It's the PPMC's job to vet these dependencies, not the mentors. I already did
this once after no one answered my request for help during the 0.7.0 vote.
Someone from the Kafka PPMC needs to step up. My vote will depend on the
outcome of this check.
BTW, there's a number of duplicate jars. N
On Jun 21, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> At some point, though, IPMC members either need to start voting -1 on any
> incubating RC that has a jar file in it, or someone needs to formally answer
> Roy's argument and explain how binary files can be considered "open source"
> when they
On Jun 21, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Chris Douglas wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Marvin Humphrey
> wrote:
>> Obeying dependency license provisions is not an ASF policy, it's a legal
>> requirement. Fairness is immaterial.
>>
>> If you bundle the bits, you must deal with the licensing and
+1
If this is going to be a new hard requirement the people who feel strongly
about this should add something to Rat or write some kind of a plugin.
Regards,
Alan
On Jun 21, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Jun Rao wrote:
> Kevan,
>
> I agree that to the benefit of users, it would be reasonable for Apac
On Jun 21, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>> So, attempting to clarify:
>>
>> I think Alan's (Kafka's) position is that dependencies don't matter since
>> they are not distributing binary artifacts.
>>
>> I would agree with Alan, if Kafka source was simply intended to be used in
>> so
On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
> I think Alan's (Kafka's) position is that dependencies don't matter since
> they are not distributing binary artifacts.
Dependencies do matter and they need to be checked. IMO, that point is
non-negotiable.
The point that I'm trying to ma
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Chris Douglas wrote:
> Your musings on binaries are, as Martin pointed out, not legal arguments but
> preferences for clean downstream consumption.
I think there's been a miscommunication. Kevan and I may place different
weight on documenting licensing for non-bu
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> Obeying dependency license provisions is not an ASF policy, it's a legal
> requirement. Fairness is immaterial.
>
> If you bundle the bits, you must deal with the licensing and you must get it
> right.
Sure, but that's not an issue here.
+1 on the release.
Run quickstart and unit tests. All good.
Thanks,
Jun
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Joe Stein wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This is the third candidate for the second incubator release for Apache
> Kafka, version 0.7.1-incubating.
>
> This release fixes the following issues
>
> htt
Hi, Jun,
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Jun Rao wrote:
> I agree that to the benefit of users, it would be reasonable for Apache
> projects to include license/notice for all dependant jars (directly or
> indirectly) in a release. However, this has to be done automatically by
> tools, not manual
On 22 June 2012 01:29, Jun Rao wrote:
> Kevan,
>
> I agree that to the benefit of users, it would be reasonable for Apache
> projects to include license/notice for all dependant jars (directly or
> indirectly) in a release. However, this has to be done automatically by
> tools, not manually by hum
Kevan,
I agree that to the benefit of users, it would be reasonable for Apache
projects to include license/notice for all dependant jars (directly or
indirectly) in a release. However, this has to be done automatically by
tools, not manually by human beings. IMO, without such tools, it's unfair
(a
+1 (binding)
On Jun 21, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are proposing Allura to be admitted to the Apache Incubator, and would
> like to request that the IPMC votes on this issue. The requisite 72 hours has
> passed since the initial proposal.
>
> The proposal may be found a
No. You have access to the same search functionality. Moreover, given the
criteria that Kafka 0.7.0 was approved under, the burden of proof is on you
to find references. Your musings on binaries are, as Martin pointed out,
not legal arguments but preferences for clean downstream consumption. Even
i
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>> If a project has a gazillion dependencies, regardless of whether those
>> dependencies are direct or transitive, that makes dealing with licensing more
>> challenging, but it doesn't change our legal obligations.
>
> I think you and I agree.
+1 (non-binding)
On 21/06/12 17:34, Rich Bowen wrote:
Hi,
We are proposing Allura to be admitted to the Apache Incubator, and would like
to request that the IPMC votes on this issue. The requisite 72 hours has passed
since the initial proposal.
The proposal may be found at http://wiki.apache
On Jun 21, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Chris Douglas wrote:
> Great. We're not distributing the Snappy codec, so- according to the
> reasoning of board@, legal@, and the IPMC on the 0.7.0 release- the
> NOTICE and LICENSE files do not require updates. We're not starting
> from first principles at every rel
Thanks for the improvements Joe!
I'm still -1 based on the licensing and binary artifacts in your source.
(binding)
--kevan
On Jun 20, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Joe Stein wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This is the third candidate for the second incubator release for Apache
> Kafka, version 0.7.1-incubating.
>
+1 (binding)
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > We are proposing Allura to be admitted to the Apache Incubator, and
> would like to request that the IPMC votes on this issue. The requisite 72
> hours has pass
Great. We're not distributing the Snappy codec, so- according to the
reasoning of board@, legal@, and the IPMC on the 0.7.0 release- the
NOTICE and LICENSE files do not require updates. We're not starting
from first principles at every release.
I'm +1 on RC3. The LICENSE/NOTICE files contain the n
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 06:34 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> > [ ] +1 I recommend that Allura becomes an Apache Incubator project
>
+1 (binding)
--
Best Regards,
-- Alex
+1 (binding)
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> 2012/6/21 Rich Bowen :
> > Hi,
> >
> > We are proposing Allura to be admitted to the Apache Incubator, and
> would like to request that the IPMC votes on this issue. The requisite 72
> hours has passed since th
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> Rich, I note you mark your vote as non-binding.
>
> To be a champion/mentor you need to be an IPMC member. Since you are
> already an SF member you just need to ask and Jukka will sort it out.
For the archives... it's his Apache membership th
On Jun 21, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Rich, I note you mark your vote as non-binding.
>
> To be a champion/mentor you need to be an IPMC member. Since you are
> already an SF member you just need to ask and Jukka will sort it out.
Ah. I didn't realize this. Jukka, can you hook me u
Rich, I note you mark your vote as non-binding.
To be a champion/mentor you need to be an IPMC member. Since you are
already an SF member you just need to ask and Jukka will sort it out.
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Jun 21, 2012 8:09 PM, "Rich Bowen" wrote:
+1 (binding)
2012/6/21 Rich Bowen :
> Hi,
>
> We are proposing Allura to be admitted to the Apache Incubator, and would
> like to request that the IPMC votes on this issue. The requisite 72 hours has
> passed since the initial proposal.
>
> The proposal may be found at http://wiki.apache.org/inc
On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:20 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
>>> With that said, I think it's something good and extremely useful to strive
>>> for. The lack of it, i.e. extensive documentati
On 06/21/2012 06:34 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are proposing Allura to be admitted to the Apache Incubator, and would
> like to request that the IPMC votes on this issue. The requisite 72 hours has
> passed since the initial proposal.
>
> The proposal may be found at http://wiki.apache.
Not sure. It's simple enough to check the email archives for my last plea.
With that said, I was hoping we could kill two birds with one stone.
Regards,
Alan
On Jun 21, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Chris Douglas wrote:
> Did these dependencies change between 0.7.0 and 0.7.1? -C
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 20
The Apache Airavata (Incubating) team is pleased to announce the immediate
availability of the Airavata 0.3-INCUBATING release.
The release can be obtained from the Apache Airavata download page -
http://incubator.apache.org/airavata/about/downloads.html
Release notes are available at -
https:/
1) snappy-java-1.0.4.1.jar is required when setting Snappy as a compression
codec which is pulled from maven from ./sbt update and is Apache License
2.0 http://code.google.com/p/snappy-java/
2) ZooKeeper client jar upgraded from 3.3.3 to 3.3.4
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Chris Douglas wrote:
+1
--tim
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are proposing Allura to be admitted to the Apache Incubator, and would
> like to request that the IPMC votes on this issue. The requisite 72 hours has
> passed since the initial proposal.
>
> The proposal may be found at
On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are proposing Allura to be admitted to the Apache Incubator, and would
> like to request that the IPMC votes on this issue. The requisite 72 hours has
> passed since the initial proposal.
>
> The proposal may be found at http://wiki
+1 (non-binding)
On Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are proposing Allura to be admitted to the Apache Incubator, and would
> like to request that the IPMC votes on this issue. The requisite 72 hours has
> passed since the initial proposal.
>
> The proposal
+1 (non-binding)
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> From a mobile device - forgive errors and terseness
> On Jun 21, 2012 5:35 PM, "Rich Bowen" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We are proposing Allura to be admitted to the Apache Incubator, and would
>> like to request
Did these dependencies change between 0.7.0 and 0.7.1? -C
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
> On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Joe Stein wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> This is the third candidate for the second incubator release for Apache
>> Kafka, version 0.7.1-incubating.
>>
>>
+1 (binding)
>From a mobile device - forgive errors and terseness
On Jun 21, 2012 5:35 PM, "Rich Bowen" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are proposing Allura to be admitted to the Apache Incubator, and would
> like to request that the IPMC votes on this issue. The requisite 72 hours
> has passed since the in
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
> On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:20 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>> With that said, I think it's something good and extremely useful to strive
>> for. The lack of it, i.e. extensive documentation in LICENSE/NOTICE with
>> regards to transitive dependenci
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are proposing Allura to be admitted to the Apache Incubator, and would
> like to request that the IPMC votes on this issue. The requisite 72 hours has
> passed since the initial proposal.
>
> The proposal may be found at http://wik
On Jun 21, 2012, at 6:15 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>
> On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:20 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 18, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Jun Rao wrote:
>>>
Kevin,
Thanks for the comments. Just want to clarify o
+1 binding
Regards,
Alan
On Jun 21, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are proposing Allura to be admitted to the Apache Incubator, and would
> like to request that the IPMC votes on this issue. The requisite 72 hours has
> passed since the initial proposal.
>
> The proposal
Hi,
We are proposing Allura to be admitted to the Apache Incubator, and would like
to request that the IPMC votes on this issue. The requisite 72 hours has passed
since the initial proposal.
The proposal may be found at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AlluraProposal
Please cast your vote.
[ ]
On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:20 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
> On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Jun Rao wrote:
>>
>>> Kevin,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the comments. Just want to clarify on your points on
>>> LICENSE/NOTICE. Our LICENSE/NOTICE covers all
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