Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Tuscany Java DAS beta2 (1.0-incubating-beta2)

2007-09-28 Thread ant elder
+1 from me. I can't see any issues that haven't already been mentioned here or over on tuscany-dev. ...ant On 9/27/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Apache Tuscany project request IPMC permission to release the Java DAS beta2 (1.0-incubating-beta2). The vote thread is here

Re: How strict should podling release reviews be?

2007-09-28 Thread ant elder
On 9/28/07, Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 28 September 2007 05:12, Yoav Shapira wrote: Personally, that's my take on it, and what I've done historically. I agree with Yoav, but would like to add that I personally have different standards for different podlings, i.e. -

Re: How strict should podling release reviews be?

2007-09-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 28 September 2007 16:16, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: IMHO the incubator PMC doesn't care much about technical issues in podling releases, at least for early releases. This is an important observation. The reviewers has no opportunity to figure out if the release at all work. That is

Re: How strict should podling release reviews be?

2007-09-28 Thread ant elder
On 9/28/07, Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 28 September 2007 16:16, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: IMHO the incubator PMC doesn't care much about technical issues in podling releases, at least for early releases. This is an important observation. The reviewers has no

Re: How strict should podling release reviews be?

2007-09-28 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 28, 2007, at 4:16 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On 9/27/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...So I'm wondering if as podling releases are not endorsed by the ASF and if the incubating and the disclaimer text is everywhere as required then could we be a little more lenient?

Re: How strict should podling release reviews be?

2007-09-28 Thread Guillaume Nodet
On 9/28/07, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What we care about is that podlings get the legal stuff right, and letting releases out without this being ok is not an option, due to potential legal risks. I thought projects in incubator were not endorsed by the ASF, hence the ASF

Re: How strict should podling release reviews be?

2007-09-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 28 September 2007 15:40, ant elder wrote: Anyway, so i'm thinking more of a benevolent educator than traffic warden style reviewer role. *My* worry is that quality will drop if there is no expectations. So we could turn this around and say; What are the expectations from the I PMC

Jakarta [was: Effects on corporate backing withdrawals [was: Incubator Proposal: Pig]]

2007-09-28 Thread Roland Weber
Niall Pemberton wrote: Theres more of an issue IMO with projects that don't come thru the incubator, since they don't have to meet the Incubator's stringent graduation requirement. As an example - Tapestry was pushed out to a TLP from Jakarta,[...] Jakarta is disintegrating. All big projects

Re: Jakarta [was: Effects on corporate backing withdrawals [was: Incubator Proposal: Pig]]

2007-09-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Saturday 29 September 2007 00:03, Roland Weber wrote: Staying at Jakarta will buy some time, but won't last forever. If you have ideas on what to do with these small but active projects, please come over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and share your thoughts. Can't Jakarta just be revitalized as a

Re: How strict should podling release reviews be?

2007-09-28 Thread ant elder
On 9/28/07, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/28/07, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What we care about is that podlings get the legal stuff right, and letting releases out without this being ok is not an option, due to potential legal risks. I thought projects

Re: How strict should podling release reviews be?

2007-09-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 28 September 2007 17:12, Guillaume Nodet wrote: On 9/28/07, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What we care about is that podlings get the legal stuff right, and letting releases out without this being ok is not an option, due to potential legal risks. I thought