Thanks for your input, Julian and Bertrand!
Unless there's anything else that needs to be discussed, I guess we can
close this [DISCUSS] thread, start a vote to graduate Hop without Ricardo
on the PMC, and vote him in after graduation.
Regards,
Bart
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 9:14 PM Julian Hyde
Thanks for doing the research, Bertrand. That thread describes a case (from
2019) that is virtually identical to this one.
I recommend Hop does the same as that case: remove that person’s name from the
resolution, and vote them in as a PMC member after graduating. Since the effect
is the same,
Hi,
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:56 PM Julian Hyde wrote:
> ...Let’s just assume that it’s OK to include people with non-Apache email
> addresses in the graduation resolution...
I don't think that's the case, in previous similar cases Board members
asked for the resolutions to be modified to
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:50 AM, sebb wrote:
>
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 04:58, Julian Hyde wrote:
>>
>>
>> Is it possible to give someone an Apache id even if though are not a
>> committer or PMC member of any project? Maybe that would solve some of the
>> tooling issues.
>
> You will
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 04:58, Julian Hyde wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 26, 2021, at 6:05 AM, sebb wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 12:06, Matt Casters
> > mailto:matt.cast...@neo4j.com.invalid>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> As for Ricardo: he is indeed not a committer (yet) but an advisor to the
> >>
> On Nov 26, 2021, at 6:05 AM, sebb wrote:
>
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 12:06, Matt Casters
> mailto:matt.cast...@neo4j.com.invalid>>
> wrote:
>
>> As for Ricardo: he is indeed not a committer (yet) but an advisor to the
>> project. His insights as an educator have been very valuable and is
Do I get it correctly that the announcements on the users and dev lists are
mainly advice for future releases?
There's not a lot we can do about previous releases at this point, there
doesn't seem to be any documentation about release announcements, and this
feedback was never brought up when we
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 14:35, Matt Casters
wrote:
>
> We're simply following the advice given here and by our mentors. We didn't
> send an announcement mail in the beginning and then we did based on your
> valuable feedback. If we need to copy the announcement of our releases to
> other
We're simply following the advice given here and by our mentors. We didn't
send an announcement mail in the beginning and then we did based on your
valuable feedback. If we need to copy the announcement of our releases to
other mailing lists we can easily do so.
The reason why it's hard to
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 12:06, Matt Casters
wrote:
>
> Hi Sebb,
>
> Google found the announcement mails, for example [1] and [2].
Not sure how I missed those.
However, AFAICT they were not announced on general@incubator nor on
any of the podling lists.
> As for Ricardo: he is indeed not a
Hi Sebb,
Google found the announcement mails, for example [1] and [2].
As for Ricardo: he is indeed not a committer (yet) but an advisor to the
project. His insights as an educator have been very valuable and is in the
process of becoming a committer. Our mentor Julian informed us that (and I
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 07:15, Bart Maertens wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> After a discussion[1] with and vote by[2] the Hop community, we believe
> Apache Hop (Incubating) is ready
> to graduate as a TLP, and we'd like to bring it up in discussion with the
> IPMC.
>
> The Hop community achievements
Hi All,
After a discussion[1] with and vote by[2] the Hop community, we believe
Apache Hop (Incubating) is ready
to graduate as a TLP, and we'd like to bring it up in discussion with the
IPMC.
The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in September
2020:
- close to 3200
Hi Justin, All,
The server mentioned as [1] was an old test server that has been shut down.
The other issues mentioned earlier in this thread have been taken care of
as well.
We'll start a discussion about (P)PMC membership, do a community vote on
the graduation and start a new [DISCUSS] thread
Hi,
I look a look at the project and noticed some thing re the PMC makeup:
- Some of your proposed PMC members are existing PPMC member but are not signed
up to the project private mailing list
- The project has not voted any PPMC members.
- Could some of the existing committers be consider PMC
Hi Julian, All,
The older release artifacts[1] are removed and the download page[2] is
updated. Only the latest 1.0 release is still available.
The missing hop.yml file[3] has been added.
We'll discuss and update the resolution description over the next few days.
We skipped the community vote
I agree with Craig; the description of the project in the resolution definitely
needs some work.
I noticed that the project has not held formal vote for graduation on dev@hop.
I’ll remind the project that they need to have that vote before proceeding to a
vote on general@incubator.
Julian
>
Hi,
I'd strongly suggest that you improve the wording of the resolution "related to
short for the Hop Orchestration Platform". It's barely parseable.
Perhaps make it simpler by removing the entire text after "related to short for
the Hop Orchestration Platform...easily used by other software"
I don’t think the infractions noted by Sebb affect Hop’s readiness to graduate.
In a well-running project those would be raised on the dev list and easily
resolved.
Hop is a well-running project with an open and active community. I have been
one of its mentors through Incubation. It is ready
On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 12:51, sebb wrote:
> There is a minor issue with the website:
> https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/hop
> Whimsy reports some Licensing issues:
> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/hop#podlingStatus
>
>
This is presumably caused by a missing yml file at:
Hi Seb,
It's because we have both the https://www.apache.org/licenses/ and
https://apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 on our website.
In this case we believe it should be green, and the check is not working
100% in our case.
Cheers,
Hans
On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 13:51, sebb wrote:
> There is a
There is a minor issue with the website:
https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/hop
Whimsy reports some Licensing issues:
https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/hop#podlingStatus
On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 12:44, Calvin Kirs wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a self-assessment for Hop Graduation Maturity
Hi,
Is there a self-assessment for Hop Graduation Maturity Assessment？ help the
decision (of the mentors, community, Incubator PMC, and ASF Board of
Directors) discussion to graduate it as a top-level Apache project.
sebb 于2021年10月15日周五 下午6:34写道：
> The download area has several old releases;
The download area has several old releases; these should be removed and the
download page updated.
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/hop/
Although there are release Announce emails on the general announce@a.o
list, I could not find any such announcements on the Hop dev or user
Hi All,
After a discussion with the community[1], we believe Apache Hop (Incubating) is
ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to bring it up in discussion with
the IPMC.
The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in September
2020:
- over 3000 commits by 27
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