Re: Terminada la traducción de la ayuda

2012-03-28 Thread RGB ES
Comentarios «en línea». El día 28 de marzo de 2012 22:57, Juan C. Sanz juancsa...@hotmail.com escribió: Bueno, no es que yo la haya terminado, es para avisaros por si no os habeis dado cuenta que han actualizado algo, y ahora la mayoría estaba traducido, apenas quedaban 100 palabra y ya las he

Re: Terminada la traducción de la ayuda

2012-03-28 Thread Marcos Delgado
El día 28 de marzo de 2012 15:52, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com escribió: Comentarios «en línea». El día 28 de marzo de 2012 22:57, Juan C. Sanz juancsa...@hotmail.com escribió: Bueno, no es que yo la haya terminado, es para avisaros por si no os habeis dado cuenta que han actualizado algo, y

Re: Binary dependencies in source releases (Was: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0)

2012-03-28 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: That said, I'm not aware of us actually having such a release out there? Take such fringe projects like Ant, Tomcat, Lucene and Xalan that have been shipping releases like throughout the past decade. See examples dating

Reporting time again

2012-03-28 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, The podling reports for April [1] are due in one week, so now is a good time to start thinking about them. See also the end of this message for the list of podlings expected to report in April. The biggest source of questions raised when reviewing past reports is the level community activity

Re: Binary dependencies in source releases (Was: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0)

2012-03-28 Thread Benson Margulies
Roy, Of course you, personally, can't be expected to supervise all projects or fix all documentation. At the same time, there's something a little depressing about the situation. On the one hand, the principle at work here is, to paraphrase you, absolutely central to the defined mission of the

Re: Binary dependencies in source releases (Was: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0)

2012-03-28 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Mar 28, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: Roy, Of course you, personally, can't be expected to supervise all projects or fix all documentation. At the same time, there's something a little depressing about the situation. On the one hand, the principle at work here is, to

Re: Binary dependencies in source releases (Was: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0)

2012-03-28 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: Me not happy.  This is not any individual's fault, least of all Jukka, and certainly not a fault of the ManifoldCF podling that is going through this fun precisely to learn how to create an Apache release.  It is an

Re: Binary dependencies in source releases (Was: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0)

2012-03-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: On Mar 27, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, [dropped infra@, I believe most interested people are already on general@] Let's decouple this thread from the specific issue of the ManifoldCF release.

[all] Size of releases

2012-03-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, today the size of releases were discussed. If your podling release exceeds 1 GB of (total) size, please inform infra. They probably need to coordinate such releases to prevent problems with our mirrors. I will try to update this document now with the recommendation from infra:

RE: Binary dependencies in source releases (Was: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0)

2012-03-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think a bigger issue specifically for Apache OpenOffice has to do with branding and status of the released binaries. It is where the Apache (plus incubating) origin is brought to the users attention and what will be understood for it. It is served up directly (from the user perspective)

Re: Request for an early review of an potential Apache OpenOffice release

2012-03-28 Thread Marvin Humphrey
2012/3/28 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com: On 3/28/12 12:46 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: It is more or less a pure svn dump. Right -- just with a few files moved around and a bunch filtered out. yes, we build the src release package as part of a normal build and I exclude all svn

Re: [all] Size of releases

2012-03-28 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: I will try to update this document now with the recommendation from infra: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#release-distribution While you're at it, can you please also (or rather

Re: [all] Size of releases

2012-03-28 Thread Joe Schaefer
Can I please once again suggest that some of the enthusiasm for promoting the 1GB estimate I gave be tempered a bit with the morerealistic circumstance that this will all soon be a non-issue again once we've sorted out OpenOffice over the coming days and weeks? The bigtop situation is rather

Re: [all] Size of releases

2012-03-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Jukka, On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: I will try to update this document now with the recommendation from infra: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#release-distribution While you're at it, can you please also (or rather

Re: [all] Size of releases

2012-03-28 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Jukka Zitting wrote on Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 22:34:30 +0200: Hi, On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: I will try to update this document now with the recommendation from infra:

Re: [all] Size of releases

2012-03-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Jukka Zitting wrote on Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 22:34:30 +0200: Hi, On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: I will try to update this document now with the recommendation from

Re: Binary dependencies in source releases (Was: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0)

2012-03-28 Thread Matt Hogstrom
On Mar 28, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: If you want to do it right, build the whole thing from scratch -- nothing but the source code. If there isn't at least one person (or CI bot) doing that per project, we're screwed. I think the problem has gotten more challenging over time