercive than the rest of the foundation. Some of the coercion is unavoidable, e.g. IP issues, some of it mildly irritating, e.g. forrest, and then there is the community requi

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-16 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Ooops. I fell into the trap of making a general observation in a message with a log4net subject line. My bad. I'll follow up with another message with a new subject line. At 04:29 PM 3/16/2005, you wrote: > Apache is indeed an interesting place, although the incubator is not > necessarily repres

Re: Prepping for Derby graduation vote

2005-03-16 Thread Jeremy Boynes
As that one committer I am also comfortable discussing this. The user community is growing continuously and is very diverse. The developer community, while not as diverse as we would like, has demonstrated that it is following its charter (found at http://incubator.apache.org/derby/ ), is operat

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Apache is indeed an interesting place, although the incubator is not > necessarily representative of the whole. What happens in the Incubator informs and seeds the next generation of ASF communities. This suggests to me that every active ASF Member, Officer and Director should be involved in th

Re: [VOTE] Graduate iBATIS and recommend as TLP

2005-03-16 Thread Larry Meadors
Even though my vote is not binding, I think the project is ready to graduate. +1 Larry On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:51:26 -0500, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The iBATIS team has worked through the incubation checklist in a open and > collaborative fashion. The community remains strong, an

Re: Prepping for Derby graduation vote

2005-03-16 Thread Brian McCallister
DB PMC Hat On: I'm quite comfortable discussing this. One committer has been added while in incubation, and there are a couple more people under consideration. The user and developer community has grown, even if the committer distribution is worrisome. Very much worth talking about, though! -Br

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-16 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Apache is indeed an interesting place, although the incubator is not necessarily representative of the whole. At 03:43 PM 3/16/2005, Nicko Cadell wrote: It has been an interesting and informative experience. Thanks for all your efforts. Nicko -- Ceki Gülcü The complete log4j manual: http://www.

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-16 Thread Nicko Cadell
It has been an interesting and informative experience. Thanks for all your efforts. Nicko > -Original Message- > From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 March 2005 10:14 > To: general@logging.apache.org > Cc: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: log4net 1.2.9 beta relea

[VOTE] Graduate iBATIS and recommend as TLP

2005-03-16 Thread Ted Husted
The iBATIS team has worked through the incubation checklist in a open and collaborative fashion. The community remains strong, and we feel ready to apply for graduation. With the Incubator PMC's approval, we would apply to the board for acceptance as a top-level project. Project checklist: htt

log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-16 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Hello, After IP related question were clarified [1], I am happy to report that the Incubator PMC has approved the release of log4net 1.2.9 beta. [1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11096728973&r=1&w=2 -- Ceki Gülcü The complete log4j manual: http://www.qos.ch/log4j/ ---