Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread John D. Ament
So, at this point, is this resolved? I may have missed the final resolution summary. John On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. It comes on the hills of the general consensus of

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread Dave Fisher
We need to report that NPanday is being retired. On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:50 AM, John D. Ament wrote: On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: So, at this point, is this resolved? I may have missed the final resolution summary. Nevermind, got thrown off

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread John D. Ament
On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: So, at this point, is this resolved? I may have missed the final resolution summary. Nevermind, got thrown off in my search by a late vote. I just retired them from podlings.xml and will remove them from the board

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread John D. Ament
On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:57:28 AM Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: We need to report that NPanday is being retired. Yep, added a retired section. John On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:50 AM, John D. Ament wrote: On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
FWIW: Cos and I were planning to finalize the retirement steps today. Thanks, Roman. On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:01 AM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:57:28 AM Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: We need to report that NPanday is being retired. Yep,

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread John D. Ament
Hope I didn't throw you off, just wanted to make sure I was doing some basic shepherding work (since I pulled the NPanday card this month :-) John On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 8:06:51 PM Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: FWIW: Cos and I were planning to finalize the retirement steps today.

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread John D. Ament
On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 8:59:21 PM Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:16 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: Hope I didn't throw you off, just wanted to make sure I was doing some basic shepherding work (since I pulled the NPanday card this month

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 6:06 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 8:59:21 PM Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:16 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: Hope I didn't throw you off, just wanted to make sure I was

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:16 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: Hope I didn't throw you off, just wanted to make sure I was doing some basic shepherding work (since I pulled the NPanday card this month :-) Nah, its cool. I've initiated all the required steps and updated the website.

[RESULT] [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-30 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. It comes on the hills of the general consensus of the NPanday community and its mentors that retirement is the only viable path at this point:

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-30 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. It comes on the hills of the general consensus of the NPanday community and its mentors that retirement is the only viable path at this point:

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-30 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
+1 (non-binding) -Taylor On Jan 30, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. It comes on the hills of the general

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-26 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
+1 [sadly] On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 02:13PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. It comes on the hills of the general consensus of the NPanday community and its mentors that retirement is the only viable path at this point:

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-23 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 (binding) On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. It comes on the hills of the general consensus of the NPanday community and its mentors that retirement is the only viable path at this point:

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. +1 but it looks like a few people are interested in using and working on that code, please make sure clear instructions are given to them about

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-22 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 LieGrue, strub On Wednesday, 21 January 2015, 23:15, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: T his is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. It comes on the hills of the general consensus of the NPanday community and its mentors that retirement is

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: ...We had a vote thread about a month ago: http://s.apache.org/HIF ... And I voted -1 at that time (http://s.apache.org/Vqa) but my concern has been addressed, hence my +1 above. -Bertrand

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-21 Thread Henry Saputra
+1 - Henry On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. It comes on the hills of the general consensus of the NPanday community and its mentors that retirement is the only viable path

[VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. It comes on the hills of the general consensus of the NPanday community and its mentors that retirement is the only viable path at this point: http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n http://s.apache.org/Efn

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-21 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
+1 to retire. The half full aspect is that it looks like people are doing something more useful with their time. Hadrian On 01/21/2015 05:19 PM, jan i wrote: +1 Even though I do not like to see a podling end like this, but life support has to be terminated at a point. rgds jan i On

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-21 Thread John D. Ament
+1 It's a cool idea, but the technology direction has gone a different way. On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. It comes on the hills of the general consensus of the NPanday

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:28 PM, John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com wrote: ...Let's cancel this vote and have at least Cos send them a note saying many of us in the IPMC think you should retire (but more nicely/PC). Give them 72 hours to provide feedback +1, after that I'm ok to vote on

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-12 Thread John D. Ament
...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:06 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling Actually, as per this email http://is.gd/55HOkJ I have emailed npanday-dev@ with the reminder about missing report. And I have raised

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-12 Thread jan i
- From: Konstantin Boudnik [mailto:c...@apache.org javascript:;] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:06 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org javascript:; Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling Actually, as per this email http://is.gd/55HOkJ I have emailed npanday

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Shaposhnik Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:01 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Mentors should raise the issue with the podling

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-12 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling Actually, as per this email http://is.gd/55HOkJ I have emailed npanday-dev@ with the reminder about missing report. And I have raised the flag about project's issues on the general@ before

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling... -1 for now. Unless I missed something I don't see any mention of this on the NPanday mailing list at

RE: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Wow - thanks for your diligence Bertrand. I support this -1 unless Bertrand made a mistake. Ross -Original Message- From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacre...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:02 AM To: Incubator General Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling... -1 for now. Unless I missed something I don't see any

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Mentors should raise the issue with the podling. If the mentors are absent then maybe the problem doesn't lie with the podling but with our handling of it. A VOTE should be a formality used on the few occasions where our bye-laws require them. It certainly should not, IMHO, be a stick to wave

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Mentors should raise the issue with the podling. If the mentors are absent then maybe the problem doesn't lie with the podling but with our handling of it. The only active mentors left on the

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Actually, as per this email http://is.gd/55HOkJ I have emailed npanday-dev@ with the reminder about missing report. And I have raised the flag about project's issues on the general@ before. As far as I can tell this whole discussion about NPanday is going on for about a year now (by very modest

RE: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
...@gmail.com [mailto:shaposh...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Roman Shaposhnik Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:01 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote

RE: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
[mailto:c...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:06 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling Actually, as per this email http://is.gd/55HOkJ I have emailed npanday-dev@ with the reminder about missing report. And I have raised

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Boudnik [mailto:c...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:06 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling Actually, as per this email http://is.gd/55HOkJ I have emailed npanday-dev@ with the reminder about missing report. And I

[VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well, producing two releases and adding mentors and committers.

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-10 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
retirement for NPanday poddling This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well, producing two releases and adding

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-10 Thread Henry Saputra
+1 (binding) On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html Up until 2012 the