[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-23) OpenEJB status page

2006-07-11 Thread David Blevins (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-23?page=comments#action_12420223 ] David Blevins commented on INCUBATOR-23: thanks -- we'll have to get someone with sufficient privileges to close it. OpenEJB status page ---

[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-24) Setup OpenEJB mailing lists

2006-07-11 Thread David Blevins (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-24?page=comments#action_12420224 ] David Blevins commented on INCUBATOR-24: thanks -- we'll have to get someone with sufficient privileges to close it. Setup OpenEJB mailing lists

Re: DOAP files for Podling

2006-07-11 Thread Jason van Zyl
Hi, If anyone who uses Maven is interested I can whip off a plugin to create a DOAP file from a POM so that they don't have to maintain both files. For any elements missing in the POM that might be required (don't know, haven't looked) the information can be placed in standard properties

Re: DOAP files for Podling

2006-07-11 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On 7/11/06, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone who uses Maven is interested I can whip off a plugin to create a DOAP file from a POM so that they don't have to maintain both files. That would be nice! BR, Jukka Zitting -- Yukatan - http://yukatan.fi/ - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: DOAP files for Podling

2006-07-11 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/11/06, Jukka Zitting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On 7/11/06, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone who uses Maven is interested I can whip off a plugin to create a DOAP file from a POM so that they don't have to maintain both files. That would be nice! +1 - robert

Acceptance Vote Duration? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-11 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/10/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/10/06, Ted Leung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip In keeping with Apache practice, I'd like to allow 72 hours or so for the vote to close, so please vote by 11:59PST on Thursday July 13th. (this duration seems just a little

Re: [documentation][DRAFT] Proposal Guide

2006-07-11 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/5/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what i came to pull together the material for the proposal template, i found that it didn't really fit into the annotation template format originally conceived. so, here is a first draft of a guide for proposals containing a template.

Re: Acceptance Vote Duration? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-11 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 12:50 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote: is 72 hours the right length for an acceptance vote? I'd prefer a bit more time .. like the time for graduation etc. - these are BIG decisions and unlike code decisions hard to revert. As such I think we should not rush things.

Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator

2006-07-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
+1 (And I'll note now that I'm interested in participating, although can't commit the time to be a mentor right now.) Ted Leung wrote: It seems like the discussion on Heraldry has died down, so I'd like to call for a VOTE on accepting Heraldry into the incubator. In keeping with Apache

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-07-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
David N. Welton wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: ... an idea and community ... i was wondering whether we might widen the general incubator list to include ideas for new projects provided that they are prefixed by [idea] in the subject so that anyone who's not interested can ignore.

Re: Extensible Ajax Platform (XAP) Project Update

2006-07-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
This thread may be dead/resolved, in which case just ignore me. Cliff Schmidt wrote: On 6/23/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of e-mail as the primary means for communication is part of ASF policy and philosophy, and we can certainly learn lessons from projects that have

Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator

2006-07-11 Thread Leo Simons
+1 (and what he said applies to me too) Leo On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 07:41:20AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: +1 (And I'll note now that I'm interested in participating, although can't commit the time to be a mentor right now.) Ted Leung wrote: It seems like the discussion on

Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator

2006-07-11 Thread Ben Laurie
On 7/10/06, Ted Leung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems like the discussion on Heraldry has died down, so I'd like to call for a VOTE on accepting Heraldry into the incubator. In keeping with Apache practice, I'd like to allow 72 hours or so for the vote to close, so please vote by 11:59PST on

[VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator

2006-07-11 Thread Ted Leung
It seems like the discussion on Heraldry has died down, so I'd like to call for a VOTE on accepting Heraldry into the incubator. In keeping with Apache practice, I'd like to allow 72 hours or so for the vote to close, so please vote by 11:59PST on Thursday July 13th. The current proposal

Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator

2006-07-11 Thread Ben Laurie
On 7/10/06, Ted Leung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It seems like the discussion on Heraldry has died down, so I'd like to call for a VOTE on accepting Heraldry into the incubator. In keeping with Apache practice, I'd like to allow 72 hours or so for

RE: Acceptance Vote Duration? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-11 Thread Noel J. Bergman
robert burrell donkin wrote: is 72 hours the right length for an acceptance vote? I wouldn't do it over a week, especially a long weekend. And if very few PMC members have voted, I might post a reminder to vote rather than close a vote with a minimum of voters. --- Noel

RE: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator

2006-07-11 Thread Noel J. Bergman
+1 --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: DOAP files for Podling

2006-07-11 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
cool! On 7/11/06, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, If anyone who uses Maven is interested I can whip off a plugin to create a DOAP file from a POM so that they don't have to maintain both files. For any elements missing in the POM that might be required (don't know, haven't looked)

Re: Acceptance Vote Duration? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-11 Thread Samisa Abeysinghe
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 12:50 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote: is 72 hours the right length for an acceptance vote? I'd prefer a bit more time .. like the time for graduation etc. - these are BIG decisions and unlike code decisions hard to revert. As such

Re: Acceptance Vote Duration? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-11 Thread Ted Leung
On Jul 11, 2006, at 7:02 AM, Leo Simons wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 12:50:44PM +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 7/10/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/10/06, Ted Leung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip In keeping with Apache practice, I'd like to allow 72 hours

Re: Acceptance Vote Duration? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-11 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 11, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Ted Leung wrote: In this case, we had several weeks of discussion on Heraldry, including some F2F conversations at ApacheCon EU, so 72 hours doesn't seem like a big deal to me. If people want to extend the voting period, I've no problem with that. I guess the

RE: Acceptance Vote Duration? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-11 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ted Leung wrote: In this case, we had several weeks of discussion on Heraldry, including some F2F conversations at ApacheCon EU, so 72 hours doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Nor me. I guess the bigger question is whether we ought to change the 72 hour guideline for the foundation as a

Re: Extensible Ajax Platform (XAP) Project Update

2006-07-11 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On 7/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread may be dead/resolved, in which case just ignore me. It was only mostly-dead...but you've raised some good points that I agree with. Cliff Schmidt wrote: On 6/23/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of e-mail

Re: Extensible Ajax Platform (XAP) Project Update

2006-07-11 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Any off-list communication is a potential problem, not just IRC. sure. but IRC is much more a problem than IM. IM *mostly* is peer-peer chat. IRC a *group* is involved. btw. 404 for: http://incubator.apache.org/howtoparticipate.html -jean

Re: Acceptance Vote Duration? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-11 Thread Ted Leung
On Jul 11, 2006, at 10:57 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I guess the bigger question is whether we ought to change the 72 hour guideline for the foundation as a whole, or make incuabator votes a clearly noted exception. We should use our judgment to ensure a collaborative environment without

RE: Acceptance Vote Duration? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-11 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ted Leung wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: We should use our judgment to ensure a collaborative environment without undue overhead. But it would be unfair, for example, to deliberately hold a vote when someone whom you know is opposed is going to be off-line. I was just asking the

Re: Extensible Ajax Platform (XAP) Project Update

2006-07-11 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Any off-list communication is a potential problem, not just IRC. sure. but IRC is much more a problem than IM. IM *mostly* is peer-peer chat. IRC a *group* is involved. Given this paragraph in the committers guide [1]: Everything -- but everything-- inside the

Re: Extensible Ajax Platform (XAP) Project Update

2006-07-11 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Jean- Given this paragraph in the committers guide [1]: Everything -- but everything-- inside the Apache world occurs or is reflected in email. As some people say, 'If it isn't in my email, it didn't happen.' Would adding this sentence to the end help? Decisions only get made on Apache

Re: Extensible Ajax Platform (XAP) Project Update

2006-07-11 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Jean- Given this paragraph in the committers guide [1]: Everything -- but everything-- inside the Apache world occurs or is reflected in email. As some people say, 'If it isn't in my email, it didn't happen.' Would adding this sentence to the end help?

Re: [doc] IRC guidelines (was Re: Extensible Ajax Platform (XAP) Project Update)

2006-07-11 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On 7/11/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: below) and other recent threads, here's what I would propose also be doc'd: IRC can be used by a podling to bring new people up to speed (e.g. QA between available committers and interested users/contributors), although such sessions

Re: [doc] IRC guidelines (was Re: Extensible Ajax Platform (XAP) Project Update)

2006-07-11 Thread Brian McCallister
On Jul 11, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Cliff Schmidt wrote: IRC can be used by a podling to bring new people up to speed (e.g. QA between available committers and interested users/contributors), although such sessions should be archived and made available to those not able to attend. However, using

Re: [doc] IRC guidelines (was Re: Extensible Ajax Platform (XAP) Project Update)

2006-07-11 Thread David Blevins
On Jul 11, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Cliff Schmidt wrote: IRC can be used by a podling to bring new people up to speed (e.g. QA between available committers and interested users/contributors), although such sessions should be archived and made available to those not able to attend. However, using IRC

Re: [doc] IRC guidelines (was Re: Extensible Ajax Platform (XAP) Project Update)

2006-07-11 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 7/11/06, Brian McCallister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 11, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Cliff Schmidt wrote: IRC can be used by a podling to bring new people up to speed (e.g. QA between available committers and interested users/contributors), although such sessions should be archived and made

Re: [doc] IRC guidelines (was Re: Extensible Ajax Platform (XAP) Project Update)

2006-07-11 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/11/06, Garrett Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Board meetings are another case entirely, but having never listened in on one, I don't know how practical they'd be to hold via other means. I suspect it would be difficult though. Any one can dial in to the Board meetings. It's honestly not