Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-09-02 Thread Timothy Bennett
On 8/24/06, Upayavira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: +1 (non-binding) -- timothy

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-28 Thread Upayavira
Oops. I guess I should vote :-) [X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling Upayavira Upayavira wrote: Folks, Without further ado (and before my PC dies again), I'd like to call a vote on accepting Wicket into the incubator. As previously mentioned, the Wicket community held a

[RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-28 Thread Upayavira
The vote has now, IMO, had enough time to run. To summarise, we had 8 binding +1s, from Leo Simons, Alex Karasulu, Jason van Zyl, Justin Erenkrantz, Don Brown, Yoav Shapira, Robert Burrell Donkin, Upayavira, and one binding -0 from Greg Stein. We also had eight non-binding +1s. This means that

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-28 Thread Yoav Shapira
Congratulations and good luck to the wicket team ;) Yoav On 8/28/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 :) -Igor On 8/28/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome Wicket! Thanks a lot everyone! Looking forward to start incubation. Eelco

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-28 Thread Alex Karasulu
Yoav Shapira wrote: Congratulations and good luck to the wicket team ;) +1 (binding) :) Alex Yoav On 8/28/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 :) -Igor On 8/28/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome Wicket! Thanks a lot everyone! Looking forward to start

RE: what wicket is (was: Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator)

2006-08-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
The model sounds cool, but I don't happen to like it. Fair enough. :-) There are several projects in the Incubator for which I could personally say the same thing. But other ASF Members like them, and that's all good. :-) With respect to Wicket, well I happen to like JavaServer Pages, so

Re: Re: -1 votes on proposals need no explanation was Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 8/25/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upayavira wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: FYI: this is a majority vote not subject to vetos. So, there's no requirement that you provide a reason for voting against it - just like you don't have to provide a reason why you're voting

what wicket is (was: Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator)

2006-08-25 Thread Leo Simons
Greg, Basically wicket creates a session for every user and then attaches a java object graph to that session, with parts shared between sessions. Then there are some mechanisms for attaching id-ed objects in that graph to id-ed elements in an HTML template, and rendering directions for the merge

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-25 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 8/24/06, Upayavira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: what wicket is (was: Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator)

2006-08-25 Thread Greg Stein
On 8/25/06, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Wicket *is* different. Excellent. Thanks a bunch for the thorough reply and comparison points. Very helpful. Whether this is the right way to do things is debatable, but I would say now is not the right time for the incubator to start

Re: what wicket is (was: Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator)

2006-08-25 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 04:46:13AM -0700, Greg Stein wrote: Whether this is the right way to do things is debatable, but I would say now is not the right time for the incubator to start having those kinds of debates. I'm not trying to start a debate, nor engaging in any debate. I offered

[VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Upayavira
Folks, Without further ado (and before my PC dies again), I'd like to call a vote on accepting Wicket into the incubator. As previously mentioned, the Wicket community held a unanimous vote to approach the incubator. The vote thread is here:

Oops (was Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator)

2006-08-24 Thread Upayavira
Searching for '[VOTE]' on the wicket archives isn't enough to find the relevant vote :-( Here's the correct link: http://www.mail-archive.com/wicket-develop@lists.sourceforge.net/index.html#08853 Upayavira Upayavira wrote: Folks, Without further ado (and before my PC dies again), I'd like

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 24 August 2006 15:02, Upayavira wrote: So, please cast your votes: [x] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling (non-binding) Cheers Niclas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Martin Marinschek
+1 (non-binding) regards, Martin On 8/24/06, Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 24 August 2006 15:02, Upayavira wrote: So, please cast your votes: [x] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling (non-binding) Cheers Niclas

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 12:02:53AM -0700, Upayavira wrote: Without further ado (and before my PC dies again), I'd like to call a vote on accepting Wicket into the incubator. snip/ = Wicket Proposal = This proposal outlines the creation of a new top-level Wicket project within the Apache

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
On 8/24/06, Ersin Er [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Wicket vs. Struts: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Struts Bleh. That page confuses a lot of things. It conflates disparate components (e.g. Struts and JSP) in order to form opinions. It appears that Wicket also does state

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Andrus Adamchik
I've never used Wicket, but I've done a fair number of webapps using similar component frameworks, such as WebObjects and Tapestry. All I can say - it is hard to argue about component frameworks with people who never used them. The benefit is essentially a different more developer-friendly

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Gwyn Evans
[X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling /Gwyn P.S. We'll be happy to discuss Why Wicket or the Wicket homepage marketing-speak, but I don't think this thread's the place to do it! -- Download Wicket 1.2.1 now! - http://wicketframework.org

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Alex Karasulu
Upayavira wrote: So, please cast your votes: [X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: +1 Alex - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Jason van Zyl
+1 On 24 Aug 06, at 3:02 AM 24 Aug 06, Upayavira wrote: Folks, Without further ado (and before my PC dies again), I'd like to call a vote on accepting Wicket into the incubator. As previously mentioned, the Wicket community held a unanimous vote to approach the incubator. The vote thread is

Joining Incubator PMC (was Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator)

2006-08-24 Thread Upayavira
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On 8/24/06, Upayavira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...=== Name === Obviously, the ... Looks like something's missing on that line, it ends after Obviously, the. Not having a good day. That was where I started saying that I'd done a US trademark search that showed

Re: Joining Incubator PMC (was Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator)

2006-08-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 8/24/06, Upayavira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ...Not sure if binding or not, I've signed up as a mentor for Wicket but didn't participate in incubator activities before. Currently non-binding. But, as an ASF member, you should ask the Incubator PMC to join.

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 8/24/06, Upayavira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, please cast your votes: [X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Don Brown
+1 On 8/24/06, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/24/06, Upayavira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, please cast your votes: [X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason

-1 votes on proposals need no explanation was Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 8/24/06, Upayavira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: FYI: this is a majority vote not subject to vetos. So, there's no requirement that you provide a reason for voting against it -

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, +1. Yoav On 8/24/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 On 8/24/06, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/24/06, Upayavira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, please cast your votes: [X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
+1 (non-binding) On 8/24/06, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, +1. Yoav On 8/24/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 On 8/24/06, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/24/06, Upayavira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, please cast your votes: [X] +1 Accept

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 8/24/06, Greg Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/24/06, Ersin Er [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Wicket vs. Struts: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Struts Bleh. That page confuses a lot of things. It conflates disparate components (e.g. Struts and JSP) in order to form opinions.

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
On 8/24/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I'm developing a desktop application. You can object to the importance we give to providing a clean OO model, and argue that our tradeoffs are ill chosen, but I believe Wicket fills a gap in the web framework sphere. I didn't object... I

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I didn't object... I voted -0 based on the information I was pointed out, which (as you said) is not a very good comparison point. *shrug* Sorry if I came across too strongly. Igor pointed out my reply had a bit of a zealous tone to it. My only goal was to explain the idea behind Wicket a bit.

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Ross Gardler
Upayavira wrote: [X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling +1, non-binding Ross - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: -1 votes on proposals need no explanation was Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Upayavira
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 8/24/06, Upayavira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: FYI: this is a majority vote not subject to vetos. So, there's no requirement that you provide a

Re: -1 votes on proposals need no explanation was Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Upayavira wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: FYI: this is a majority vote not subject to vetos. So, there's no requirement that you provide a reason for voting against it - just like you don't have to provide a reason why you're voting for it. If you want to provide a reason, great, but I