Re: [discuss] Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal

2016-10-19 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 11:48:15AM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > I have an issue, based on past history, related to IBM's continued > > efforts and dedication on ASF projects. I will not mention specific > > projects, but the

Re: [discuss] Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal

2016-10-17 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > I see that this is a proposal that originates, basically from IBM. IBM + Adobe > I have an issue, based on past history, related to IBM's continued > efforts and dedication on ASF projects. I will not mention specific >

Re: [discuss] Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal

2016-10-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
I see that this is a proposal that originates, basically from IBM. I have an issue, based on past history, related to IBM's continued efforts and dedication on ASF projects. I will not mention specific projects, but the ASF has a number of projects which died (or almost died and only were revived

Re: [discuss] Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal

2016-10-14 Thread Mark Struberg
> Git repositories are effectively cryptographically-signed (weak/strong, > immaterial to this discussion), so a readonly mirror on ASF hardware is > equivalent to a read/write repository living on GitHub. Allow me to disagree. The hashes are cryptographically strong. But it's only sha1

Re: [discuss] Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal

2016-10-14 Thread Mark Struberg
Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> Date: Friday, 14 October, 2016, 16:51 > Git repositories are effectively cryptographically-signed (weak/strong, > immaterial to this discussion), so a read

Re: [discuss] Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal

2016-10-14 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > The problem with github is that we (ASF) cannot give any guarantees if the > main stuff doesn't originate from our own hardware. > Git repositories are effectively cryptographically-signed (weak/strong,

Re: [discuss] Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal

2016-10-14 Thread Felix Meschberger
Hi Mark Understood. And these are valid points to be discussed in the larger context of whether ASF supports GitHub as a primary repository. Which in turn is outside of the scope of this proposal. And which is where this OpenWhiz community will have a vested interest in participating. And as

Re: [discuss] Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal

2016-10-14 Thread Mark Struberg
The problem with github is that we (ASF) cannot give any guarantees if the main stuff doesn't originate from our own hardware. Not whether the ticket system doesn't loose all tickets (didn't that happen in the past?) nor whether really only IP clean stuff got committed. You e.g. have no clue if

Re: [discuss] Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal

2016-10-14 Thread Felix Meschberger
Hi John This also ties into Mark’s question earlier on. The OpenWhisk part of the proposal is currently being developed in GitHub and the developers are used to the GitHub flow and features including but not limited to GitHub Issues. We have discussed this topic before proposing the project

Re: [discuss] Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal

2016-10-14 Thread John D. Ament
Sam, Can your or someone representing the proposed podling explain why using github as master is preferable to the current mirror strategy in use? John On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 6:29 AM Sam Ruby wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Greg Stein

Re: [discuss] Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal

2016-10-14 Thread Sam Ruby
On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Attached to this message is a proposed new project - Apache OpenWhisk. >> >> The text of the proposal is included below.

Re: [discuss] Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal

2016-10-14 Thread Mark Struberg
Why isn't it enough to just mirror to github? I only quickly read through the proposal and I'm not sure if thy just stated that _currently_ the repo is on github. With GIT it makes no difference at all where the repo is hosted IF you have a track record (which ASF git-wip does, but github

Re: [discuss] Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal

2016-10-13 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Attached to this message is a proposed new project - Apache OpenWhisk. > > The text of the proposal is included below. Additionally, the proposal is > in draft form on the Wiki, where we will make any

[discuss] Apache OpenWhisk Incubator Proposal

2016-10-13 Thread Sam Ruby
Hello everyone, Attached to this message is a proposed new project - Apache OpenWhisk. The text of the proposal is included below. Additionally, the proposal is in draft form on the Wiki, where we will make any required changes: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWhiskProposal We look