On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote:
We should probably be clear about *who* can relax the rules, because
again this could become a fighting ground amongst 180 of us.
Perhaps we can avert potential disputes by blocking graduation rather than
releases.
Every
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote:
For a release tagged with the incubating
label and disclaimer, filing bugs rather than blocking seems reasonable.
I may have edited away more than you like but yes - filing bugs rather
than blocking is the approach
This has a good feel about it. Clearer, with flexibility.
We should probably be clear about *who* can relax the rules, because
again this could become a fighting ground amongst 180 of us.
As to putting the foundation at risk - breaching someone else's
copyright does that. Breaching the
On 12/11/13 9:51 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
I'm curious what others think. There's room for us to disagree, since
release
votes do not require consensus...
That's the part I've found curious. There's no whistleblower provision
for someone who thinks they see something
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
There's no whistleblower provision
for someone who thinks they see something that puts the foundation at risk
from stopping those to don't see it.
If there's a clear legal problem with a release candidate I'd expect others
A point which is often missed by new comers is that votes aren't final
until they vote closes and is tallied.
That allows a vote that uncovers a serious defect to trigger a bunch of
defecting votes (if the vote isn't just canceled)
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Doug Cutting
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:50 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
And the Incubator _is_ different and does have different policy and
rules, hence on occasion podlings being permitted to do releases which
include GPL dependencies while Incubating and just fixing those up as
a graduation
Therefore, when we say that incubating releases can have small IP loose
ends, we mean:
* This is an official release, created by an act of the Foundation.
* It is known to violate policy.
* It could be removed, but no one has done so yet.
I'm comfortable with relying on
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Benson Margulies
bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
If we deleted every
release from the main Foundation distro area that had some divergence
from some policy, no matter how tiny, my suspicion is that the distro
area would become rather sparse.
Yes quite. And
ant elder wrote:
Benson Margulies wrote:
If we deleted every
release from the main Foundation distro area that had some divergence
from some policy, no matter how tiny, my suspicion is that the distro
area would become rather sparse.
Yes quite. And lets not forget how the rules
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
My understanding is that incubating releases can have small IP loose
ends, but not that they can proceed before the main clearance of an
initial code donation.
It would be good to establish some clarity around this
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote:
Greets,
I read in the Tajo report and I see on the dev list that the Tajo
developers
are now diligently tackling IP clearance:
http://s.apache.org/00w
In my view, IP clearance is only the remain work
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Bernd Fondermann
bernd.fonderm...@gmail.com wrote:
That was also my understanding, that IP clearance is important, and
neccessary for successful incubation, but incubator releases are orthogonal
and therefore carry a disclaimer being not fully vetted Apache
My understanding is that incubating releases can have small IP loose
ends, but not that they can proceed before the main clearance of an
initial code donation.
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Bernd Fondermann
Greets,
I read in the Tajo report and I see on the dev list that the Tajo developers
are now diligently tackling IP clearance:
http://s.apache.org/00w
In my view, IP clearance is only the remain work for graduation.
However, the fact that this is only happening now represents a failure
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