Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-07 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Mentors heartbeat Try out my scripts - they take on that precise philosophy and try to make sense of what is already there Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi - I've been too busy to do

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-05 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 12:05 AM, rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Surely we are not going to start counting signing off on a report as indicative of good/bad mentoring? Not. But what I'm going to start with is this: reflect on the Incubator Wiki is the statistics on poddlings who receive NO

RE: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-04 Thread rgardler
: Mattmann, Chris A (3980) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov Sent: ‎9/‎3/‎2014 10:25 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Mentors heartbeat These are the signed off per month mentors per podling over the last 3 years. So it measures how many times a mentor has

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
...@opendirective.com rgard...@opendirective.com Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:05 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Mentors heartbeat Surely we are not going to start counting signing off

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-04 Thread Tim Williams
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Chris Mattmann mattm...@apache.org wrote: Seriously, give me a break. This has been discussed ad naseum - It's a quick simple measure to see if one of the stated requirements for mentors (reading the monthly report, and *signing that you read it*) has been

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-04 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Sure Tim I can do that one sec I'll make it an option Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Tim Williams william...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Chris Mattmann mattm...@apache.org wrote: Seriously, give me a break. This has been discussed ad naseum - It's

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-04 Thread Ross Gardler
@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Mentors heartbeat Surely we are not going to start counting signing off on a report as indicative of good/bad mentoring? What's important is whether podlings are getting what they need from their mentors. Besides, someone who has actively mentored one new podling

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-03 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Subject: Re: Mentors heartbeat On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: I am not so sure if its worth while with the board report. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Having the board report in machine readable formats provides

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-03 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 10:11 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Mentors heartbeat Arguably, the number of mentored project doesn't reflect the activity per se. Unless I am missing something. Cos On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 04:46AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: Guys, +1

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-25 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Just want to point out that lack of activity may mean lack of issues that need dealing with not that a mentor gone awol. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, Just want to point out that lack of activity may mean lack of issues that need dealing with not that a mentor gone awol. Right. And that's why technical side of things (like YAMLizing report, etc.) is a

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-25 Thread jan i
On 25 August 2014 19:26, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, Just want to point out that lack of activity may mean lack of issues that need dealing with not that a mentor gone awol. Right. And

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-25 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I've been too busy to do more than lurk occasionally. Consequently I am not mentoring and not shepherding lately. I do want to add something to this debate. PMCs write their board reports to the board in whatever way they want. The Incubator is about teaching PPMCs how to become PMCs. We

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-25 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Try out my scripts - they take on that precise philosophy and try to make sense of what is already there Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi - I've been too busy to do more than lurk occasionally. Consequently I am not mentoring

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-24 Thread jan i
On 24 August 2014 02:07, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: This is pretty cool but I think it underscores the need to get off of free form files that need to be scraped. Its very interesting, when I started looking at incubator, my initial thought was with that many IPMC members,

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-24 Thread Benson Margulies
Everyone who has ever mentored anything is a member of this PMC, except for those who have actually chosen to depart. In addition, we have PMC members who specialize in things like NOTICE files, but don't choose to mentor individual projects. In general, there is a mentor shortage. If you have a

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-24 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Aug 24, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: I am a programmer and like formats like JSON, but it is true that the world does not only consist of programmers, so I suggest we make 2 webpages: - one page that create/modify the report and update svn with the JSON

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-24 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: I am not so sure if its worth while with the board report. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Having the board report in machine readable formats provides the same advantages as that afforded

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-24 Thread jan i
On 24 August 2014 19:54, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: I am not so sure if its worth while with the board report. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Having the board report in

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-24 Thread Benson Margulies
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 2:07 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On 24 August 2014 19:54, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: I am not so sure if its worth while with the board report. What's good for the

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-24 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Subject: Re: Mentors heartbeat On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: I am not so sure if its worth while with the board report. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Having the board report in machine readable formats provides the same advantages

Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! in my never ending quest to help boost the graduation rate I've come across a few cases where I had to reach out to project mentors. Typically the initial list would be around 3 individuals, but the reply would only come from a single one. I believe we owe it to the projects to monitor

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-23 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Sorry https://github.com/chrismattmann/apachestuff Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Check my apachestuff GitHub repo https://guthub.com/chrismattmann/apachestuff Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2014, at

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-23 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
This is pretty cool but I think it underscores the need to get off of free form files that need to be scraped. I think that maybe for future reports we can have a JSON file in svn that people can update. We could then have our report automatically generated from the JSON file for the board