Etch?

2009-01-24 Thread Brian McCallister
What ever happened to Etch? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Etch Status?

2011-06-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
What is preventing Etch from graduating? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

[PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-07-31 Thread James Dixson
This a proposal to enter Etch in to the incubator. See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EtchProposal for updates. In particular, we are looking for an interested Champion. We welcome any and all comments. :-) -- James Dixson -proposal- = Abstract Etch is a cross-platform, language

Etch report

2008-10-13 Thread David Crossley
> = Etch = > > Etch was accepted into Incubator on the 2 September 2008. Since then the > following items has been completed; > > * Project STATUS page, navigation and entry in projects/index.html has > been set up. > * Mailing lists has been set up. > * J

Re: Etch?

2009-01-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Brian McCallister wrote: > What ever happened to Etch? Live and well, although http://incubator.apache.org/etch has not been populated yet. ATM, stuff gets written to http://cwiki.apache.org/ETCH/ Was it something else in particular you were thinking of? F

Re: Etch?

2009-01-24 Thread Luciano Resende
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Brian McCallister wrote: >> What ever happened to Etch? > > Live and well, although http://incubator.apache.org/etch has not been > populated yet. ATM, stuff gets written to > http://

Re: Etch?

2009-01-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: > Pointing http://incubator.apache.org/etch to an auto exported version > of the wiki should be easy, and there is some documentation embedded > in the following page [1], please let me know if you need help. > > [1] http://c

Re: Etch?

2009-01-25 Thread James Dixson
One of the committers, Rene, is working on this. On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: > >> Pointing http://incubator.apache.org/etch to an auto exported version >> of the wiki should be easy,

Re: Etch Status?

2011-06-14 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > What is preventing Etch from graduating? A diverse, active, growing community and building releases. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsub

Re: Etch Status?

2011-06-14 Thread Michael Fitzner
. regards Michael 2011/6/14 Martijn Dashorst : > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> What is preventing Etch from graduating? > > A diverse, active, growing community and building releas

On Etch status

2012-01-09 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Etch is a cross-platform, language- and transport-independent framework for building and consuming network services. The Etch toolset includes a network service description language, a compiler, and binding libraries for a variety of programming languages. It currently supports C, C# and Java

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-07-31 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 01 August 2008 00:16, James Dixson wrote: > This a proposal to enter Etch in to the incubator. > > See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EtchProposal for updates. > > In particular, we are looking for an interested Champion. Well, you are expected to have found a Ch

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
You adressed the two concerns that I have, too, thanks. - The name. "Debian Etch" is a deeply engrained meme with the "Etch" short cut. - Office disussions. Projects where a large number of committers are from the same organization and that also have this company being inv

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread Upayavira
ssed the two concerns that I have, too, thanks. > > - The name. "Debian Etch" is a deeply engrained meme with the "Etch" > short cut. > > - Office disussions. Projects where a large number of committers are > from the same organization and that also have this

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread James Dixson
I am a bit confused though about the "too good" concern, I do not think I understand what you mean. Could you elaborate? -- james On 7/31/08 10:28 PM, "Niclas Hedhman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 01 August 2008 00:16, James Dixson wrote: >> This a prop

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 01 August 2008 21:10, James Dixson wrote: > I am a bit confused though about the "too good" concern, I do not think I > understand what you mean. Could you elaborate? I think it was Stefano Mazzocchi who said about community building, that the only "Bad Code + Great Vision" will succeed

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:16 PM, James Dixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This a proposal to enter Etch in to the incubator. James, could you perhaps describe how this differs from Thrift? -Yonik - To unsubscrib

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread James Dixson
Ah. Well, then I do not think there is anything to worry about as far as Etch is concerned. There are many, many potential growth points for the project. A simple example, Etch supports Java and C# language bindings today with a binary-transport. One of the committers, Seth Call, is working on a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread James Dixson
The watercooler problem is real, but addressable. We accept that in order for a community around Etch to grow, communication has to be open. Much of our communication and discussion about Etch has been mediated over email as our intramural community is geographically distributed. It is not a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:41 AM, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 14 people from one organisation on the initial committer list looks to > me like a daunting incubation. Indeed. Which of those people will actually be working on Etch going forward? A quick perusal shows a M

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread Louis R. Marascio
ers--one that we've fostered and grown on our own accord here at Cisco. You can see it here: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cuae-dev/ Again, I realize it isn't the same, but I wanted to make sure the Incubator community knows that the folks who are bringing Etch to Apache

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread scott comer (sccomer)
nd every one of them, blah, blah. in the end, it was all too much. i actually had a fully functional basic etch framework put together (hand built code) when i first checked out thrift (eh, march 2007?). etch was was good enough to be able to compare the two. the comparison was favorable enou

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread James Dixson
with Etch. When we were discussing amongst ourselves who to include in the proposal, we tried to apply the same criteria regarding merit that we would need to apply if we were already an apache project. All of the folks on the list are folks that have been consistently active in Etch development

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread Paul Fremantle
l start listing your inaccuracies. Paul On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:16 PM, James Dixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This a proposal to enter Etch in to the incubator. > > See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EtchProposal for updates. > > In particular, we are looking for an intere

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread Doug Cutting
James Dixson wrote: This a proposal to enter Etch in to the incubator. +1 for incubation. I will gladly be a mentor. Doug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread scott comer (sccomer)
full time on the etch project, everyone else has other duties as well. there is plenty of room for more contributors on current and future projects: ruby binding python binding web services gateway web services transport maven build automated interop test framework and suite better testing

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread James Dixson
Paul, Are you referring to the "SOAP/Web Services offer an interesting comparison ..." paragraph? If so, then I agree it is probably redundant to the Etch rationale and I can remove it. -- james On 8/1/08 12:34 PM, "Paul Fremantle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread Paul Fremantle
Yes that was the paragraph I was referring to. Paul On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:29 PM, James Dixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul, > > Are you referring to the "SOAP/Web Services offer an interesting comparison > ..." paragraph? > > If so, then I agree it

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-04 Thread Yonik Seeley
2008 at 12:16 PM, James Dixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This a proposal to enter Etch in to the incubator. > > See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EtchProposal for updates. > > In particular, we are looking for an interested Champion. >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-05 Thread James Dixson
the ASF, and I have a personal interest in perhaps using > it for Solr 2.0. > > I'll certainly volunteer to be a Mentor. > > -Yonik > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:16 PM, James Dixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This a proposal to enter Etch in to the incubator.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-05 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:23 PM, scott comer (sccomer) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we might have overdone the committer list here a bit so nobody who made a > significant contribution felt left out. :-) Perhaps something like a FAQ entry "What is the history of Etch?" on t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-05 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On 8/1/08, scott comer (sccomer) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we might have overdone the committer list here a bit so nobody who made > a significant contribution felt left out. :-) Having a long committer list is not necessarily bad but projects which enter with a long list of which only a small

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-05 Thread Niklas Gustavsson
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:16 PM, James Dixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This a proposal to enter Etch in to the incubator. > > See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EtchProposal for updates. +1 for incubation (non-binding). While I find this area to be a bit overcrowded lately, h

RE: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-05 Thread James Dixson (jadixson)
I have heard the name concern a couple of times now... When we picked the name Etch about 18 months ago, we knew about the Debian release, but frankly we were unconcerned. Debian etch is the name of a release of Debian, no different than "4" being a release of Fedora. Eventually Debian

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-06 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Call it "Edge". :-) My concern is mainly "2". And you will get lots of Linux support questions on your mailing list. Ciao Henning James Dixson (jadixson) schrieb: I have heard the name concern a couple of times now... When we picked the name

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-06 Thread Paul Fremantle
Dixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This a proposal to enter Etch in to the incubator. >> >> See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EtchProposal for updates. > > +1 for incubation (non-binding). While I find this area to be a bit > overcrowded lately, having both Etch an

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-06 Thread James Dixson
in. > > Regards, > Paul > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Niklas Gustavsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:16 PM, James Dixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> This a proposal to enter Etch in to the incubator. >>> &

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-06 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
.com/ -- Lucene - Solr - Nutch - Original Message > From: James Dixson (jadixson) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2008 6:03:28 PM > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Etch > > I have heard the name concern a couple of times now... > &g

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-06 Thread Craig L Russell
A modern replacement for CORBA? Just resist the temptation to implement Persistence Services on top. ;-) +1 Craig On Jul 31, 2008, at 9:16 AM, James Dixson wrote: This a proposal to enter Etch in to the incubator. See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EtchProposal for updates. In

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 01 August 2008 00:16:57 James Dixson wrote: > == Nominated Mentors Now; Niclas Hedhman Doug Cutting Paul Fremantle I had to remove Yonik from the list of formal Mentors, as he is not on the Incubator PMC (AFAICT). Paul Fremantle has volunteered, so I put him up as well. A

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-06 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now; > Niclas Hedhman > Doug Cutting > Paul Fremantle > > I had to remove Yonik from the list of formal Mentors, as he is not on the > Incubator PMC (AFAICT). Huh? Mentors become part of the Incubator PMC. "The Sp

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 07 August 2008 10:50:10 Yonik Seeley wrote: > "The Sponsor shall assign a Mentor, who shall be granted membership of > the Incubator PMC for the duration of the incubation process." > That's also why they are listed as Nominated Members... the Incubator > PMC must confirm them. Yes, b

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-06 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 07 August 2008 10:50:10 Yonik Seeley wrote: > >> "The Sponsor shall assign a Mentor, who shall be granted membership of >> the Incubator PMC for the duration of the incubation process." >> That's also why they

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Yonik Seeley wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thursday 07 August 2008 10:50:10 Yonik Seeley wrote: "The Sponsor shall assign a Mentor, who shall be granted membership of the Incubator PMC for the duration of the incubation process." That's al

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 07 August 2008 12:16:47 Yonik Seeley wrote: > And I also qualify on that point. Then I am so sorry. As Bill pointed out, it ain't easy to recall exactly who are Members and who are not... I will adjust the Proposal. Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer I live here; http:/

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 07 August 2008 12:16:47 Yonik Seeley wrote: > And I also qualify on that point. Then I am so sorry. As Bill pointed out, it ain't easy to recall exactly who are Members and who are not... I will adjust the Proposal. Paul, do you still want to be Mentor?? Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-06 Thread Paul Fremantle
Niclas I offered as a backup. I'm perfectly happy for the proposal to go forwards with the three original mentors. I will probably join the mailing lists anyway. Thanks! Paul On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 07 August 2008 12:16:47 Yonik Se

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-07 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 07 August 2008 14:33:57 Paul Fremantle wrote: > Niclas > > I offered as a backup. I'm perfectly happy for the proposal to go > forwards with the three original mentors. I will probably join the > mailing lists anyway. Ok, noted in proposal. Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Develop

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-07 Thread Mike Edwards
Folks, Can I ask if anyone has compared Etch with Apache Tuscany and the SCA specifications? Yours, Mike. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-07 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
From my understanding, Tuscany could leverage Etch to offer a wire format that can be consumed by a variety of different languages and environments, not a contestant to it. Ciao Henning Mike Edwards schrieb: Folks, Can I ask if anyone has compared Etch with Apache

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-07 Thread Mike Edwards
Henning, I'd be grateful if you could explain this further. When I look at the Etch proposal page, it does not seem that Etch is simply about a wire format, so I am puzzled by your reply. There are some things I'm clearly not getting about Etch. Yours, Mike. Henning Schmiedeha

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-07 Thread Scott Comer (sccomer)
Doug is a wise man and that is how we picked the name etch 18 month ago. Scott out -Original Message- From: Otis Gospodnetic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:12 PM Pacific Standard Time To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject:Re

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-07 Thread Scott Comer (sccomer)
Hey, I was apple's rep to the omg for awhile and a member of the persistent comittee. As the etch architect, that experience has informed my every move. Keep it simple, make it fast. Scott out >From the monterey bay aquarium -Original Message- From: Craig L Russell

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-07 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
http://www.google.com/search?&q=etch -- 12MM hits for an unreleased product (this Etch) http://www.google.com/search?&q=hadoop -- < 600K hits for a product that's been out for over a year Why such resistance to name change? There is this proverb that might be suitable

RE: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-08 Thread James Dixson (jadixson)
Simple put: a name change is work. Before I can accept the need to do work, I want to clearly understand the benefits of doing it. Etch, while new to open-source, does have some awareness in a technical community ( http://developer.cisco.com/web/cuae ). We have been publicly pitching and

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-08 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Aug 8, 2008, at 4:28 AM, James Dixson (jadixson) wrote: Simple put: a name change is work. Before I can accept the need to do work, I want to clearly understand the benefits of doing it. Etch, while new to open-source, does have some awareness in a technical community ( http

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-08 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Etch, it's just that it's an English word, plus there are several other products with "Etch" in their name. - Original Message > From: Grant Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 6:28:23 AM > S

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:23 PM, scott comer (sccomer) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we might have overdone the committer list here a bit so nobody who made a > significant contribution felt left out. :-)... > ...summary: > > architecture: scott comer > compiler, java and csharp binding: scott comer

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-12 Thread scott comer
as a scientist, i am getting somewhat bristly at all the rumor, innuendo, and hyperbole around names. i've not seen any definitive or measurable steps that can be take to ensure success. we're also ignoring the silent majority which seems to like etch just fine. my personal opinion i

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-12 Thread Craig L Russell
ccess. we're also ignoring the silent majority which seems to like etch just fine. my personal opinion is that the name is not the gating factor for success. apache pig? really. success and web hits will derive from being truly useful and trusted. it doesn't work the other way a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-12 Thread Les Hazlewood
+1 to Scott's comments. I don't think the name is a significant conflict at all. Debian Etch is a release codename - regular references to it will fade away as the next release surfaces, and the Apache Etch name, if it is a successful project, should last much longer. This woul

RE: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Scott Comer wrote: > as a scientist, i am getting somewhat bristly at all the rumor, > innuendo, and hyperbole around names. Can you be more specific? So far the best argument against Etch that I've seen is Grant's, and Les makes a good point about the transient nature of suc

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-12 Thread Niall Pemberton
also ignoring the silent majority > which seems to like etch just fine. my personal opinion is that the name is > not the gating factor for success. apache pig? really. success and web hits > will derive from being truly useful and trusted. it doesn't work the other > way around. &

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-12 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Scott Comer wrote: the important thing right now is, i think, that searching now for etch doesn't not reveal anything which is obviously competing technology True, but were the debian community to make "a federal case" of the issue, I don't know th

RE: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> Scott Comer wrote: >>> the important thing right now is, i think, that searching now for etch >>> doesn't not reveal anything which is obviously competing technology >> True, but were the debian com

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-13 Thread scott comer
people that mention name (8), only 3 are voting: henning: concerned about confusion with debian. only says we need to be careful and explicit. niall: wants to see the q resolved. likes the name, sees no real objection. niclas: conflict with debian; only worries about it. of the rest, most like th

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-13 Thread Mike Edwards
niall: wants to see the q resolved. likes the name, sees no real objection. niclas: conflict with debian; only worries about it. of the rest, most like the name etch and seem to be just "tossing the ball around". the main other concern is that of confusion with Debian Etch vs. Apache Et

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-13 Thread scott comer
with debian; only worries about it. of the rest, most like the name etch and seem to be just "tossing the ball around". the main other concern is that of confusion with Debian Etch vs. Apache Etch. There was some discussion about whether etch could get to the top of the google list.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-13 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:58 PM, scott comer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > of the people that mention name (8), only 3 are voting: This is a discussion thread, not a formal vote for Etch to enter the Incubator. [...] > so, can we put the name question to bed? it was suggested that

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-13 Thread Yonik Seeley
+1 -Yonik On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:23 PM, scott comer (sccomer) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> we might have overdone the committer list here a bit so nobody who made a >> significant contribution felt left out. :-

RE: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
scott comer wrote: > in my opinion there isn't [a demand for name change]. certainly > names is a rich topic and the discussion would never die down on > it's own because it is so much fun. it's a wonder anything gets done. You should have been around for the start of Geronimo. :-) > can we put

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-15 Thread Grant Ingersoll
es the name, sees no real objection. niclas: conflict with debian; only worries about it. of the rest, most like the name etch and seem to be just "tossing the ball around". the main other concern is that of confusion with Debian Etch vs. Apache Etch. There was some discussion

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-18 Thread James Dixson
did call out in the proposal itself. All of the committers listed are active contributors to Etch today. There have been more contributors in the past and plenty in our circle of friends here at Cisco that would like to be contributors. But as I mentioned originally, we culled the list based on

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-18 Thread Upayavira
ial committers. Scott and I detailed various contributions explicitly > and for those we did not callout in this list, we did call out in the > proposal itself. > > All of the committers listed are active contributors to Etch today. There > have been more contributors in the past and p

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-18 Thread Yonik Seeley
It was suggested that the committer list be trimmed to those who will actually be committing (perhaps the 8 that Scott mentions). Those suggestions were not even acknowledged. Is there a problem with trimming the list? -Yonik -

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-18 Thread Jennifer O'Neill
I may have missed some of the threads on this, so apologize if this is a repeat. However, FWIW, I wanted to confirm that Etch isn't registered as a trademark or service mark with the US PTO for any software product or service, so there is no direct conflict with names in that venue. Jen

RE: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-20 Thread James Dixson (jadixson)
: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:18 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch It was suggested that the committer list be trimmed to those who will actually be committing (perhaps the 8 that Scott mentions). Those suggestions were not even acknowledged. Is there a problem with

RE: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-20 Thread Upayavira
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 08:43 -0700, James Dixson (jadixson) wrote: > There is no problem trimming the list. As I mentioned originally, we > included in the list all of the most recent active contributors. > > The question has been asked of the current contributors over the last > several days and m

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-25 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 08:43 -0700, James Dixson (jadixson) wrote: >> There is no problem trimming the list. As I mentioned originally, we >> included in the list all of the most recent active contributors. >> >> The question ha

Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-09-10 Thread Doug Cutting
Upayavira wrote: My expressed concern was to do with the length of the committer list. If you start with 14 committers, (and they all remain active) you won't be able to graduate until you reach at least 29 committers - so that there isn't a predominance from one organisation. I've always under

Re: Etch report

2008-10-14 Thread Niclas Hedhman
be the "public front piece", IMHO, it should be http://incubator.apache.org/etch that serves that purpose and STATUS is mainly an Incubator artifact for our process purposes. As for 'status' being dismysal state, give us a break ;o) We have only had 5-6 weeks since the VOTE...

[ANNOUNCE] Etch 1.1.0-incubating

2010-10-21 Thread Holger Grandy
Hi everybody, the Etch community released a new version! Etch is a cross-platform, language- and transport-independent framework for building and consuming bidirectional network services. The Etch toolset includes a network service description language, a compiler, and binding libraries for

Re: On Etch status

2012-01-09 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Just as an aside: I intend on staying with the PMC to provide oversight as a Member (and being a familiar Mentor), provided the Etch community wants me to tag along. Martijn On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > Etch is a cross-platform, language- and transport-independ

Re: On Etch status

2012-01-09 Thread ant elder
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > Etch is a cross-platform, language- and transport-independent > framework for building and consuming network services. The Etch > toolset includes a network service description language, a compiler, > and binding libraries for

Re: On Etch status

2012-01-10 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Martijn Dashorst > wrote: >> Etch is a cross-platform, language- and transport-independent >> framework for building and consuming network services. The Etch >> toolset includes a network service description language, a compiler, >>

Re: On Etch status

2012-01-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
"incubating" is hampering its attractiveness. It will > become a swim or sink challenge as TLP, but doubt the forecast is any > better of staying here. > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:39 PM, ant elder wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Martijn Dashorst >>

Re: On Etch status

2012-01-11 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > Now the big question: is Etch a candidate for graduating to TLP? > > I think it is, given the facts. It will be a TLP with issues of > activity, but so far user questions, development questions are > answered and r

Re: On Etch status

2012-01-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
roject, cut and check releases, apply patches and vote in new community members. The latter doesn't seem to be a problem, other than attracting new members. > What would be really bad for Etch is if the incubator recommends it > graduates into a TLP and then the board doesn't wa

RE: [ANNOUNCE] Etch 1.1.0-incubating

2010-10-22 Thread Gav...
> -Original Message- > From: Holger Grandy [mailto:holger.gra...@bmw-carit.de] > Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 1:19 AM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Etch 1.1.0-incubating > > Hi everybody, > > the Etch community released a new ve

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Etch 1.1.0-incubating

2010-10-22 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Gav... wrote: >> the Etch community released a new version! > Well Done Etch Team, I know how hard it was for this to come around and how > close things were to it not happening at all so is especially a great > achievement. I echo that!! Ch

Etch - next step toward incubation?

2008-09-23 Thread James Dixson
So we had a vote and there were plenty of binding votes for incubation ([VOTE RESULT] -> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200809.mbox/%3CF7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) So now what? Is there supposed to be an acknowledgement by the PMC? According to the bootstrap section of the

[VOTE] Publish Apache Incubator Etch 1.1

2010-10-12 Thread Holger Grandy
Hello, the Etch community voted on and has approved a proposal to release Apache Etch 1.1. A vote on the etch-dev@ list already resulted in three +1 from Incubator PMC members: - Doug Cutting - Martijn Dashorst - Gavin McDonald The proposal for the release was: http://mail-archives.apache.org

[DISCUSS] Graduate Etch from the incubator

2012-04-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
All, The Etch podling has been in the incubator for about 4 years. It has seen lots of drama with the departure of the original contributor of the project. Fortunately a very small, committed team has persevered and remained quietly in the incubator, committing bits and releasing the software

Incubator Etch Receipts of ICLAs, CCLAs

2011-08-20 Thread Michael Fitzner
I kindly request the current receipts of ICLAs, CCLAs and SGAs for the Apache Incubator Etch project from someone who are able to check the records in the private foundation repository. If this information is protected please send it to etch-priv...@incubator.apache.org I came to the project

[VOTE] accept Etch into the Incubator

2008-08-25 Thread James Dixson
Please vote on accepting Etch into the Incubator. The Etch proposal is at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EtchProposal -- James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Etch - next step toward incubation?

2008-09-23 Thread Luciano Resende
Please go ahead and submit CLA's and CCLA's. Also, work with your mentors and create the necessary JIRAs to create the new podling infrastructure resources. See some examples in [1] Also, item 7 is very important, but looks like Etch is already in the schedule [2] [1] http://issues.

Re: Etch - next step toward incubation?

2008-09-23 Thread David Crossley
Luciano Resende wrote: > Please go ahead and submit CLA's and CCLA's. > > Also, work with your mentors and create the necessary JIRAs to create > the new podling infrastructure resources. See some examples in [1] > > Also, item 7 is very important, but looks

Re: Etch - next step toward incubation?

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:04 AM, James Dixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So we had a vote and there were plenty of binding votes for incubation > ([VOTE RESULT] -> > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200809.mbox/%3CF7 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) > > So now what? Is there sup

[VOTE] Release Apache Etch 1.0.2-incubating

2009-03-03 Thread James Dixson
Ok folks I believe we have our first Apache release candidate for Etch: apache-etch-1.0.2-incubating. With this release we have updated all of the licensing/headers for the project to meet Apache standards, fixed a few bugs and validated under Windows, OS X and Linux (Ubuntu). Complete

[RESULT] [VOTE] Publish Apache Incubator Etch 1.1

2010-10-15 Thread Holger Grandy
Hi, I am closing this vote since we got no additional votes in this list and the 72 hours have passed. The vote has passed with the three +1 from incubator PMC members, that already voted on the etch-dev@ list. Thanks for your comments on the dev list, Holger On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 6:35 PM

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