Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 12:28 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 October 2011 09:09, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:58 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 October 2011 02:02, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: sebb wrote: Christian

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:57 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: Thats exactly what I mean with a mess. Hope it clarifies a bit, b/c I thought about it a pretty long time. I agree that the LHS menu is confusing

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
- 95+ visible links on a webpage visible navigation is a mess for me. It's not much longer than the LHS navigation, and would be a similar length if the non-project entries were removed as previously proposed. It not about length. Its about confusion level. 40 links on the left, 40 on the

Re: [DISCUSS] podling-info.xml (was: Layout change - remove the right table)

2011-10-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: There's been talk on the OpenOffice dev list about a public list of PPMC members.  Now that there's an overall podlings.xml registery, should there perhaps be a standard for something similar at the podling level, that a

Re: [DISCUSS] podling-info.xml (was: Layout change - remove the right table)

2011-10-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: There is always: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo This isn't necessarily the same as the members of the PPMC

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I've not started looking at generating projects/index.xml yet. Reading the past mails shows me you are +1 to commit the layout changes. You are already working on the next steps :-) I'm not keen on losing the RH podling list, if that's what you mean; I think it's useful. You was the only

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:25 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 October 2011 02:08, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 October 2011 00:47, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Updated to use new format and committed. Output is to project-menu.tmp file currently; edit build.xml

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies.  Forgot the status field. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Okay...attached is a very simple podlings.xml, made from the contents of the podlings page. I itemized

Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Any more questions/comments about this proposal? If not, I suggest we start the vote tomorrow. I think we're good. The one thing I'd like to do is asking to add another committer to the roster. Abu Obeida Bakhach abu.obe...@microsoft.com has been following the WP7 part of Phonegap and would

[DISCUSS] Layout change version 2

2011-10-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, based on the recent comments I did some more work on the layout. http://code.grobmeier.de/incubator-draft-v2/ http://code.grobmeier.de/incubator-draft-v2/projects/index.html http://code.grobmeier.de/incubator-draft-v2/projects/ognl.html *

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change version 2

2011-10-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Maurizio Cucchiara mcucchi...@apache.org wrote: Hi Christian, please, see inline comments. On 7 October 2011 12:11, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Changes: - used bootstrap http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ (AL licensed) +1 looks like

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:46 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 October 2011 20:06, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: What about storing the podling names in a table somewhere and using a Javascript fragment to read the table and populate the right-column list?  Pages that include

Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Brian, On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hey Jukka I think there are still some questions around the Weinre source licenses. Some brainstorms going on over naming on the phonegap mailinglist too. What would be normal here? Wait until the start of next week

[directmemory] First steps

2011-10-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, I have setup a status page for DirectMemory: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/directmemory.html @Mentors: please track the progress of the podling there Proposed next step: file an issue and create required resources like mailinglists, jira, wiki. SVN folder has been created by

[DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, currently we use a three column model. On the right side is the search box, links to thanks page and all the projects listed. Everytime we add a new podling all podling pages need to be updated too. I we should remove the third (right) column, because: - the thanks page is already linked on

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
The RH column is relatively narrow, so does not compress the main column too much. Cannot agree here Indeed without it, the main column is too wide on my screen, making it more difficult to read, as the end of the line is so far from the beginning of the next. I plan to work more on the

Re: [VOTE] accept DirectMemory as new Apache Incubator podling

2011-10-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
of growing our community and enabling widespread adoption. == Core Developers == In alphabetical order:  * Christian Grobmeier grobmeier at apache dot org  * Maurizio Cucchiara mcucchiara at apache dot org  * Olivier Lamy olamy at apache dot org  * Raffaele P. Guidi raffaele dot p dot guidi

Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Tim, On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Tim Williams william...@gmail.com wrote: Discussion seems to have waned and with an overall positive vibe - are we ready to call the vote? Simone has volunteered to open a vote, i think he mentioned tomorrow. Cheers Christian Thanks, --tim On Tue,

Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-09-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, amazing. As a PhoneGap user you made my day this early morning. Because I already read some phongap mailinglists, you can sign me up as a mentor, if you like. (grobmeier AT apache ). Btw, I guess you have missed that you need a wiki (required resources) Cheers, Christian On Sat, Oct 1,

Re: [VOTE] Add Any23 to the Apache Incubator

2011-09-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Folks, OK, the proposal period had died now and I'm now calling a formal VOTE on the Any23 proposal located here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Any23Proposal Proposal text copied at the

Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I just saw the plan is to use Confluence for Websites. I think this should not be done anymore, the Apache CMS is preferred instead, or one could use Maven et al. Was the intention to write Wiki instead of Website? Cheers On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Raffaele P. Guidi

Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
this will happen to soon. Anyway, lets wait for a few days until the git discussion have settled down before we vote. Cheers Christian Cheers,    Raffaele On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: I just saw the plan is to use Confluence for Websites. I

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: On 9/21/2011 10:12 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I would like to add this image in addition: http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf Because an image does say more than thousand words... Awesomeness

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: On 9/21/2011 10:12 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I would like to add this image in addition: http://code.grobmeier.de

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
. Board sponsorship happens for 'special' circumstances (like OO), and I don't pretend to understand why it's important. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:28 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: Christian Grobmeier wrote: Surely a podling does not exist until it enters incubation? Beforehand, it is just a proposal to create a podling. So whats the name for Podling before it becomes one? Simply project

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Tim Williams william...@gmail.com wrote: ...it seems useful that one person would step forth and claim to be the champion of bringing a certain project to the ASF and [implicitly]

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
champion |ˈCHampēən| noun 1 a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition, esp. in sports: 2 a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else: The correct usage is of course definition #2 What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks are speaking to the general list on their own. The cause is getting the podling accepted in the incubator, finding mentors and other interested parties. The Champion assists the candidate on their initial submission to a Sponsor.

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 1:21 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 September 2011 11:57, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks are speaking to the general list on their own. The cause is getting the podling accepted

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I would like to add this image in addition: http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf I like it - I'd just say mentors, plural, in the reddish box on the right. Agreed, I have changed it local and wait if there are more comments -Bertrand

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I would like to add this image in addition: http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf Because an image does say more than thousand words... Surely a podling does not exist until it enters incubation? Beforehand, it is just a proposal to create a podling. So whats the name for

Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Si senor Mi piace bere vino e birra On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Raffaele P. Guidi raffaele.p.gu...@gmail.com wrote: Sto inserendo spunti e idee come enhancement nell'issue tracking di github (come ho sempre fatto) e pensavo anche che un gruppo google potrebbe tornare comodo, visto che

Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:24 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: That sounds like a really exciting project to bring to Apache. I'd be happy to volunteer as a mentor if you need one, with the so many existing ASF committors and members part of the project i expect incubation should go

Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
If there is someone in the existing list that want to step-up as mentor, feel free to do it! I suggest that Christian and Olivier are excellent candidates :) oh yes, I will add my name there later too Cheers Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Tue,

Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
- the proposal doesn't have a champion, wouldn't that be you? The main concern is that I'm not a champion :P Anyway if no one else would like to do it, I would be very nice to do it, but I would prefere if more experienced people like Christian or Olivier would do it Actually you (Simone)

Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, I was looking into that: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Sponsor And thought, if an upcoming podling is deciding to become a TLD it should ask the board to sponsor it. Now I have been told from Andrus that this is not the case and usually the Incubator

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
And thought, if an upcoming podling is deciding to become a TLD it should ask the board to sponsor it. Now I have been told from Andrus that this is not the case and usually the Incubator is sponsoring TLD projects. Yes, as I said on the board list I don't remember the board sponsoring

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
it's important. This makes it even more confusing to me. It is really overengineered ;-) On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: I was looking into that: http

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: IMO the champion helps clarify the incubator process up to acceptance of the podling into the incubator. For example the

Refactoring Sponsor Paragraph

2011-09-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, as already mentioned I find this paragraph very confusing: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Sponsor I propose to change it to the text below. Basically I have left out the Sponsoring entity Board, because the board does not sponsor an Podling from the

Re: [VOTE] Change the name of the HMS podling to Ambari.

2011-09-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
hey thats a pretty nice name, +1 Cheers On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Owen O'Malley omal...@apache.org wrote: When I was doing the initial trademark search for HMS, I found that there are a lot of projects (including software) named HMS. It also has the problem of being very bad to search

[hms] HMS status page not build

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, just updated the ognl page and saw that there is a new hms status page checked in, but the generated html is missing. Is is necessary to commit the html page too to be visible on the incubator website. I was not sure if the page is ready yet, so I did not do it - the HMS people may want to

Re: [hms] HMS status page not build

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
of the podling or add it if it is a new one, then run build and then commit both the XML and HTML files :). On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, just updated the ognl page and saw that there is a new hms status page checked in, but the generated html

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] Kalumet for the Apache Incubator

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 Work quickly guys, I need Kalumet. ;-) On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: Hi, I would like to propose Kalumet to be an Apache Incubator project. Kalumet is a project for deploying applications and manage resources in J2EE environments. Here's a link

Software grants

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, can I look somehow (I am member too) in some kind of archive with the software grants or in a list which grants have been received? I was looking at one of my podlings (Zeta) and saw the copyright sections was not ticked. I would now like to check if EZ has sent it. I am not aware I could

[RESULT] [vote] Graduate OGNL as a subproject to Apache Commons

2011-08-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Dear all, this vote has passed with 6 +1, 4 of them binding: Chris Mattmann Martijn Dashorst Christian Grobmeier Robert Donkin Craig Russel * Maurizio Cucchiara * Thanks to all who voted! OGNL will perform the next steps: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#subproject Cheers

Re: [RESULT] [vote] Graduate OGNL as a subproject to Apache Commons

2011-08-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:57 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 August 2011 13:38, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, this vote has passed with 6 +1, 4 of them binding: Chris Mattmann Martijn Dashorst Christian Grobmeier Robert Donkin Craig Russel * I assume

Branding requirements for podlings

2011-08-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, all ASF project need to be conform with the branding requirements. Therefore I think it should be an exit criteria to implement this requirements. To track that, I would like to add a new item on the template in section Copyright, like: Does the projects website reflect the ASF wide

Re: [OGNL] Stepping down

2011-08-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Thanks Antonio for letting us know. I am sorry you have no cycles to join up, but maybe you will come back at later point in time. I will remove you from the committer list when the vote is over. Cheers! Christian On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Antonio Petrelli antonio.petre...@gmail.com

[vote] Graduate OGNL as a subproject to Apache Commons

2011-08-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Dear all, the Commons Community and the OGNL Community (which is overlapping heavily) would like to see OGNL graduated. We don't see any risks in graduating OGNL. Most of the OGNL committers are already ASF committers, or even at Commons. Code grants etc are all fine. OGNL has not made a release

Re: Podlings needing copyright sign-off

2011-08-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Have you used https? On Thursday, August 25, 2011, Richard Frovarp rfrov...@apache.org wrote: On 08/21/2011 03:38 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: Etch and Tashi are signed off. Droids (seems the easiest one to sign off on) and Olio (likely to be retired) left from 2008 inductees. 2009 list

Re: Websites of retired podlings (was Re: Retired podlings with RW SVN access)

2011-08-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Another option which might be cleaner and less burdensome to administer would be to create a boilerplate Retired Podling static html page which would replace the website for any podling which does not graduate.  This page would give a brief explanation of the project's history and status and

Re: [wave] Code grant and IP

2011-08-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
userid - mine is w...@apache.org == a project name Apache Wave? Not that I have noticed any spam coming to me. Regards, Dave On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hi Dan, thanks. I have updated the status page for wave to reflect this. Cheers Christian On Fri, Aug 19

Add committer to asf-authorization-template

2011-08-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
anybody with write access update the auth file and add leadpipe to the OGNL podling please? Thanks! Christian -- Forwarded message -- From: Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:53 PM Subject: Authorization file not on LDAP? To: general

Re: Add committer to asf-authorization-template

2011-08-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Thanks Stefan! On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: On 2011-08-15, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Can anybody with write access update the auth file and add leadpipe to the OGNL podling please? Done Stefan

Re: Add committer to asf-authorization-template

2011-08-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
It looks like someone needs to correct the guide you were following ... Ah that explains so much. Thanks Most projects have a mentor who can do it, but not all mentors can. Any chance you could edit whichever doc you followed? Yes, just updated with the phrase you send Can anybody with

Lock on logging site

2011-08-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, there is a lock on /www/logging.apache.org I can't remove: -rw-rw-r-- 1 carnold logging 0 Jun 7 2010 lock My intention is to update the site to reflect the new branding requirements, as already pre warned. Curt, could you remove your lock (or run svn udpate ;-)) Cheers!

Re: Apache Rat TLP...?

2011-08-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 for TLD My reason: No suitable TLP exists which is build system and language agnostic. And I think RAT is an attractive, little project. With time, it will become very useful to others. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: Rat is

Re: [VOTE] Increased process on CLA item

2011-08-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
3) Existing podlings are grandfathered in until the end of the year, at which point they will have to start reporting monthly if they have not completed the item. Sorry I don't understand this point :). Would you please explain ? I think its meant like: All incubator projects, which were

Re: [VOTE] Increased process on CLA item

2011-08-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
1) The podling are to list the individuals/entities who need to grant rights for any existing software moving to the ASF. These may be either ICLAs or Software Grants. [Ideally this would be listed, or at least described, in the proposals]. Good idea, we should update the proposal template

Re: Last Bluesky report

2011-08-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
* Keep website or remove? As the source code will be deleted, I do not see a reason to keep the website. For reasons to keep history we have always have the status page. I am for removing it Christian Hen On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi

Re: Searching volunteer

2011-07-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Yes, I don't have community, so I hoped to find it here. BTW missing community does not mean that libraries are useless. Apache is not a library collection foundation, its all around community here Imagero is still commercial library and is used by few big companies like Agenzia Ansa. I

Re: [VOTE] Accept ODF Toolkit for Incubation

2011-07-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: *** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE] As the discussions on the ODF Toolkit threads seem to be winding down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept the ODF Toolkit as an Apache

guide to retirement

2011-07-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, after there were no additions to the retirement guide, I added it to the main navigation. May it be of help Cheers, Christian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands,

Authorization file not on LDAP?

2011-07-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, Luke Blanshard (leadpipe) is only in the incubator group, but he should be also in the ongl group. According to: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html After root creates the new account, a Mentor updates the authorization file to add the new committer to both the committer-? section

Re: *** Missing reports - POST IMMEDIATELY!

2011-07-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Noel, apologies, I have added it now for OGNL. To be honest, it was a mentor failure - the project has written its report and ask mentors to sign it and add it to the wiki. And we mentors all forgot. Cheers Christian On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:

Re: [RESULT] Release Apache log4php 2.1.0 (RC2)

2011-07-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
vote exists, of which I was not aware: Yoav Shapira +1 (non binding) The correct list of votes is: * Christian Grobmeier +1 * Scott Deboy +1 * Ivan Habunek +1 * Vladimir Gorej +1 (non binding) * Yoav Shapira +1 (non binding) Sorry for the mixup. Best regards, Ivan On 12 July

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-07-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
If bluesky project was rejected by ASF? would we continue to use SVN to upload our codes? Not the ASF SVN server. But you can use for example google code to host bluesky and upload to there svn servers: http://code.google.com/hosting/ 2011/7/6 Bernd Fondermann

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-07-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ore more official Apache project. To which project could Bluesky demonstrate affinity? Christian On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: Can they upload it to Apache-Extras if it still exists ? On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Christian Grobmeier

Re: [VOTE] Retire ALOIS podling

2011-07-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
on file (documents/grants/imsec-alois.pdf) from IMSEC GmbH for ALOIS (code and all documentation) dated 4-Oct-2010. This plus some elbow grease should allow a mentor to definitively establish provenance of the code... Craig On Jul 5, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Do you have any

Re: Project shutdown guide?

2011-07-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: Currently I'd describe it as: http://attic.apache.org/process.html So, is a failed incubation project going into the attic? I don't think so. In addition i don't think board needs to approve that, this is incubator

Retired vs dormant

2011-07-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Here are to sections, retired and dormant: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html What is the actual difference between these two? I think we should only have one term and one section, be it retired or dormant. Cheers Christian

Re: [VOTE] Retire ALOIS podling

2011-07-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Do you have any tipps how I can make sure the source is covered by the CLAs? As I understood we just have the initial import in SVN. All committers have CLAs on file. Is that enough? It depends on who the copyright owners/licensees of the original import were

Re: [VOTE] Retire ALOIS podling

2011-07-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
The work you did to research and verify this, is the grease I was talking about. Therefore I consider this code is fine to stay in SVN. I really don't know what other kinds of elbow grease I can apply That's it for me. I have no problems with this code staying around in case anyone in

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache log4php 2.1.0 (RC2)

2011-07-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Friendly reminder - we still need one more +1 from a PMC for this release. If somebody has the time to check it out, please feel free :-) Thanks in advance! Christian On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Ivan Habunek ivan.habu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, It is my pleasure to announce the

Re: [VOTE] Retire ALOIS podling

2011-07-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Do you have any tipps how I can make sure the source is covered by the CLAs? As I understood we just have the initial import in SVN. All committers have CLAs on file. Is that enough? It depends on who the copyright owners/licensees of the original import were. Identify that set, then remove

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-07-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: I would support a one month wait. No more. They've had a long time. One month is long enough to show seriousness. With no movement in that time, a swift vote can close the project down. +1 Christian Upayavira On Fri, 01

Re: [VOTE] Retire ALOIS podling

2011-07-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
sure the source is covered by the CLAs? As I understood we just have the initial import in SVN. All committers have CLAs on file. Is that enough? Cheers, Christian ? Hen On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to close this vote with +1

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I believe projects from  school could also rock in Apache as well. You can look down up on us but you can't deny others. This is not the point. The point is, if you have contributors who have no apache id, they a) need to sign an ICLA b) need to create an Jira issue and attach an svn diff

Re: [VOTE] Retire ALOIS podling

2011-06-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I would like to close this vote with +1 from: Betrand Delacretaz Alan Cabrera Henri Yandell Mohamma Nour El-Din Noel Bergman Christian Grobmeier I will try to do the necessary retirement steps as soon as I can. Thanks for your time! Christian On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Christian

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hence the need for people to download KEYS files from an *.apache.org domain that we do control. Putting KEYS in a distribution might cause people to use them instead of getting them from a trusted source, and that's bad. The keys should be included in the web of trust, so it shouldn't

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
we copy a KEYS file into that directory upon succesful VOTE of the release artifacts (which also include the KEYS file). Perhaps, but the point we're getting at was explicitly stated by Benson, The goal here is to allow and encourage consumers to independently verify signatures.  That calls

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I would like to know how many signing keys are actually trusted which have been used for our releases. Quite a few, see http://people.apache.org/~henkp/trust/apache.html Interesting - thanks for the link. So, 53% of our software is signed with untrusted keys. I have expected 70% untrusted

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Christian Grobmeier wrote on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:20:13 +0200: we copy a KEYS file into that directory upon succesful VOTE of the release artifacts (which also include the KEYS file). Perhaps, but the point

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:49 AM, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote: Hi everyone, this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and developers are

Fwd: [VOTE] Release Apache log4php 2.1.0

2011-06-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
PMCs - we are currently voting on the next log4php release (see below). Please take yourself a few minutes and participate in the vote. I am - unfortunately - the only PMC involved in log4php, so we need your voices Cheers Christian -- Forwarded message -- From: Ivan Habunek

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
It seems to me to be a bad idea to distribute keys with releases. +1 And don't we already have some ASF-wide policy for managing keys? I don't know if there is a policy, but I recently found this: http://people.apache.org/foaf/index.html PGP keys may additionally be added to your profile on

Re: please subscribe me

2011-06-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
you need to write to general-subscr...@incubator.apache.org to subscribe On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 2:34 AM, Joe Key joeandrew...@gmail.com wrote: -- Joe Andrew Key (Andy) - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

[VOTE] Retire ALOIS podling

2011-06-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, as already mentioned last week, the ALOIS project is dead and it seems there is no way to recover in near future (or even later). The developers told me in a private message in March that they cannot continue due to personal reasons. It seem this has become truth. I have set up a vote on

[alois] Incubation failed?

2011-06-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi all, shortly after the last report in March one of the Alois-Devs contacted me and told me, that there will be no further development on the project because of some personal trouble and changes to the company IMSEC (inventor of alois). Even prior march there were only slow steps to observe -

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Cooper +1 dims         Davanum Srinivas +1 dirkx        Dirk-Willem van Gulik +1 elecharny    Emmanuel Lecharny -0 gnodet       Guillaume Nodet +1 grobmeier    Christian Grobmeier +1 gstein       Greg Stein +1 jim          Jim Jagielski +1 joes         Joe Schaefer +1 jukka        Jukka

[OpenOffice] Status page

2011-06-13 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I just added the incubator status page. Due to the high number of committers, would it be ok to add the committer names once the (iclas accounts) are fine? Would like to avoid names in the list, who have thought to step up, but then declined for some reason later. I am referring to the project

Re: *** Monthly reports missing ...

2011-06-13 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Wave is already in the making - seems it has just been forgotten to add to the wiki. I pinged them On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: I know that it is early (as in the earliest that the meeting could possibly happen), but we're late.  BeanValidation,

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Am 12.06.2011 01:20, schrieb Henri Yandell: It is a large project; but so what? I thought Harmony had no chance of being coded and that went very quickly, showing how well maximum openness can walk the path between corporate, startup and hobby needs. You think Apache Harmony is a comparable

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Ketih, I think Italo is incorrect saying voting no would be a defeat for free software. It is an honest mistake. People don't know what else could happen, because alternatives are not being discussed. They have been discussed. Even at this list. We have discussed to say no to OOo at the ASF.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I think Italo is incorrect saying voting no would be a defeat for free software. It is an honest mistake. People don't know what else could happen, because alternatives are not being discussed. They have been discussed. Even at this list. We have discussed to say no to OOo at the ASF. We

Re: Vote plans for OOo proposal

2011-06-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
There are still people signing up as initial committers. Is it a sign to wait a bit longer with the vote? On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: First some current stats: 73 committers. 18 currently have iclas on file. 29 have openoffice.org email

Re: Vote plans for OOo proposal

2011-06-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Is it a sign to wait a bit longer with the vote? Deadlines are good at inciting action.  :-) There's no problem with them joining later, is it? Nope. Its just a bit more complicated as they need to get voted in. I intend to proceed as planned. Fine for me. - Sam Ruby

Re: Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Yes, me too. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot to add (binding) to my +1, but I don't think I'm alone. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:12 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 6/10/2011 12:04 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:

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