Re: PPMC voting new committers

2017-11-04 Thread John D. Ament
I'm of the opinion that if there isn't something broken, we should try to change it. Likewise, if there's a process in place that works well for TLP's I'm extremely hesitant to make something incubator specific. At the same time, I've seen the process break the way Craig's described. Coaching on

Re: PPMC voting new committers

2017-11-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
I'm of two minds on this: on one hand, in the beginning of the incubation process something like this certainly makes sense. Yet, towards the graduation we should really encourage the PPMC to behave more like a TLP PMC. As such they should have an option NOT to follow these somewhat arbitrary

Re: Affiliation vs. individual

2017-11-04 Thread Craig Russell
I agree with what Dave Fisher says. I'd also prefer "unaffiliated" as the term of art to describe a person who contributes to a project on their own time without direction or compensation for such work from any company. Craig > On Nov 4, 2017, at 12:13 PM, Dave Fisher

Re: Affiliation vs. individual

2017-11-04 Thread Ralph Goers
I have participated in a project since it was in the incubator. More than 90% of the committers & PMC members work for the same company. I don’t have a problem with that from the perspective of how the project is run. The issue I see is that there are only a few significant contributors and

Re: Affiliation vs. individual

2017-11-04 Thread John D. Ament
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 3:13 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi Gunnar, > > I think that you present a reasonable scenario. We even allow individuals > to use an alias for their public names. We do want to know the real names > on the ICLA. > > Rather than “private donation” I

Re: Affiliation vs. individual

2017-11-04 Thread jonathon
On 11/04/2017 06:31 PM, Gunnar Tapper wrote: > company name involved. I don't know if it's a large problem but it's a bit > of a contradiction to operate as an individual just to involve your employer > in some of the ASF processes. It all depends upon the specific wording of one's contract

Re: Affiliation vs. individual

2017-11-04 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Gunnar, I think that you present a reasonable scenario. We even allow individuals to use an alias for their public names. We do want to know the real names on the ICLA. Rather than “private donation” I think “unaffiliated” or “” is better. As you understand we want to know affiliation as a

Re: Affiliation vs. individual

2017-11-04 Thread Gunnar Tapper
Hi Dave: I think this situation is covered in paragraph 4 of the ICLA: https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf This doesn't mean that the individual or the company necessary want the company name involved. I don't know if it's a large problem but it's a bit of a contradiction to operate as an

RE: Affiliation vs. individual

2017-11-04 Thread Dave Birdsall
Hi Gunnar, Just a question: Many employers in their employment contracts specify that any software work done by employees, even off hours, is the property of the company. I'm wondering if such situations place a requirement on a private donor to clear outside contributions with their employer?

Affiliation vs. individual

2017-11-04 Thread Gunnar Tapper
Hi, I've discussed this with a few individuals but would like to raise the discussion with a larger group. Situation As contributors to the ASF, we represents ourselves as individuals. Some of us contribute to projects as part of our employment, some of us donate our time privately. Discussion

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-04 Thread Avinash Dongre
I'd like to participate in this as well. Thanks Avinash On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:39 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang wrote: > looks I'm not able to invite you by email in Slack, so please register on > https://the-asf.slack.com and then join our channel #storage-class-memory, > Thanks!

Re: Trafodion: in need of one more mentor

2017-11-04 Thread Pierre Smits
What a pity that nobody from the IPMC or Mentor group is stepping up to help the incubating Apache Trafodion Project in its final stage of of being a project under the Incubator supervision. #OpportunityOfALifetime Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM OFBiz based