Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Groovy from the Incubator

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > The VOTE to graduate Groovy to the top-level project has passed... Congrats! Great job Groovy team, let me add my belated +1 as a happy Groovy mentor (retired from that role soon ;-) (no need to change the tally, you

podlings and github

One of the concerns members are talking about with podlings on github concerns their overall presence there. To be brief, we need to take a closer look at any podlings that are using their own project on github versus using their clone on the apache github project. So that opens the question I

Re: svn credentials, how to get them

Ping your project mentors for help. Also, please verify that all of your project committers and PMC members have followed the on-boarding process. On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Pan, Lei (398K) wrote: > Hi Ted: > > Thanks! > > The page says I will first need to submit

[RESULT] [VOTE] Accept SystemML into Apache Incubator

Vote has passed with 6 binding votes from : Luciano Resende, Henry Saputra, Chris A Mattmann Till Westmann Seetharam Venkatesh Julian Hyde And two non-binding votes from: Arun Manoharan Madhawa Kasun Gunasekara and no other votes. Thanks On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Luciano Resende

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On 11/02/2015 09:50 AM, David Jencks wrote: I haven’t looked at what they are doing and don’t expect I will. However, I’m assuming that jira changes all get to the dev list, as in all other projects I’ve worked on. I don’t see the point in duplicating a proposal between a jira issue and a

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Groovy from the Incubator

On 11/02/2015 07:53 AM, John D. Ament wrote: I certainly hope that people don't just blindly vote +1 on graduation >>threads. I know I don't. >> >>Now, if you had asked this same question on the kylin graduation thread, >>I'm not sure you'd get as solid of an answer as groovy. >> >> > > >It

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On 11/02/2015 06:59 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Hi all, I'm one of the mentors of Sentry, which has been in incubation for some time. The project has progressed in a number of ways, but my largest concern is that the podling is doing [in my opinion] too much development and discussion

Re: svn credentials, how to get them

Hi Lei, Moving general@i.a.o to BCC and moving thread to dev@cmda.i.a.o: Did you ever receive an Apache account? I look at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lNQUjdBOn1l1WIytXee827esYUMRr3TMO5v IfoDXP5U/edit#gid=0 And I don’t see it complete. Can folks on the team please work to get

Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

Sorry, I missed this email. No, votes don't automatically convert, at least not in my case. After my vote was added, there was a release vote of Kylin which raised new licensing issues. I wouldn't expect a graduating podling to still have licensing issues. John On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

Joe, can we see some jira tickets that you find questionable? Hard to tell what the problem is just by scanning the email traffic. On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Vinod Vavilapalli wrote: > Missed that part, that sounds really bad. > > +Vinod > > On Nov 2, 2015, at

Karma for mentor-signoff on wiki

Can someone grant me the necessary karma to add my [x] on November's report, please? username: JoshElser Thanks! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

Missed that part, that sounds really bad. +Vinod On Nov 2, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Joe Brockmeier > wrote: Discussions are happening out of sight, and - in Arvind's own words - "as if following a roadmap the community does not have control over... that too is

Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

5 releases of software, and 4 of them before an SGA appeared is troubling. The code being imported and writable at all at the ASF prior to a valid SGA being filed appears to be a violation of Incubator policy[1] This, plus John's comments are troubling and give me pause --David [1]

Re: Karma for mentor-signoff on wiki

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Josh Elser wrote: > Can someone grant me the necessary karma to add my [x] on November's report, > please? > > username: JoshElser Done. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe,

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Groovy from the Incubator

On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 07:25AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > On 11/01/2015 07:48 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > >Thanks for sending this around, Paul - I should've linked it to the vote > >thread, duh... > > > >Anyway, back to Rich's question: the answer is 'yes' as implied by my +1 on > >the vote.

Re: svn credentials, how to get them

Thanks Ted. Thread moved over to dev@cmda.i.a.o to discuss. We have a Google Doc spreadsheet tracking that and I think it’s out of date. ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Chief Architect Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On 11/02/2015 12:27 PM, Vinod Vavilapalli wrote: > Many of the active TLPs do tend to center all project discussions on JIRA as > opposed to mailing lists. OTOH, non-code discussions are usually best served > on mailing lists. > > Instead of making it a JIRA vs mailing list discussion, how

Access to Wiki

I would like to update the status report for the Apex project. Can you please give access to the following user: ThomasWeise Thanks!

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

I haven't seen the "quick closing" aside from things like some test cleanups, even then the average was 5 days. I ran the jira report for resolution time and it certainly doesn't seem like jiras are being closed "instantly". Most of these are closed after many (typ. double digit, some tripple)

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

Thanks Patrick. I did some poking around in jira and certainly wasn't able to discern any pattern of misconduct. We do need to distinguish repair work from architecture/design decisions, and what I see is a lot of the former and relatively little of the latter. On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:32 PM,

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On 11/02/2015 01:09 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Joe, can we see some jira tickets that you find questionable? Hard to tell > what the problem is just by scanning the email traffic. I'll (again) point to the previous conversation that came out of David's discussion with Sentry folks at ApacheCon

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Groovy from the Incubator

On 11/02/2015 01:51 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 07:25AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > >On 11/01/2015 07:48 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > >Thanks for sending this around, Paul - I should've linked it to the vote > >thread, duh... > > > >Anyway, back to Rich's question:

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

I am part of Sentry community and I do not think we ever had an instance (in my honest knowledge) where a jira was committed before people had opportunity to respond/discuss. Most of the communication as I see is on jira (ideas and design), some on email (roadmap, design, release, doc, other) and

[ANNOUNCE] Apache Slider 0.81.1-incubating

The Apache Slider team is proud to announce Apache Slider incubation release version 0.81.1-incubating. Apache Slider (incubating) is a YARN application which deploys existing distributed applications on YARN, monitors them, and makes them larger or smaller as desired - even while the

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Groovy from the Incubator

On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 09:11AM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: > Le 01/11/15 20:30, Rich Bowen a écrit : > > On Oct 28, 2015 4:26 PM, "Konstantin Boudnik" wrote: > >> Following discussions [1] about its current status, the Groovy community > >> has voted [2] to graduate from the

Re: svn credentials, how to get them

Hi Ted: Thanks! The page says I will first need to submit an ICLA, which I did (see email confirmation below), and then I will "be asked for a preferred Apache user name," and "will receive an email when your account has been created." Who will be asking me for a preferred user name please?

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Groovy from the Incubator

Le 01/11/15 20:30, Rich Bowen a écrit : > On Oct 28, 2015 4:26 PM, "Konstantin Boudnik" wrote: >> Following discussions [1] about its current status, the Groovy community >> has voted [2] to graduate from the Incubator. The vote passed [3] with 12 > +1s >> total, 5 are binding:

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

Many of the active TLPs do tend to center all project discussions on JIRA as opposed to mailing lists. OTOH, non-code discussions are usually best served on mailing lists. Instead of making it a JIRA vs mailing list discussion, how about the podling be advised about putting a cool-off period

Incubator PMC/Board report for Nov 2015 ([ppmc])

Dear podling, This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly board report. The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 18 November 2015, 10:30 am PST. The report for your podling

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

> On Nov 2, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > > On 11/02/2015 06:59 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm one of the mentors of Sentry, which has been in incubation for some >> time. The project has progressed in a number of ways, but my largest >>

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

What we do here is practice open *development*. That means if it is a foregone conclusion that some jira ticket gets opened with a patch already cooked up for it, you're not doing it right. The entire development process needs to be subject to public scrutiny, not just the end result. On Mon,

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

Here's an idea: how about you guys fill out the maturity model template? I really liked how it turned out during the Groovy graduation discussion and perhaps it can help here as well. JIRA vs. MLs is but a single facet of how a project practices "Apache Way". Personally I'd like to see more data

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

I think it is a good sign that community is volunteering to do the release work. Here is the formal release work starting email[1] and discussing details on when to branch and when to release giving sufficient time for everyone who want to get their favorite jiras in. Dapeng (RM for 1.6.0) also

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:08 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > On 11/02/2015 06:59 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm one of the mentors of Sentry, which has been in incubation for some >> time. The project has progressed in a number of ways, but my largest >> concern is

Re: podlings and github

Hi Joe, The Commons RDF incubator project has not removed their previous Github presence yet [1], as it gained a following before the move into the incubator and we didn't want to break those links prematurely before people recognised the new location. What we did do when accepted to the

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On 11/02/2015 03:57 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > I see this (the release discussion threads you linked) as a semi-mature > community that's well aligned. A number of folks responded to the request > for discussion and said they were in favor. It was done on the ML in the > open. What more do we want?

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate REEF

Hi, thanks for the vote! Does that mean we should move straight to the IPMC vote? I understood the incubation guide to first have a [DISCUSS], then [VOTE] thread. Markus On 2015-11-02 13:56, Chris Douglas wrote: > +1 (binding) -C > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Markus Weimer

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

I see this (the release discussion threads you linked) as a semi-mature community that's well aligned. A number of folks responded to the request for discussion and said they were in favor. It was done on the ML in the open. What more do we want? I don't see anyone excluded and I'm sure if there

Re: Karma for mentor-signoff on wiki

Thanks, Marvin! Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Josh Elser wrote: Can someone grant me the necessary karma to add my [x] on November's report, please? username: JoshElser Done. Marvin Humphrey

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On 11/02/2015 04:41 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur wrote: > I think it is a good sign that community is volunteering to do the release > work. I think the point I'm making is largely being ignored. I'm not seeing much room for volunteers, and a lot of indication that conversations/decisions are

[DISCUSS] Graduate REEF

Hi, the Apache REEF podling has discussed[0] and voted upon[1] graduation as a TLP. Following the incubation guide[3], we now ask for a feedback on our graduation. Thanks, Markus [0]: http://s.apache.org/reefgraduationdiscussion [1]: http://s.apache.org/reefgraduationppmsvoteresult [3]:

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate REEF

+1 (binding) -C On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Markus Weimer wrote: > Hi, > > the Apache REEF podling has discussed[0] and voted upon[1] graduation as > a TLP. Following the incubation guide[3], we now ask for a feedback on > our graduation. > > Thanks, > > Markus > > [0]:

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > On 11/02/2015 04:41 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur wrote: > > I think it is a good sign that community is volunteering to do the > release > > work. > > I think the point I'm making is largely being ignored. I'm not seeing > much

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015, at 08:28 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > On 11/02/2015 01:09 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > Joe, can we see some jira tickets that you find questionable? Hard to tell > > what the problem is just by scanning the email traffic. > > I'll (again) point to the previous conversation

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > > ... the reply from > Arvind which basically says he doesn't consider it an issue if the > project is "following a roadmap the community does not have control > over... that too is not an issue in my opinion at all." [2]

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate REEF

Heh; yes, you're right. As one of REEF's mentors, I'll add some of my observations of its community and development. The REEF project has built an open, welcoming, and diverse community. >From my sampling of the dev@ list over the last year or so, all design discussions (including infrastructure,

Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

Hi all, I'm one of the mentors of Sentry, which has been in incubation for some time. The project has progressed in a number of ways, but my largest concern is that the podling is doing [in my opinion] too much development and discussion out-of-sight. I've raised issues about this, as has David

Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

Hi Luke, At this point, I'd request that my vote remain listed as -1 on the board resolution. Thanks, John On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:00 PM Luke Han wrote: > Hi John, > In that case, how about to re-send the vote result to count your vote > to -1? Or would you like to

Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

Hi David, It was a mis-step of not filing SGA early, but I the issue just being brought up after several releases had been made and being +1 voted to go on. I don't there is nothing we could do to un-do the existing releases. But the error has been fixed and other than that I do not see any

Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:17 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Actually, 5/5 releases were done without the SGA. I'm not too worried > about that for a number of reasons. > The missing SGA was a defect in form, but not in substance. All of the original code came from eBay who

Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

Hi John, In that case, how about to re-send the vote result to count your vote to -1? Or would you like to change your mind? Back to the license discussion, it's already have been pointed out the root cause and it's should not an issue now. Google Fonts has agreement about that,

Re: podlings and github

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Peter Ansell wrote: > Does Apache use GitHub's "move" repository functionality that adds a > redirect if the name changes once? If not, is it viable for the > Commons RDF group to keep their original project (which contains > directions on

Re: svn credentials, how to get them

Thanks, Chris! I have heard back from the Secretary and now I have put in the requested Apache UID. Seungwon, Chengxing, Benyang, and Wei need to submit your ICLA please. Thanks, -Lei On 11/2/15 9:47 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" wrote: >Hi Lei, > >Moving

Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

Actually, 5/5 releases were done without the SGA. I'm not too worried about that for a number of reasons. 1. We imported the full history from the original repository, the podling has built upon that instead of flattening the commit. 2. The code coming in was already AL v2 compliant, so its

Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

Hi John, Will do and send to board with this adjustment. Thank you very much. Luke Best Regards! - Luke Han On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:06 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > Hi Luke, > > At this point, I'd request that my vote remain listed as -1

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

All of our projects are primarily in the recruitment business, so it does concern me that a project that's been here for over a year and hasn't managed to attract any new talent yet has some issues that need addressing. But that said I think you might be being a little hard on these guys Joe for

[ANNOUNCE] Apache Apex Core 3.2.0-incubating released

The Apache Apex community is pleased to announce release 3.2.0-incubating (Apex Core). This is the first release since incubation on 2015-08-17. Changes: https://github.com/apache/incubator-apex-core/blob/v3.2.0-incubating/CHANGELOG.md Apache Apex is an enterprise grade native YARN big

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Groovy from the Incubator

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:25 AM Rich Bowen wrote: > > > On 11/01/2015 07:48 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > > Thanks for sending this around, Paul - I should've linked it to the vote > > thread, duh... > > > > Anyway, back to Rich's question: the answer is 'yes' as implied by

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Groovy from the Incubator

On 11/02/2015 07:33 AM, John D. Ament wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:25 AM Rich Bowen wrote: > > >On 11/01/2015 07:48 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > >Thanks for sending this around, Paul - I should've linked it to the vote > >thread, duh... > > > >Anyway, back to

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Groovy from the Incubator

On 11/01/2015 07:48 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: Thanks for sending this around, Paul - I should've linked it to the vote thread, duh... Anyway, back to Rich's question: the answer is 'yes' as implied by my +1 on the vote. Why would I be voting for the graduation if I weren't sure the

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

Jira issues are (IMO) a bit too passive to be focal points for community interaction. The *active* process of an email arriving in your inbox? Much better for enabling community members to participate. And a uniform and easy way to do so. Especially against the *transient* nature of Jira issues.

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Groovy from the Incubator

On Nov 2, 2015 07:43, "Rich Bowen" wrote: > > > > On 11/02/2015 07:33 AM, John D. Ament wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:25 AM Rich Bowen wrote: >> >>> > >>> > >>> >On 11/01/2015 07:48 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > >Thanks for sending this

wiki access for "LeiChang"

Hi, Could "LeiChang" be granted access to write to the incubator wiki? I am working on HAWQ Nov report. Thanks! Cheers Lei

Re: wiki access for "LeiChang"

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Lei Chang wrote: > Could "LeiChang" be granted access to write to the incubator wiki? Done. > I am working on HAWQ Nov report. Thanks! Great, looking forward to it! Marvin Humphrey

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

fwiw it's +9 by my count (24->33). Sentry is security, so by my definition that's pretty good. ;-) Patrick On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > All of our projects are primarily in the recruitment business, so it does > concern > me that a project that's

Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:26 PM Ted Dunning wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:17 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > > Actually, 5/5 releases were done without the SGA. I'm not too worried > > about that for a number of reasons. > > > > The missing SGA