Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 3:29 PM, sebb wrote: > ...This is a bit of a mess Yeah - I wish projects would just refer to http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html and http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html and avoid duplicating that information. -Bertrand

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-23 Thread sebb
On 19 November 2013 08:29, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM, sebb wrote: >> On 9 November 2013 12:17, Justin Mclean wrote: > ... >>> My guess is that "Lazy Majority" is used because Majority implies more than >>> 50% of possible voters need to vote. >> >> My guess is

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-19 Thread Stephen Connolly
well that type of "lazy majority" is really a "majority of binding votes cast with a quorum" which differs from "majority of binding votes cast", "majority of votes cast" and "quorum" (i.e. the needs 3x+1 to release... because remember you cannot veto releases ;-) though only a fool of a release ma

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi David, On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:52 AM, David Crossley wrote: > Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> ..."lazy majority" is mentioned at >> http://ant.apache.org/bylaws.html but I didn't know there was such a >> concept in our projects. > > Many projects use it. See this Google search: > site:apache.

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-19 Thread David Crossley
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM, sebb wrote: > > On 9 November 2013 12:17, Justin Mclean wrote: > ... > >> My guess is that "Lazy Majority" is used because Majority implies more > >> than 50% of possible voters need to vote. > > > > My guess is that it is a misprint

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM, sebb wrote: > On 9 November 2013 12:17, Justin Mclean wrote: ... >> My guess is that "Lazy Majority" is used because Majority implies more than >> 50% of possible voters need to vote. > > My guess is that it is a misprint for Lazy Consensus I'd say so - "laz

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-15 Thread sebb
On 9 November 2013 12:17, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > >> Is there such a concept as "Lazy Majority" ? > Yes many Apache projects define it (eg Ant, Kafka, Hadoop, Pig, Hive and > others ) as does Apache HTTP. [1] > "Lazy majority decides each issue in the release plan." The phrase is used, but

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-11 Thread Joseph Schaefer
Well I can assure you it’s NOT compulsory at Apache ;-). On Nov 10, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > >> Every American that has voted for a public office >> knows that winning the majority has nothing to do >> with the total population of potential voters. > Where I'm from voting

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-11 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Every American that has voted for a public office > knows that winning the majority has nothing to do > with the total population of potential voters. Where I'm from voting is compulsory so it has a different meaning. Thanks, Justin -

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-10 Thread Joseph Schaefer
Every American that has voted for a public office knows that winning the majority has nothing to do with the total population of potential voters. Let’s not try to rationalize geekdom’s love affair with special purpose terminology- my own pet peeve is what the java world did to the word distributi

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-10 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Is there such a concept as "Lazy Majority" ? Yes many Apache projects define it (eg Ant, Kafka, Hadoop, Pig, Hive and others ) as does Apache HTTP. [1] "Lazy majority decides each issue in the release plan." Different projects however use different terms, as far as I can see "Lazy Major

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-09 Thread sebb
On 9 November 2013 07:06, Alex Harui wrote: > Hi, > > Someday I will get back to improving the Voting and Glossary pages, but > meanwhile, the Apache Flex PMC is still trying to construct a set of > bylaws and we are currently discussing whether there is a difference > between "Majority Approval"

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-09 Thread Upayavira
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013, at 07:06 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > Hi, > > Someday I will get back to improving the Voting and Glossary pages, but > meanwhile, the Apache Flex PMC is still trying to construct a set of > bylaws and we are currently discussing whether there is a difference > between "Majority

Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-08 Thread Alex Harui
Hi, Someday I will get back to improving the Voting and Glossary pages, but meanwhile, the Apache Flex PMC is still trying to construct a set of bylaws and we are currently discussing whether there is a difference between "Majority Approval" which is in the Glossary and "Lazy Majority" which isn'