Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-15 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Michael Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd also point out that there are free SDKs and Express versions of most of the Microsoft development tools [1], targeted at non-commercial developers. See [2] for a neutral discussion of what has been left out of

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-15 Thread Senaka Fernando
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Michael Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd also point out that there are free SDKs and Express versions of most of the Microsoft development tools [1], targeted at

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-15 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Senaka Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Michael Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd also point out that there are free SDKs and Express

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-13 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On 11/12/08, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...The full proposal is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal.. That says future contributions could depend on proprietary systems such as

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-13 Thread Paul Fremantle
Robert Excellent points: ...The full proposal is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal.. That says future contributions could depend on proprietary systems such as Microsoft .Net or commercial JEE servers, which IIUC means that some parts of Stonehenge might not be

RE: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-13 Thread Michael Champion
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:15 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge 3. payment for development tools to contribute to the project may prove a barrier to new contributions. apache has always used open source build and test tools. this allows

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...The full proposal is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal.. That says future contributions could depend on proprietary systems such as Microsoft .Net or commercial

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: 4. running continuous integration on shore may require licenses. it's important that contributors understand this and don't just start diving in. it may be better to start off shore. As a US based Deleware 501(c)3 that wouldn't protect us. As far as continuous

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-13 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: 4. running continuous integration on shore may require licenses. it's important that contributors understand this and don't just start diving in. it may be better to start off shore. As a US based Deleware 501(c)3 that wouldn't protect

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-12 Thread Paul Fremantle
Bertrand Great feedback. I think we should keep a clear statement in the SVN and distros that identifies which parts of the project use which dependencies. I also think we should structure the build so that each different framework implementation of each application is a separate build target. We

RE: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-12 Thread Kamaljit Bath
+1 -Original Message- From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:22 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge Bertrand Great feedback. I think we should keep a clear statement in the SVN and distros that identifies

Re: [Proposal] Stonehenge

2008-11-11 Thread Kamaljit Bath
Microsoft is happy to support Stonehenge. We believe that the intent of the project is to focus on building a set of sample applications based on approved W3C and OASIS standard protocols with a goal of helping increase interoperability between different implementations on various platforms. We

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...The full proposal is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal.. That says future contributions could depend on proprietary systems such as Microsoft .Net or commercial JEE servers, which IIUC means

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-10 Thread Ruwan Linton
+1 and I have added my self to the committers Thanks, Ruwan On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to propose Stonehenge as an incubator proposal. Stonehenge is a set of example applications for Service Oriented Architecture that spans languages

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-10 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to propose Stonehenge as an incubator proposal. Stonehenge is a set of example applications for Service Oriented Architecture that spans languages and platforms and demonstrates best practise and interoperability

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-09 Thread Paul Fremantle
Looks good to me. I've added myself to the list of mentors :) Thanks!! Paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-09 Thread Afkham Azeez
+1 for the proposal Azeez On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to propose Stonehenge as an incubator proposal. Stonehenge is a set of example applications for Service Oriented Architecture that spans languages and platforms and demonstrates best

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-08 Thread Matthieu Riou
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to propose Stonehenge as an incubator proposal. Stonehenge is a set of example applications for Service Oriented Architecture that spans languages and platforms and demonstrates best practise

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-07 Thread Senaka Fernando
Paul -- Forwarded message -- From: Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:34 PM Subject: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge To: general@incubator.apache.org I'd like to propose Stonehenge as an incubator proposal. Stonehenge is a set of example applications

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-07 Thread Alex Boisvert
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upon thinking about it, and talking with others, I really believe that Stonehenge had the potential of being an extremely cool effort. Not only for the code aspects, but even more importantly the impact it could have in

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-06 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 4, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Paul Fremantle wrote: I'd like to propose Stonehenge as an incubator proposal. Stonehenge is a set of example applications for Service Oriented Architecture that spans languages and platforms and demonstrates best practise and interoperability. The full proposal

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-05 Thread Ruwan Linton
+1, this seems to be interesting Thanks, Ruwan On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to propose Stonehenge as an incubator proposal. Stonehenge is a set of example applications for Service Oriented Architecture that spans languages and platforms

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-05 Thread Paul Fremantle
Robert sounds like a worthwhile initiative Thanks for the feedback! i like the idea but i do wonder a little whether the practical scope of the project needs some more rounding out I agree it would make sense to help tie down what would make this a successful project, release, etc. Any

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-05 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
Paul Fremantle wrote: the scope's really pretty broad so i think a little more detail about scaling out would be useful: how would stonehenge approach adding new suites especially when donated from outside the developers group? I guess I imagined that there would be two approaches. One is that

[PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-04 Thread Paul Fremantle
I'd like to propose Stonehenge as an incubator proposal. Stonehenge is a set of example applications for Service Oriented Architecture that spans languages and platforms and demonstrates best practise and interoperability. The full proposal is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-04 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to propose Stonehenge as an incubator proposal. Stonehenge is a set of example applications for Service Oriented Architecture that spans languages and platforms and demonstrates best practise and interoperability