Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation

2017-05-11 Thread Deron Eriksson
John and Luciano, I have also updated master to remove the screen captures with a comment to clear future screen capture usage in ASF releases with ASF legal. https://github.com/apache/incubator-systemml/commit/5c9291b52bec46803e905b0c8cf82959e2a35e7c Deron On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 6:39 AM,

Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation

2017-05-11 Thread Luciano Resende
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 3:31 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > Bertrand, > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:31 AM Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:59 PM, John D. Ament > > wrote: > > >

Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation

2017-05-11 Thread John D. Ament
Bertrand, On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:31 AM Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > Hi John, > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:59 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > ...While there is > > no perfect release, we do expect all licensing issues to be cleared up by > >

Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation

2017-05-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi John, On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:59 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > ...While there is > no perfect release, we do expect all licensing issues to be cleared up by > the time they graduate, and the current release indicates they are not... Does this mean you are opposed to

Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation

2017-05-09 Thread John D. Ament
On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 6:26 PM Henri Yandell wrote: > +1. Sounds like it's passed time to discuss graduation. > > There's no such thing as a perfect release, and the measure of a community > is not its ability to make a perfect release, but its ability to deal with, > and

Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation

2017-05-09 Thread Henry Saputra
+1 to that The community has proven the ability to run the project in the Apache way and has been very open and responsive to resolve issues raised from IPMC. - Henry On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 3:26 PM Henri Yandell wrote: > +1. Sounds like it's passed time to discuss

Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation

2017-05-06 Thread Henri Yandell
+1. Sounds like it's passed time to discuss graduation. There's no such thing as a perfect release, and the measure of a community is not its ability to make a perfect release, but its ability to deal with, and learn from, a release issue. Hen On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 11:04 Luciano Resende

Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation

2017-05-06 Thread Luciano Resende
John, Although the latest release had one small license issue due to recent changes, I don't consider that a blocking for graduation, particularly when we look at the past couple releases that passed without any issues trough IPMC. SystemML 0.12 release candidate vote at General

Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation

2017-05-06 Thread John D. Ament
Luciano, I suspect from a community standpoint SystemML is ready to go. I'm concerned about their ability to create ASF compliant releases. Their current release under vote is problematic, specifically the contents of the LICENSE file. I would like to see the podling leave the incubator with a

[DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation

2017-05-05 Thread Luciano Resende
Apache SystemML has been under incubation since November 2015 and so far the project has accomplished 5 official Apache Releases, voted 4 new committers/PPMC members and has welcomed a new mentor. The community also continues to evangelize the project at universities, blog posts, public webcasts