On May 7, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On May 7, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On a whole different direction, one way to scale is to shift from
Incubator-managed
Thanks Suresh!
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
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If I were king of the forest, I would be to fire all the mentors. All except,
of course, me, because I'm the king. :) All the ex-mentors would become
emeritus mentors that can be reinstated merely by asking.
Those emeritus mentors who wish to remain mentors must acknowledge that they
will
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Alan Cabrera a...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
...If I were king of the forest, I would be to fire all the mentors. All
except, of course, me,
because I'm the king. :) All the ex-mentors would become emeritus mentors
that
can be reinstated merely by asking
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Tom Everett t...@khubla.com wrote:
...I haven't made a
significant effort to build a community around Pragmatach, mainly because
I'm not familiar with how to announce it, where, and to whom...
The best way to build a community is to write enough initial code to
On 7 May 2013 21:15, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On a whole different direction, one way to scale is to shift from
Incubator-managed podlings to Board-managed. The podling would
effectively be a TLP on probation. The Champion, Mentors, and Board
would be providing oversight.
I would
On 8 May 2013 01:01, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Alan Cabrera a...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
...If I were king of the forest, I would be to fire all the mentors. All
except, of course, me,
because I'm the king. :) All the ex-mentors would
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
Discussions on Ross' and Chris' proposals ground to a halt.
In my view, there are real issues that drove those discussions, even if
those
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
...I've made a proposal for giving the IPMC teeth but it hasn't gained
support..
URL?
...In the absence of something else with teeth then I'm +1 for
probationary TLPs as proposed by Chris as long as we stop
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Alan Cabrera a...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
...
Podlings would be required to have a minimum of two active mentors. A mentor
is free to become inactive but must explicitly
state this else the mentor risks being removed for not performing their
duties.
I like
I perceive here that we have reached a favorite knot: the tension
between 'mentor as coach' and 'mentor as supervisor'.
This PMC's job, as delegated by the board, is supervision. If the
mentors don't supervise, who will?
On the other hand, the very term, 'mentor', is much more suggestive of
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
...I continue to hope for consensus on the thing I wrote...
I had another look at
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BensonApril2013ProcessProposals and I
like it.
While asking all podlings to confirm their current
On May 8, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Alan Cabrera a...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
...If I were king of the forest, I would be to fire all the mentors. All
except, of course, me,
because I'm the king. :) All the
On May 8, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
...I continue to hope for consensus on the thing I wrote...
I had another look at
On May 8, 2013, at 1:47 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
The probationary PMC proposal of Chris' which Greg is championing
gives teeth to the whole process. That's what the IPMC needs - teeth.
Shuttling the kids off to the grandparents, even if they have all their teeth,
is
Mostly a lurker, but a quick reply...
On 5/8/13 2:53 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Alan Cabrera a...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
...
Podlings would be required to have a minimum of two active mentors. A mentor
is free to become inactive but must explicitly
state this
On May 8, 2013, at 2:53 AM, Tim Williams william...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Alan Cabrera a...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
...
Podlings would be required to have a minimum of two active mentors. A
mentor is free to become inactive but must explicitly
state this else the
On May 8, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Eric Johnson e...@tibco.com wrote:
Mostly a lurker, but a quick reply...
And, in order to facilitate continuous improvement over time, the incubator
as a whole could periodically survey random incubator committers and
determine whether they're getting the
On May 8, 2013, at 3:31 AM, Alan Cabrera a...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
If I were king of the forest, I would be to fire all the mentors. All
except, of course, me, because I'm the king. :) All the ex-mentors would
become emeritus mentors that can be reinstated merely by asking.
There is a
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:00:14AM -0700, Alan Cabrera wrote:
On May 8, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Eric Johnson e...@tibco.com wrote:
One last suggested refinement:
At least two mentors, but perhaps not allow more than three, where the
third is generally a backup for the others in a
Does anyone know where the Marvin code bits live?
Regards,
Alan
On May 7, 2013, at 7:25 PM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
Christian Grobmeier wrote:
Folks,
its reporting time and at the wiki are a lot of them missing!
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2013
Ambari
Blur
On May 8, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote:
Podlings would be required to have a minimum of two active mentors. A
mentor is free to become inactive but must explicitly state this else the
mentor risks being removed for not performing their duties. Podlings that
do
On May 8, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On May 8, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote:
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:00:14AM -0700, Alan Cabrera wrote:
On May 8, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Eric Johnson e...@tibco.com wrote:
One last
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:40:59AM -0700, Alan Cabrera wrote:
On May 8, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On May 8, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com
wrote:
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:00:14AM -0700, Alan Cabrera wrote:
On
Thanks Suresh, this is exactly what I needed! I'm able to commit now.
Cheers!
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Thanks Suresh!
++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior
If I'm a king of a dream forest...
I think how to improve attractiveness of free software to contributors. It
is no longer a cool trend. How about find some resources (maybe internal
ones) to make people strengthen the community by creative reasons? Business
reasons are short living (compared to
Alan Cabrera created PODLINGNAMESEARCH-32:
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Summary: Establish whether Apache MRQL is a suitable name
Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-32
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-32
On May 8, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
One last suggested refinement:
At least two mentors, but perhaps not allow more than three, where the
third is generally a backup for the others in a transition period, such
as one of the mentors looking to shed their
On May 8, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote:
Will a lazy consensus IPMC time be as motivating (for taking time to verify
releases) as the required 3rd vote?
Sebb is awesome. I think people make the effort because they want to. The 72
hour period allow for people to
Alan Cabrera wrote:
Does anyone know where the Marvin code bits live?
At
https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/tools/board_reminders/
There are various discussions in the Incubator archives about how the
data lists (for mail addresses for each project due to report each
On May 8, 2013, at 8:06 PM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
Alan Cabrera wrote:
Does anyone know where the Marvin code bits live?
At
https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/tools/board_reminders/
There are various discussions in the Incubator archives about
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