Re: [Discussion] Graduation of Pivot Podling

2009-11-16 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Todd Volkert tvolk...@gmail.com wrote: In addition, it has been almost four months since our last attempt at graduation, and we believe that the issues brought up during the previous graduation vote [1] [2] have been resolved. Agreed. Quoting my comment to

Re: [Discussion] Graduation of Pivot Podling

2009-11-16 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Quoting my comment to the last Pivot report [1]: I've been watching Pivot since the first graduation vote attempt, and can confirm the positive development since then. +1 to a new graduation proposal as soon

Re: Incubator Releases: mandatory or optional? Purpose?

2009-11-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 13, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Greg Stein wrote: IIRC, Martijn has offered a proper legal review in the place of a release. This sounded pretty reasonable to me. I would agree to that. Yup. I've already stated that I have no problems with running RAT and working

Re: Incubator Releases: mandatory or optional? Purpose?

2009-11-16 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Nov 13, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Ironically, when the Incubator first formed, podlings could NOT do a release and many yelled about it. Yes, the originally reason behind it, iirc, was so podlings

Re: Incubator Releases: mandatory or optional? Purpose?

2009-11-16 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
the draconian release process. ;-) Actually it is quite true. Last time I released OpenWebBeans, it took nearly 1 month :) Besides, it is also very helpful to understand Apache way release procedures. --Gurkan 2009/11/16 Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com Hi, On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:11

Re: JavaHL package namespace / migration / compatability

2009-11-16 Thread Greg Stein
Dunno. Lots of java packages have had to deal with the issue as they migrate to the ASF. I'm sure that gene...@incubator (cc'd) has some prior knowledge and precedent. Cheers, -g On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:47, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net wrote: What does the migration mean for

Incubator Board Report November 2009

2009-11-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
The Incubator is running smoothly, with nothing requiring the Board's attention at this time. The big news is no longer news: Subversion has been accepted into the Incubator. On other news, Pivot looks set to graduate, and is actively preparing to do so. WSRP4J appears to have finally cleared

Re: svn status update (was: svn commit: r880911 [1/13] - in /subversion/trunk: ./ build/ build/generator/ build/win32/ notes/obliterate/ packages/python-windows/ packages/windows-WiX/BuildSubversion

2009-11-16 Thread Hyrum K. Wright
On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote: fyi, Subversion has been migrated into the ASF repository. About 30+ committers have access and are beginning work within the ASF repo. Below, you can see the big change to switch the licensing over to the ASF (we were already on ALv2, so this

Re: [Discussion] Graduation of Pivot Podling

2009-11-16 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, I've checked in on Pivot now and again and reviewing recent activities, I think its definitely ready to leave the nest! I will be happy to vote +1 when it comes to a vote. cheers, Leo On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:10 AM, Todd Volkert tvolk...@gmail.com wrote: The feeling among the

Re: Review-Then-Commit

2009-11-16 Thread Doug Cutting
Niclas Hedhman wrote: I am curious (never worked in a RTC environment); Does that mean that people turn down offers of commit rights? Does it mean that less commit rights are offered? Does it mean that commit rights are offered to those that do reviews even if they don't write much code? No

Where to add PPMC member additions?

2009-11-16 Thread Leif Hedstrom
Hi, reading http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html, it says (towards the end) to add new PPMC members to this SVN file: https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/incubator-info.txt but, I get a 404 not found on that URL. Where do I add new PPMC members for our

Re: [Discussion] Graduation of Pivot Podling

2009-11-16 Thread Ralph Goers
I have been following Pivot's dev list since August. My only concern involves an incident where I posted a suggestion and was slapped down very hard by one of the committers. If this had been my first exposure to the ASF I never would have come back. That being said, I quickly got an offline

Re: JavaHL package namespace / migration / compatability

2009-11-16 Thread Ralph Goers
In general, Java code at Apache should reside under a package of org.apache. In this case, I would expect org.apache.subversion.javahl. Of course, this will create compatibility problems. I don't know if it is completely possible to create a separate jar containing the necessary glue code to

Re: svn status update (was: svn commit: r880911 [1/13] - in /subversion/trunk: ./ build/ build/generator/ build/win32/ notes/obliterate/ packages/python-windows/ packages/windows-WiX/BuildSubversion

2009-11-16 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: fyi, Subversion has been migrated into the ASF repository. About 30+ committers have access and are beginning work within the ASF repo. Below, you can see the big change to switch the licensing over to the ASF (we were already

[Reminder] use proper mirror system for downloads

2009-11-16 Thread David Crossley
The OpenWebBeans Status page links directly to apache.org /dist Please see the ASF mirror guidelines, which emphatically say to use the mirrors. So either set up your own mirrors script (preferred because then you can show Incubator notice), or use the default one, e.g.

Re: JavaHL package namespace / migration / compatability

2009-11-16 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: In general, Java code at Apache should reside under a package of org.apache. Yes, I can only recall that the only exceptions has been where there are some formal specification backing the project, JSRs, the OSGi spec

Re: JavaHL package namespace / migration / compatability

2009-11-16 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: In general, Java code at Apache should reside under a package of org.apache. Yes, I can only recall that the only exceptions has been

Re: JavaHL package namespace / migration / compatability

2009-11-16 Thread Craig L Russell
On Nov 16, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: In general, Java code at Apache should reside under a package of org.apache. Yes, I can only recall that the only exceptions has been where there are some