Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

And I have to disagree with you Joe. To me, a mandatory RTC policy says “we don’t trust anybody”. Sure, it doesn’t discriminate, but it is also a PITA. One project I mentored uses RTC along with ReviewBoard and mandates that you cannot commit your own work and every commit must be formally

Re: Apache Metrics, Not Apache Humans

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Steve Loughran wrote: > ...The standard way to test this is run a test workload through the system and > verify the results are as expected. For an ASF project, that'd probably be > submitting a patch and seeing what happened Creating

Re: Apache Metrics, Not Apache Humans

> On 16 Nov 2015, at 00:28, toki wrote: > >> >> not about philosophy as different paths lead to the same mountain top > > Somebody failed Buddhist Logic 101. (Not all paths lead to the same > mountain top, even if they appear to start at the base of the same >

Re: [VOTE] Retire Corinthia

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > This is a vote of the IPMC to confirm the decision to retire the podling. > > [ ] +1 to retire Corinthia from the Incubator +1 (binding) Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net Twitter: @jzb http://www.dissociatedpress.net/

Re: Apache Metrics, Not Apache Humans

On 11/15/2015 01:20 PM, Marko Rodriguez wrote: > The Apache Way should be about metrics, not about philosophy as different > paths lead to the same mountain top <--- See! Is that random Buddhist saying > that everyone just "believes" even true? :) Get the human out of the loop! I, for one,

Re: Apache Metrics, Not Apache Humans

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015, at 11:58 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote: > Marko, the metrics approach has been discussed in the past, for instance > http://markmail.org/message/ubx3utli3bnltv75 So far my feeling is that > the ASF prefer to deliver of people to build an opinion of projects rather > than based

RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

[editing subject since the discussion has veered away from Sentry] On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > And I have to disagree with you Joe. To me, a mandatory RTC policy says > “we don’t trust anybody”. Sure, it doesn’t discriminate, but it is also

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

> After writing the above, I started to feel it was familiar and remember a > very similar discussion on hbase-dev last year: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hbase-dev/201508.mbox/%3CCA+RK=_dz+_rzumfwvya0tkvxtk4saeie6pwpgs2mxvsbq8h...@mail.gmail.com%3E - I'd recommend people go check

Re: [VOTE] Apache Apex Malhar Release 3.2.0-incubating (RC2)

+1, see dev vote thread for details of checking I did. Alan. Thomas Weise November 13, 2015 at 21:30 Hi, Please vote on the following Apache Apex Malhar 3.2.0-incubating release candidate. This is the first release of the Malhar library in ASF and it is based on

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Todd Lipcon wrote: >... > 1) You're right, I don't trust anybody to make code changes to a complex > project with zero oversight. I currently work on a project that I > I have always found the "complex project" to merely be an excuse for

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > >... > > > 1) You're right, I don't trust anybody to make code changes to a complex > > project with zero oversight. I currently work on a project that

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > > I have always found the "complex project" to merely be an excuse for > > control/no-trust. > > > > All software is hard. Your project is no more complex than others. > > > > > Having worked on projects in pretty much

[ANNOUNCE] Apache sirona 0.3-incubating released

The Apache Sirona team is pleased to announce the immediate availability of the 0.3-incubating release. The release note can be found here [1]; The source code and binary package can be downloaded from Sirona download page [2]. This release includes several enhancements on the javaagent and path

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > > >... > > > 1) You're right, I don't trust anybody to make code changes to

Re: [VOTE] Apache Apex Malhar Release 3.2.0-incubating (RC2)

+1. Carried over from Apache Apex (incubating) dev list vote. Thanks, Sasha On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Alan Gates wrote: > +1, see dev vote thread for details of checking I did. > > Alan. > > Thomas Weise > November 13, 2015 at 21:30 > Hi, > >

[VOTE] Release Apache Myriad 0.1.0 (incubating)

Hi, The Apache Myriad community has voted on and approved a proposal to release Apache Myriad 0.1.0-incubating. Vote call: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-myriad-dev/201511.mbox/%3CCAGim3%2B2fFCE4LC7HpNPtg5r7_01sFzkfLsyGaLvXcV%2B6f-_CRg%40mail.gmail.com%3E Vote result: 3

[RESULT][VOTE] Apache Apex Malhar Release 3.2.0-incubating (RC2)

The vote passes with 3, +1 binding votes from IPMC members and no -1s: Justin Mclean Hitesh Shah Alan Gates Thanks for voting, we will proceed with the release activities. Thomas On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Sasha Parfenov wrote: > +1. Carried over from Apache

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > ...RTC can be framed as "I don't trust you to do things right"... Or also "I don't trust myself 100% to do things right here and would like systematic reviews of my commits". Like all sharp tools I think RTC has its