Re: [DISCUSS] Community diversity: current concerns and suggestions for improvement

2007-12-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Nov 18, 2007 12:46 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Here's an attempt to summarize our recent discussions, and suggest some actions. Comments are welcome, of course Just want to note that I have not forgotten about these discussions, just didn't have time yet to

Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread ant elder
On Dec 17, 2007 5:44 PM, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevan Miller wrote: On Dec 17, 2007, at 4:09 AM, Thilo Goetz wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Marshall Schor wrote: We've put the LICENSE, NOTICES, and DISCLAIMERs into the top directory of the source (and binary)

Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Paul Fremantle
Kevan Your interpretation works if your subversion repository is not a distribution. IMO, it is and should contain appropriate license/ notice/disclaimer. --kevan Kevan The SVN tag is only a distribution if it is published as that. The fact that SVN is available to anyone via HTTP does

Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...There clearly is not yet consensus among the IPMC on this though or if that tag MUST have LICENSE and NOTICE files in the the top-level directory ...So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be making up policy

Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be making up policy during a release vote +1, that's even part of the policy! It is just *so* annoying that this

freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Dec 16, 2007, at 5:24 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Marshall Schor wrote: We've put the LICENSE, NOTICES, and DISCLAIMERs into the top directory of the source (and binary) distribution(s), but didn't realize this also needs to be in the top level of the SVN tag, because we didn't know

Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Michael Baessler
Leo Simons wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be making up policy during a release vote +1, that's even part of the policy! It is just *so*

Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Martijn Dashorst
For the record, +1 for releasing from me. Martijn On Dec 18, 2007 1:16 PM, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be

Re: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-18 Thread Luciano Resende
I guess, from the Incubator release management guide, the requirement is that the release can be built from a tag, in a later point in time... All releases should be built from a tag. It is occasionally necessary to rebuild releases many years later. Tagging is cheap and easy when using

Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Dec 18, 2007 3:11 PM, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the record, +1 for releasing from me. +0 from me for now: from discussions here I feel like everything's fine, but lack the time to check the release files myself ATM. -Bertrand

Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread sebb
On 18/12/2007, Michael Baessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leo Simons wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be making up policy during a release

Re: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Dec 18, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: I guess, from the Incubator release management guide, the requirement is that the release can be built from a tag, in a later point in time... While that's a good (and standard) practice, it's not quite a requirement. There can be good

Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Thilo Goetz
sebb wrote: On 18/12/2007, Michael Baessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leo Simons wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be making up policy during a

Re: freedom to do sane release management

2007-12-18 Thread Thilo Goetz
Luciano Resende wrote: I guess, from the Incubator release management guide, the requirement is that the release can be built from a tag, in a later point in time... All releases should be built from a tag. It is occasionally necessary to rebuild releases many years later. Tagging is cheap

Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread sebb
On 18/12/2007, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sebb wrote: On 18/12/2007, Michael Baessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leo Simons wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...So it is a new requirement

RE: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Leo, I disagree. I agree with the statement that All releases should be built from a tag. Worst case, you should make the tag by copying from the right version. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Dec 18, 2007 2:55 PM, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: I guess, from the Incubator release management guide, the requirement is that the release can be built from a tag, in a later point in time... While that's a good (and

Re: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-18 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I disagree. I agree with the statement that All releases should be built from a tag. Worst case, you should make the tag by copying from the right version. The bottom line of release management in the ASF. All artifacts should be generated from the tagged SVN So

Re: [DISCUSSION] BlueSky Proposal

2007-12-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Dec 19, 2007 12:43 AM, Bill Stoddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I've updated the BlueSky project proposal. Ting Peng and Incubator PMC, please review/update as needed and report back any concerns I have two concerns about http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BlueSky: ...weekly