Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > ...We should stop being abstract with blanket statements and we > should be looking at specifics... That was the idea behind https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorIssues2013 (I don't think that's immutable BTW, I suppose whoever saw tha

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache AsterixDB Incubator

Hi Henry, thanks! It’s great that you’ve seen (and liked) AsterixDB before. Even if your time is very limited we would be very happy to have you on board as a mentor. I’ll add you to the proposal. Cheers, Till > On Jan 19, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Henry Saputra wrote: > > +1 This is GREAT News! >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache AsterixDB Incubator

> On Jan 19, 2015, at 11:34 AM, jan i wrote: > > Looks like a real challenging project, and the proposal looks as if it has > already been through a couple of refinement rounds. > > Count on my +1, when it comes to voting. Will do! Thanks, Till > > rgds > jan i > > On 19 January 2015 at 1

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache AsterixDB Incubator

Thank you. So for we’ve added 3 slots for mentors on the proposal - I hope that’ll be sufficient even for the relatively large number of new committers. Till > On Jan 19, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Henry Saputra wrote: > > Thanks Till, > > Will try to solicit more mentors to help. > Especially with in

When is an ICLA needed?

All I keep an eye on the Lucene.Net TLP since I use it in some of my other projects and after a long hiatus the activity in that community has picked up considerably. However there is one thing that has caught my eye that they've been doing recently which I'm not sure is strictly necessary. I no

Re: When is an ICLA needed?

Rob, I recommend projects to request ICLAs whenever accepting a contribution. Signing an ICLA has no correlation to being accepted as a committer. John On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 6:04:25 AM Rob Vesse wrote: > All > > I keep an eye on the Lucene.Net TLP since I use it in some of my other > projects

Re: When is an ICLA needed?

On 20 January 2015 at 11:57, Rob Vesse wrote: > All > > I keep an eye on the Lucene.Net TLP since I use it in some of my other > projects and after a long hiatus the activity in that community has picked > up considerably. However there is one thing that has caught my eye that > they've been doi

Re: When is an ICLA needed?

Hi, On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Rob Vesse wrote: > ...My understanding was always that the ICLA is only required if you are a > committer though may still be desirable for larger contributions,... That's my understanding, requiring an iCLA for minor contributions is not needed. What's imp

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache AsterixDB Incubator

Should be fine. Regards, Alan > On Jan 19, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Till Westmann wrote: > > Thank you. > So for we’ve added 3 slots for mentors on the proposal - I hope that’ll be > sufficient even for the relatively large number of new committers. > > Till > >> On Jan 19, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Henry

Incubating with Apache Commons as champion?

The discussion on dev@commons about coming-to-Apache Commons-RDF (https://github.com/commons-rdf/commons-rdf/) seems to be rejecting a temporary mailing list like rdf@commons as it is seen t be splitting Apache Commons as a project - the ideal committer on Apache Commons is caring about all its com

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

> On Jan 19, 2015, at 11:57 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Chris Douglas wrote: >> ...So make a list of the IPMC members >> you believe should judge the other 90%, and submit a proposal to the >> board to start a new project. Fork the incubator > > H

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

Can you add your concerns to the end each of the wiki pages? I intend to update my proposal to clear up the apprehensions that you seem to have. You can then remove/amend your concerns from the wiki proposal. I will quickly state that “naughty lists” are not part of the mentor-reboot proposal.

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > ...Isn’t it obvious what the above and IncubatorV2 proposal are about? > Consolidating > like minded individuals into a new IPMC and shutting out the other > inconvenient > members until "they come to their senses” I don't buy that

Re: Incubating with Apache Commons as champion?

Stian If a community made predominantly of existing Apache committers (or containing a strong core of) already exists and this would be a small self contained module as part of Apache Commons then why does the Incubator need be involved at all? Why can this not just be submitted directly to Apach

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

> On Jan 20, 2015, at 6:46 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Alan D. Cabrera >> wrote: >> ...Isn’t it obvious what the above and IncubatorV2 proposal are about? >> Consolidating >> like minded individuals into a new IPMC and shutting out the other >> in

RE: Incubating with Apache Commons as champion?

I hear what Stian is saying about the noise in Commons. If the team feel its not going to work for them then the incubator might be the right route. IMHO there is no reason why you couldn't be sponsored by the commons PMC. You would still need the IPMC to clear releases but that means three IPMC

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > ...Under the above proposals, that necessarily messy, frustrating, > exhausting, process > of garnering consensus on the above thorny issues will not take place as > philosophically > compatible IPM v2 members turn out Apache projects that f

Re: Incubating with Apache Commons as champion?

On 20/01/15 15:28, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: The suggestion is that Commons-RDF could be a incubator project, but with a projected path to become part of the Apache Commons instead of a TLP. (I believe this path has not happened before) It did happened before: http://markmail.org/search/?q=l

Re: Incubating with Apache Commons as champion?

On 20/01/15 16:08, Rob Vesse wrote: On the other hand does Commons-RDF necessarily need to come to the ASF at all? If it is a small self-contained interface module that will remain stable what does it gain (other than brand association) by coming to the ASF? Well, this question eventually came

RE: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

My strawman, which included a board like IPMC, certainly wasn't about shutting out inconvenient IPMC members, that is simply a ridiculous a d insulting suggestion (if it wasn't intended in that way then fine, but it sure sounds like it). My strawman was partly about consensus, but mostly about

Re: Incubating with Apache Commons as champion?

Just because a lot of Apache committers are involved and could put things right into another project (or even propose a new TLP directly) doesn't mean it happens. https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal was voted -1 in the incubator because it had many Apache folks already and didn't n

Re: Incubating with Apache Commons as champion?

I agree that incoming codebase can go through the IP Clearance, and if the committers are already Commons folks (predominantly), and the only actual issue is the number of mails on the dev@, then I think that separate mailing list is fine, perhaps with the exception of not having a name related to

RE: Incubating with Apache Commons as champion?

It's not for the IPMC to decide commons policy. If they feel another mailing list is not appropriate that is their call. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Niclas Hedhman Sent: ‎1/‎20/‎2015 8:07 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org

RE: When is an ICLA needed?

I agree with Bertrand. Note whoever commits the patch is doing so under their ICLA. In other words if someone feels it does not contain significant IP then they can commit. Paperwork is a barrier to entry which is simply not necessary for trivial contributions. Sent from my Windows Phone _

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache AsterixDB Incubator

Wonderful; thanks, Ted!! Cheers, Mike On 1/19/15 11:29 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: Chris just asked me under separate cover. I am happy to help out as mentor. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Henry Saputra mailto:henry.sapu...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks Till, Will try to solicit more

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache AsterixDB Incubator

Excellent; thanks, Jochen!! Cheers, Mike On 1/19/15 11:44 PM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Hi, Chris, I am interested in the proposal and (following up to my involvement with VXQuery in the past) would like to offer myself as a mentor. Jochen On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:21 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398

Re: Incubating with Apache Commons as champion?

Agreed The point that I was trying to make is that if those involved already understand the Apache Way going through Incubation for the sake of it seems a pointless exercise especially when the legal/IP aspects of things can be handled in other fashions. If you are in a position to simply contrib

Re: When is an ICLA needed?

On 20.01.2015 17:16, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > I agree with Bertrand. Note whoever commits the patch is doing so under their > ICLA. Really? That can't be right: one can't become the author of a change (and therefore can't license it to the ASF) merely by having committed it. That's wh

Re: When is an ICLA needed?

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Branko Čibej wrote: > On 20.01.2015 17:16, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >> I agree with Bertrand. Note whoever commits the patch is doing so under >> their ICLA. > > Really? That can't be right: one can't become the author of a change > (and therefore can't

Re: When is an ICLA needed?

On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 1:54:32 PM Benson Margulies wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Branko Čibej wrote: > > On 20.01.2015 17:16, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > >> I agree with Bertrand. Note whoever commits the patch is doing so under > their ICLA. > > > > Really? That can't be rig

Is there a place I can programmatically pull in PPMC members?

Is there a place I can programmatically pull in PPMC members? Regards, Alan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

RE: When is an ICLA needed?

Benson is correct: Section 4 of the ICLA states "You represent that you are legally entitled to grant the above license." It doesn't say you own copyright, only that you have the permission to grant the license on the copyrighted material (which the copyright owners indicates by making the pa

RE: Is there a place I can programmatically pull in PPMC members?

See the code behind Whimsy (https://whimsy.apache.org/technology.html) The part you looking for produces https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committee/incubator Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Alan D. Cabrera [mailto:l...@too

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache AsterixDB Incubator

Added my name to the mentor list. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Mike Carey wrote: > Wonderful; thanks, Ted!! > Cheers, > Mike > > On 1/19/15 11:29 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > > Chris just asked me under separate cover. > > I am happy to help out as mentor. > > > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at

RE: [VOTE] [PROPOSAL] Accept OpenAz (Access Control Tools) into the Apache Incubator

+1 Hal > -Original Message- > From: Hal Lockhart > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 1:16 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: [VOTE] [PROPOSAL] Accept OpenAz (Access Control Tools) into > the Apache Incubator > > I call a vote to accept OpenAz as a new Incubator project. > > T

Re: Is there a place I can programmatically pull in PPMC members?

This seems to get me the IPMC members, not the PPMC members of podlings. Am I misinterpreting the page? Regards, Alan > On Jan 20, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) > wrote: > > See the code behind Whimsy (https://whimsy.apache.org/technology.html) > > The part you looking for

[RESULT] [VOTE] Accept OpenAz (Access Control Tools) into the Apache Incubator

Vote passes with: [6] +1 (binding): hadrian, coheigea, elecharny, pzf, adc, jani [6] +1 (non-binding): chris rath, rich levinson, pam dragosh, dilli arumungam, david laurance, hal lockhart [0] -1: Congratulations and good luck to the OpenAZ community. Hal > -Original Message- > From:

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

I just experienced being placed on a naughty list in the last incubator report because I was travelling for business and missed checking the box for HTrace. It may not be on any specific proposal. It seems to already be in practice. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > Can

Re: Incubating with Apache Commons as champion?

Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal was voted -1 in the incubator because it had many Apache folks already and didn't need to learn anything. Yet the project didn't move into Apache - perhaps because it didn't have any pressure or framework to go throug

RE: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

As an IPMC member I have objected to this part of the report. As a Director I have already commented on the report that this practice is inappropriate. I will ask for that section to be struck from the minutes, we'll see if other directors agree. My comment on the report is: rg: I've already m

RE: Is there a place I can programmatically pull in PPMC members?

Sorry misread your request as IPMC Ross Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Alan D. Cabrera [mailto:a...@toolazydogs.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:17 AM To: infrastructure-...@apache.org Cc: general@incubator.apache.

Re: Is there a place I can programmatically pull in PPMC members?

On 20 January 2015 at 20:29, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Sorry misread your request as IPMC > > Ross > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. > A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation > > -Original Message- > From: Alan D. Cabrera [mailto:a...@toolazydogs.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache htrace-3.1.0-incubating

Thank you for voting Justin. Filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTRACE-85 to take care of your feedback. St.Ack On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > +1 (binding) if the NOTICE and LICENSE file are fixed for the next release > > I checked: > - signatures and m

Re: Is there a place I can programmatically pull in PPMC members?

> On Jan 20, 2015, at 11:36 AM, jan i wrote: > > On 20 January 2015 at 20:29, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < > ross.gard...@microsoft.com > wrote: > >> Sorry misread your request as IPMC >> >> Ross >> >> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. >> A subsidiary of Mi

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache htrace-3.1.0-incubating

+1 (binding -- though it may not be allowed that I vote on an RC I posted). >From the htrace mailing list [1]: "+1 Verified md5 and signature. Ran rat and all unit tests. Was able to assemble a src tarball from downloaded tarball. St.Ack" 1. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

It may already be a “practice" but it is not part of the mentor-reboot proposal. Regards, Alan > On Jan 20, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Andrew Purtell wrote: > > I just experienced being placed on a naughty list in the last incubator > report because I was travelling for business and missed checking th

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache htrace-3.1.0-incubating

+1 binding On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Stack wrote: > Apache HTrace (incubating), after ten release candidates, has voted to > release the below referenced Apache HTrace 3.1.0-incubating release > candidate. > > Dear IPMC, please vote on our first release candidate as an Apache > Incubator

Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@apache.org > wrote: > How is that different from pruning the current IPMC membership by > removing inactive members? Doing *that* would be straightforward. Take the set of mentors on currently incubating projects, add the other ha

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache htrace-3.1.0-incubating

WIth 3+1 (binding), a dodgy binding +1 vote (mine), and a non-binding +1, the vote passes. Thank you to all who voted. Let me push out our first release out of incubator. Thanks, St.Ack On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Billie Rinaldi wrote: > +1 binding > > On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 10:36 PM, St