Jason,
Although, we keep trying to point out that OBR != p2, you seem to keep
missing that point.
OBR is a simple repository model and API for accessing it, that's all it
is...it is not a provisioning system. As such, OBR has been done for a
long time. All other functionality should be
On 6-Apr-09, at 12:33 AM, Richard S. Hall wrote:
Jason,
Although, we keep trying to point out that OBR != p2, you seem to
keep missing that point.
The argument is not lost on me. That they are not that far apart
insofar as providing a repository system with an API to retrieve and
Hello Jason,
On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:09 , Jason van Zyl wrote:
Equinox p2 was designed to replace the aging Update Manager in
Eclipse. It focusses on installing Eclipse-based applications from
scratch and updating them and can be extended to manage other types
of artifacts. If you look at the
I know the OBR specification was written years ago, and I'm aware
Felix shipped with an implementation of it. As I said Oleg and I
looked at it. I honestly just found p2 more useful and couldn't find
any real examples of anyone using OBR.
I don't know what happened in OSGi land and I
On 5-Apr-09, at 2:46 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
Hello Jason,
On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:09 , Jason van Zyl wrote:
Equinox p2 was designed to replace the aging Update Manager in
Eclipse. It focusses on installing Eclipse-based applications from
scratch and updating them and can be extended to
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Jason van Zyl jvan...@sonatype.com wrote:
On 5-Apr-09, at 2:46 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
Hello Jason,
On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:09 , Jason van Zyl wrote:
Equinox p2 was designed to replace the aging Update Manager in
Eclipse. It focusses on installing
I'm suggesting that you two groups figure out how to work together on
a very hard problem.
I'm also saying that you are unlikely to out do the 5 man years in p2
already.
As I said in the previous email if you want to make a competing system
that's fine. But don't couch the proposal as
I'm not sure I understand what your problem with this proposal is
exactly but I sure would like to. Let me try to get some things clear
in order to be able to get to the bottom of this. Don't let any
previous comments side-track you and lets try to focus on the
proposal:
I don't see where the
I have no problem with it per se. You guys should go for it. It's your
effort and I'm not trying stop you but only draw some attention to the
surrounding environment. I think the proposal should attempt to be a
little more clear about but that's was a request not something I was
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Jason van Zyl jvan...@sonatype.com wrote:
As I said in the previous email if you want to make a competing system
that's fine. But don't couch the proposal as something that's new and hasn't
been addressed elsewhere because it has.
Jason,
I don't know why you
There's nothing for me to be insincere about. Beyond providing some
context for most people that don't know I am not going to expend any
effort on implementation, but I would be happy to talk about the
problem of provisioning which is why I gave a +1. So it's in the hands
of those that
Hello Bertrand,
On Apr 3, 2009, at 13:33 , Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
...The full proposal can be found on the wiki at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AceProposal...
Thanks for the proposal, and +1 for incubation.
Thanks for your support!
I would suggest having just a dev list at the
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Marcel Offermans
marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote:
Hello all,
I would like to formally present the incubator proposal for Apache Ace, a
software distribution framework based on OSGi that allows you to manage and
distribute artifacts, like e.g. software
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Marcel Offermans
marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote:
Hello all,
I would like to formally present the incubator proposal for Apache Ace, a
software distribution framework based on OSGi that allows you to manage and
distribute artifacts, like e.g. software
Hello Martin,
On Apr 4, 2009, at 20:39 , Martin Cooper wrote:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Marcel Offermans
marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote:
Hello all,
I would like to formally present the incubator proposal for Apache
Ace, a
software distribution framework based on OSGi that
On 4-Apr-09, at 12:30 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
Hello Martin,
On Apr 4, 2009, at 20:39 , Martin Cooper wrote:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Marcel Offermans
marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote:
Hello all,
I would like to formally present the incubator proposal for Apache
Ace, a
+1
- richard
On 4/2/09 3:52 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
Hello all,
I would like to formally present the incubator proposal for Apache
Ace, a software distribution framework based on OSGi that allows you
to manage and distribute artifacts, like e.g. software components.
The full proposal
On 4/4/09 7:09 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
On 4-Apr-09, at 12:30 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
Hello Martin,
On Apr 4, 2009, at 20:39 , Martin Cooper wrote:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Marcel Offermans
marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote:
Hello all,
I would like to formally present the
Hi Marcel,
...The full proposal can be found on the wiki at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AceProposal...
Thanks for the proposal, and +1 for incubation.
I would suggest having just a dev list at the beginning, and maybe add
a user list only at the end of incubation. With a relatively
Hello all,
I would like to formally present the incubator proposal for Apache
Ace, a software distribution framework based on OSGi that allows you
to manage and distribute artifacts, like e.g. software components.
The full proposal can be found on the wiki at:
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