Re: TDF/LO, what is the art of the possible?

2011-06-05 Thread André Schnabel
Hi Rob, I don't want to leave this unanswered, although I very likely cannot provide the answers you like to get ... (steering-discuss in cc, so that other SC memebers might agree or disagree) Am 04.06.2011 02:09, schrieb robert_w...@us.ibm.com: If someone on the list from TDF is authorized

Re: "opportunity to reunite the related communities" Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-05 Thread André Schnabel
Hi Jim, Am 03.06.2011 21:35, schrieb Jim Jagielski: Agreed. And that's why I suggested that that would be an excellent initial part of cooperation between the ASF and TDF, where they could provide the build/distribution. Maybe a stupid question, but what should TDF actually build and distrib

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, Am 05.06.2011 20:24, schrieb Simon Phipps: I'm more interested in the list of files from the Hg repository that are NOT in that list. I gotta believe it is non-zero, so what are they, and how much of a problem will that be? I've been discussing this privately with some folk, and while we'

Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-06 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, Am 06.06.2011 21:07, schrieb Sophie Gautier: Hi, On 06/06/2011 21:21, Alexandro Colorado wrote: [...] Thinking LO/OOo is a more desktop oriented app, would make sense to have some participation. Too bad this time the outreach was as strong as the first year with Mozilla. No difficult for

Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-07 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, Am 07.06.2011 17:51, schrieb Manfred A. Reiter: In Switzerland, there is the brand name "Open Office" as well. - So be careful. ;-) Last time I checked (~2 years ago) it was not registered anymore. The name itself is still in use. The current "BACHER EDV Beratung" (in Liechtenstein) too

Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-07 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, Am 07.06.2011 20:30, schrieb Donald Whytock: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: According to Markmail (http://openoffice.markmail.org/) the following 37 openoffice.org mailing lists received more than 365 messages in 2010: Based on the volume here over the last week, ho

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice & LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, can we please just end this futile discussion? I agree, that water flows one direction only. But there needs to be water first to flow in any direction. If there will be enough to establish a flow, can only be seen, once the podling is in place. The risk estimation (will the podling run

Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-08 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, I almost forgot about that, as it is not a summit but may be the earliest date for a meeting. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/DE/QAWochenende2011 So if some of you live rather close to Essen/Germany you may join us there. It would be helpfull to understand / speak German, as it is

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread André Schnabel
Hi Simon, Am 09.06.2011 00:14, schrieb Simon Phipps: Presumably it would also be possible to have a group outside ASF called eg Friends of Open Office ( FOO) that raised money and put it to code development or marketing or whatever. Not saying that is the best way just its a possibility. Do

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, Am 11.06.2011 06:17, schrieb Keith Curtis: I think LibreOffice people are quiet for various reasons: Everyone here votes on his own behalf, for his own reasons and at the time he feels to be the right time. There is currently no need to vote on anybody's behalf (really - nobody here o

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread André Schnabel
-1 (non-binding) Within the discussion several reasons that might support a -1 vote were named, many have been addressed or may be addresed by the podling. I still feel obligated to vote -1 because (even if the podling advances to a Apache TLP) this will be the end of "OpenOffice.org as it is