On 14 Feb 2006, at 21:38, Matthieu Riou wrote:
Also, I don't at all agree with your comparison of a BPEL Engine to
Geronimo. I would compare it to the transaction manager within
Geronimo. It's a discrete component, and we're not going to take the
best of 20 different projects to make a
I'm sorry to report, as I was preparing projects/ohana.xml, that I've come
across
http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/Instruments/Elixir/Ohana/
in a simple search of ohana program on google :-/
Brings up another question, why are we still pointing our template.xml for
the project to look at
On 2/9/06, Roy T. Fielding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 9, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
dev list or ppmc list? Only PMC members' votes are binding for
full TLPs; I suggest having the vote on the dev list as mentioned
but only the PPMC members' votes being binding.
it
On 15 Feb 2006, at 14:48, Lance Waterman wrote:
In the spirit of nailing down criteria, I would agree with;
... avoid the BPEL
engine having to write a container, a deployment model and a suite of
'binding components' to different SOAP stacks, WS-* policies and
transports - together with all
Dims Sanjiva
Given your arguments that the Sybase BPEL donation should be in a new
podling rather than part of ServiceMix - I wonder if you'd like to
join us in the ODE proposal then we can have a united Apache
community with folks from Agila, Geronimo, ServiceMix, WS involved
to
On 2/14/06, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This whole how do we do URLs for an xdocs website stuff is interesting. We
were used to the forrest way of doing things (aka being really intelligent
about it), and now we have the anakia way of doing things (aka, at least
currently, ignoring the
On 2/15/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that's true but there are reasons why copying the email to the PMC is good
practice:
1 the PMC may contain people (such as officers and members) who are not on
the dev lists.
2 the PMC list should provide a permenant record of the
On 2/15/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
project name, I think we shouldn't have any issues. Is Apache Ohana enough
of a multiword mark, though?
I believe so. -- justin
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On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 15:56 +, James Strachan wrote:
Dims Sanjiva
Given your arguments that the Sybase BPEL donation should be in a new
podling rather than part of ServiceMix - I wonder if you'd like to
join us in the ODE proposal then we can have a united Apache
community with
James,
Thanks for taking the first step. Yes, please add me in as a mentor.
Here's some feedback first about the proposal before we take the next
step.
- AFAIK, Geronimo PMC has not voted on this proposal. So can we please
get Incubator PMC to sponsor this?
- Can we please put out a call to
http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/NameItEchoConflict
:)
We should probably check with that group that they discarded that choice.
Stein, Neil S wrote:
If Ohana proves to have enough negative drivers,
The name can go to Apache Lokahi
Which translates to harmony and unity.
I'm sorry, but I'll have to withdraw my offer to help mentoring this
project.
I need to focus my energy elsewhere and do not wish to spend time on
incubator in its current form - please note that it has nothing to do
with TMCg2.
vh
Mads Toftum
--
`Darn it, who spiked my coffee with water?!' -
hi -- I guess I am a little confused. It is very possible that any name can
fall into an area that may conflict. Are the guidelines or a branding process
for new projects?
-Original Message-
From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 2/15/2006 3:45 PM
To:
Great, thanks for the details.
-neil
-Original Message-
From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 2/15/2006 5:57 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2
The current guidelines are simply to avoid clashes, adn that guideline
Sanjiva,
- Given the, um, strong feelings expressed by so many people about this
project, how about if we get the Incubator PMC to sponsor this poddling?
Agreed. That is what I said to the Geronimo PMC, as well. The Incubator
PMC will sponsor the project.
--- Noel
It's all good news for the community at large!
On 2/15/06, Ismael Ghalimi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good afternoon,
My name is Ismael Ghalimi, and I am the CEO of Intalio. Our company would
be
interested in participating to the Ode project through a donation of the
PXE
BPEL 2.0 engine and
On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Sanjiva,
- Given the, um, strong feelings expressed by so many people about
this
project, how about if we get the Incubator PMC to sponsor this
poddling?
Agreed. That is what I said to the Geronimo PMC, as well. The
Incubator
PMC
On Feb 14, 2006, at 7:35 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
David,
The mentors should have karma to setup the status file. At least
one of
them has karma to the SVN access control lists. Do we have all of
the CLAs
and a Software Grant?
Noel or anyone,
Ismael needs to do a Software Grant (i
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On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 03:22:23PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Sanjiva,
- Given the, um, strong feelings expressed by so many people about
this project, how about if we get the Incubator
I guess I was just reacting to the complete dismissal by Noel. In
the middle of a vote on the Geronimo PMC, we get a message that
effectively the Incubator has stepped in and has take over this
proposal. Now, stop and wait before responding to that statement and
let me explain. The
Bill,
we do seem to be coming together in prinicipal but it might be best to
achieve our fresh start in the practical context of Ode given the
support exhibited by other folks on the submission.
Am I correct that you are willing to see a new project, Ode, formed that
will start with code
Noel, there are really two aspects to what is being discussed here as I
observe it - willingness to work together and the Apache process. It seems
everybody has exhibited a willingness to work together although from their
own particular vantage point of the same elephant :-).
It's all rather
Ismael needs to do a Software Grant (i think that's the doc) on
behalf of Intalio for OpenEJB.
See: http://www.apache.org/licenses/#grants
Ismael should also submit a CCLA (see the same page) if one will be
necessary for Intalio employees to satisfy their obligations under the terms
of their
Bill,
It seems everybody has exhibited a willingness to work together
I agree. And since we've just gotten off the phone, I'll pass along that
you have expressed not only a willingness, but a strong preference that both
your group and Intalio's join together in a single community with both
Dain,
Since you brought this public, I'll post my response along with you
original email. I hope you don't mind...
I don't, but you might have also included my reply. :-)
There is no need for the Incubator PMC to sponsor. The Geronimo
PMC will sponsor the project.
As I had replied to
Noel,
Thanks. We will review and provide signed documents ASAP.
-Ismael
On 2/15/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ismael needs to do a Software Grant (i think that's the doc) on
behalf of Intalio for OpenEJB.
See: http://www.apache.org/licenses/#grants
Ismael should also
Makes since. Thanks for spending the time to explain this to me.
This really helps.
Thanks,
-dain
On Feb 15, 2006, at 6:56 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Dain,
Since you brought this public, I'll post my response along with you
original email. I hope you don't mind...
I don't, but you
James Strachan wrote:
can you please respond to one of the mails asking for whether
you are ready to remove your -1 so we can release ActiveMQ
I had.
Why are you trying to merge the ODE proposal into the Agila proposal
- which was quite different and based around BPM not BPEL? (FWIW
APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indented-text-*-
Last modified at [$Date: 2006-02-05 04:40:19 -0500 (Sun, 05 Feb 2006) $]
Web site: http://Incubator.Apache.Org/
Wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/
[note: the Web site is the 'official' documentation; the
Stein, Neil S wrote:
If Ohana proves to have enough negative drivers,
The name can go to Apache Lokahi
Which translates to harmony and unity.
http://rosasay.typepad.com/mwacalendar/2005/03/lkahi.html
Other than the one link which was not apparently adopted, and several
community/pen pal
Done. Feel free to amend.
Regards,
Alan
Davanum Srinivas wrote, On 2/15/2006 2:15 PM:
Welcome aboard
Alan, James,
Could you please update the wiki proposal?
thanks,
dims
On 2/15/06, Ismael Ghalimi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good afternoon,
My name is Ismael Ghalimi, and I am the CEO
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