Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-24 Thread Nick Pentreath
Hi everyone I just want to make it clear that my suggestion was in no way some sort of attempt to hijack the project or push a corporate agenda. For me personally, I have not been directly involved in PredictionIO, that is true. I have however spent the past 3 years prior to joining IBM building

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-21 Thread Pat Ferrel
Not proposing including code we don’t own, proposing that we include the mechanism for contribution. The reason I bring this up is that the only documented way to get a template is to download it from the Gallery. But I agree it can be worked out during incubation. Also asking if Salesforce

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-21 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Funny quote of the day at a conference in Beijing; "The best way to predict the future is to create it." ;-) Cheers Niclas On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 1:51 AM, Andrew Purtell wrote: > ​​The proposal excludes the Template Gallery from inclusion in the initial > software grant

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
​​The proposal excludes the Template Gallery from inclusion in the initial software grant and sets it up as an issue for the podling to tackle during incubation. "The PredictionIO community also maintains a​ ​Template Gallery, a place to publish and download (free or proprietary) engine templates

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-20 Thread Pat Ferrel
+1 for the current committer list, but please, anyone interested get familiar, we will need more help soon! Also I’d like to bring up the template gallery again. Plugins may be problematic in other projects but pio does nothing of interest *without* a template. There are some examples in the

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-20 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Thanks! That takes care of my concerns as well. Lets go ahead with the vote on the current proposal. Thanks, Roman. On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Suneel Marthi wrote: > The current list is good to go and includes all (both present and former) > PIO folks. > I am fine with

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-20 Thread Suneel Marthi
The current list is good to go and includes all (both present and former) PIO folks. I am fine with going for Voting with the present list. +1 On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Andrew Purtell wrote: > The current list of initial committers was that provided me by the >

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
The current list of initial committers was that provided me by the PredictionIO folks so I have every reason to believe they all have a stake at entering incubation. It's totally fine with me if we stick to that list. I am just trying to facilitate the fairest process possible. On Friday, May

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-20 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Suneel Marthi wrote: > I definitely have concerns about too many folks becoming initial committers > and bringing their own corporate agendas to this project. > > I suggest that first we vote PIO into incubator then bring in those less >

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-20 Thread Pat Ferrel
>> Kind regards >> Nick >> mln...@apache.org >> >> >> >>> >>> ------ Forwarded message -- >>> From: Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> >>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <g

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-19 Thread Suneel Marthi
d message -- > > > From: Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> > > > To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> > > > Cc: > > > Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 13:41:38 -0700 > > > Subject: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO inc

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-19 Thread Andrew Purtell
; > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> > > To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> > > Cc: > > Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 13:41:38 -0700 > > Subject: [DISCUSS] Predic

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-17 Thread Pat Ferrel
I’d like to see Apache find a way to sponsor the template gallery. The current site collects data and inclusion is controlled by Salesforce I believe. I guess there is nothing wrong with that but it would be great to have a free open collection of templates as the Apache blessed method of

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-17 Thread Debo Dutta (dedutta)
Thx a lot Henry. Would love to. Sent from my iPhone > On May 17, 2016, at 2:19 PM, Henry Saputra wrote: > > You are welcome, and great to have you as one of mentors for PredictionIO > polling. > > Should be a fun project to be part of =) > > - Henry > >> On Tue,

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-17 Thread Simon Chan
nd regards > >Nick > >mln...@apache.org > > > > > > > >> > >> -- Forwarded message ------ > >> From: Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> > >> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> >

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-17 Thread Henry Saputra
You are welcome, and great to have you as one of mentors for PredictionIO polling. Should be a fun project to be part of =) - Henry On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Suneel Marthi wrote: > Thanks Henry > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Henry Saputra

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-17 Thread Suneel Marthi
Thanks Henry On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Henry Saputra wrote: > As mentor, you will have karma to commit to the source repository. > > As you probably know, the initial committers and mentors will form the > initial PPMCs for the podling. > Hopefully for day to day

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-17 Thread Henry Saputra
As mentor, you will have karma to commit to the source repository. As you probably know, the initial committers and mentors will form the initial PPMCs for the podling. Hopefully for day to day operations you should not need to have distinction of committer vs mentors anymore. You do not have to

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-17 Thread Debo Dutta (dedutta)
committers, if that is agreeable. > >Kind regards >Nick >mln...@apache.org > > > >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> >> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.o

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-17 Thread Suneel Marthi
Thanks for having me as a mentor for PIO. I would like to be added to the initial list of committers and am looking to actively participate in the development too. I am not sure if my being a mentor automatically grants me the 'commit' karma. Its already been suggested earlier in this thread by

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-17 Thread Henry Saputra
Cool, this will make code grant process to be easier =) The initial committers and mentors look great. I am sure more will come as contributions start pouring in to the project. Looking forward for the VOTE thread soon. - Henry On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Simon Chan

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-17 Thread Nick Pentreath
Cc: > Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 13:41:38 -0700 > Subject: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal > Greetings, > > It is my pleasure to > ​ ​ > propose the PredictionIO project for incubation at the Apache Software > Foundation. > ​ ​ > PredictionIO is a > ​ popular​

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-16 Thread Andrew Purtell
The process for transferring the rights to the name PredictionIO has started at Salesforce. I'm optimistic but can't guarantee an outcome as I am not empowered to make such a decision wearing any hat. I think we can proceed with the proposal using the PredictionIO mark conditionally as the desired

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-16 Thread Andrew Purtell
I am just waiting on an accept from Alex to be in the initial committers list and will then update the proposal on the wiki. On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Simon Chan wrote: > Yes, it includes everyone who previously contributed code from PredictionIO > before the

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-16 Thread Simon Chan
Yes, it includes everyone who previously contributed code from PredictionIO before the acquisition and still want to be involved in the project. We may have missed "Alex Merritt", going to add him to the list soon. Simon On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Suneel Marthi

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-16 Thread Suneel Marthi
I do have a question about the proposed list of committers. Does the list also include all of those folks who were with PredictionIO (and had contributed to the project) and then chose to leave when PIO was acquired by Salesforce? On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-16 Thread Suneel Marthi
+1 to integrating with Beam On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi, > > I second Roman here. > > Using Beam to abstract the execution environment would provide a very > flexible architecture for PredictionIO. > > It would benefit for both

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-16 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
By the way, we have some discussion about integrating Zeppelin with Beam ;) Regards JB On 05/15/2016 02:32 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: Super excited to see this proposal! This will finally allow us to have an ASF managed backend for next generation data-driven apps that I see emerging quite

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-16 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi, I second Roman here. Using Beam to abstract the execution environment would provide a very flexible architecture for PredictionIO. It would benefit for both projects. Regards JB On 05/15/2016 02:32 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: Super excited to see this proposal! This will finally allow

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-15 Thread Henry Saputra
Ah sorry, I missed that statement from the proposal. Thanks for the reply, Simon. I think it would be better to make it separate from the "core" PredictionIO. I have seen it become bit of problem in term of contributions and for similar projects having such libraries such as Zeppellin, NiFi,

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-15 Thread Simon Chan
Great question, Henry. This is the main issue we are not 100% sure how to handle yet. We put this in the proposal: "The PredictionIO community also maintains a Template Gallery, a place to publish and download (free or proprietary) engine templates for different types of machine learning

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-15 Thread John D. Ament
I just want to confirm, Salesforce plans to transfer the rights to the name "PredictionIO" to the ASF? Or is the podling expected to take a new name? John On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 4:42 PM Andrew Purtell wrote: > Greetings, > > It is my pleasure to > ​ ​ > propose the

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-15 Thread Henry Saputra
This is great news! One question, what would happen with the template gallery repository? Will it be moved under ASF too or will it be maintained as separate repo? - Henry On Friday, May 13, 2016, Andrew Purtell wrote: > Greetings, > > It is my pleasure to > ​ ​ >

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-14 Thread Simon Chan
Thanks Roman. 1. Apache Beam looks promising. I agree it can potentially be extremely useful in, for example, Data Preparator of DASE-architecture engine of PredictionIO so it can leverage Spark/Flink/Google Dataflow. Look forward to hearing more about it. 2. The integration with Apache

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-14 Thread Andrew Purtell
Yikes, apologies for the formatting. It looked fine in Gmail when I sent it alas. I must let the proposers respond to the technical questions but I think I can make the general observation that would-be contributors proposing and performing work on new and better Apache ecosystem integrations

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-14 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Super excited to see this proposal! This will finally allow us to have an ASF managed backend for next generation data-driven apps that I see emerging quite rapidly. The proposal looks great to me (although I'd recommend calling Scala as an implementation language more prominently since it may

[DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-13 Thread Andrew Purtell
Greetings, It is my pleasure to ​ ​ propose the PredictionIO project for incubation at the Apache Software Foundation. ​ ​ PredictionIO is a ​ popular​ open ​ ​ source Machine Learning Server built on top of a state-of-the-art open source stack, including several Apache technologies, that ​ ​