Re: Earned autonomy

2012-02-06 Thread Craig L Russell
On Feb 6, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: Hi, Ate, On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 02:33:11AM +0100, Ate Douma wrote: What worries me a lot about the recent proposals, not only the text above, is that project autonomy seems to be measured foremost by just doing proper releases. To me, Apach

Re: Earned autonomy

2012-02-06 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Hi, Ate, On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 02:33:11AM +0100, Ate Douma wrote: > What worries me a lot about the recent proposals, not only the text > above, is that project autonomy seems to be measured foremost by just > doing proper releases. > > To me, Apache == Community over code. The case I have be

Re: Earned autonomy

2012-02-06 Thread Ross Gardler
On 6 February 2012 01:33, Ate Douma wrote: > On 02/06/2012 01:41 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: >> >> On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 01:26:47PM -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >>> >>> It might be worthwhile to require 3 ASF members on the initial release, >>> 2 on the next, 1 on the following and then trus

Re: Earned autonomy

2012-02-05 Thread Ralph Goers
On Feb 5, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Ate Douma wrote: >> >> >> I fully agree the current Incubator has its issues, but radically killing it >> off IMO will also kill off more than just those issues: it will also kill >> the Incubator community it

Re: Earned autonomy

2012-02-05 Thread Luciano Resende
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > On 02/06/2012 01:41 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: >> >> On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 01:26:47PM -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >>> >>> It might be worthwhile to require 3 ASF members on the initial release, >>> 2 on the next, 1 on the following and the

Re: Earned autonomy

2012-02-05 Thread Ate Douma
On 02/06/2012 01:41 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 01:26:47PM -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: It might be worthwhile to require 3 ASF members on the initial release, 2 on the next, 1 on the following and then trust the committee to follow the established precedent. +1 In

Earned autonomy

2012-02-05 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 01:26:47PM -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > It might be worthwhile to require 3 ASF members on the initial release, > 2 on the next, 1 on the following and then trust the committee to follow > the established precedent. +1 Instead of automatically decreasing the count,