Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2010-02-23 Thread Kevan Miller
On Jan 19, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Donald Woods wrote: Thanks. I'll get with Kevan to update the proposal before we finally submit it for a vote. Oops. Donald, we never synced up. My fault. Let's get this moving along. IMO, we should structure the project as a normal incubator project, use

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2010-02-23 Thread Donald Woods
No problem. I've updated the Required Resources and Sponsoring Entity sections and will start the vote on another thread. Thanks. -Donald On 2/23/10 10:00 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: On Jan 19, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Donald Woods wrote: Thanks. I'll get with Kevan to update the proposal

RE: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2010-01-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Kevan, Time to restart/finish this discussion. I agree. Seems that things have cooled off a bit. Personally, I'd have been happy to see this move forward either way 1) IP clearance with implementation work in Commons This works only if we're dealing with a CODEBASE and an existing ASF

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2010-01-14 Thread Kevan Miller
On Dec 30, 2009, at 4:55 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: This is not quite the scenario. We have a *dormant* component (validator) in Commons and a couple of ASF committers (not commons committers) have shown up proposing to re-write that component to implement the new Bean Valiadation

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-31 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think weeding out those who consume more than they contribute as an organizing principle would work.  It is certainly not the way we have been operating up to now at the ASF. Yes it is. consuming in this

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-31 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote: This is not quite the scenario. We have a *dormant* component (validator) in Commons and a couple of ASF committers (not commons committers) have shown up proposing to re-write that component to implement the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-31 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thu, December 31, 2009 1:54:18 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Phil Steitz

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-31 Thread Ralph Goers
On Dec 31, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: As I said, we do not have a hard and fast rule on length of time, but this nebulous notion is what makes the ASF work. If that were true the incubator would need to be completely reworked, because the process we use here is basically a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-31 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thu, December 31, 2009 9:27:26 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation On Dec 31, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: As I said, we

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-31 Thread Ralph Goers
On Dec 31, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: Getting back to the subject, my primary objection to what's being proposed is that commons should handle this as an ip clearance, not as a project incubation. If commons insists that the individuals in question have to submit patches to

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-30 Thread Phil Steitz
Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: ant elder antel...@apache.org To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 5:22:13 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-30 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 1:30:13 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: ant elder

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-30 Thread Phil Steitz
Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 1:30:13 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-30 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message From: Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 1:30:13 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-30 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 3:10:47 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Phil Steitz

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-30 Thread Phil Steitz
Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 3:10:47 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-13 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
+1 On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org wrote: Hello everyone, I would like to present an incubator proposal for a new Validation podling, which would be a JSR-303 Bean Validation follow-on to the existing Apache Commons Validation 1.x project, but based on a new

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-11 Thread Henri Yandell
It's related. Commons are sponsoring this incubation. Hen On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote: Hi, what about the effort from the Jakarta/Commons Validator community? Aren't they doing that as well ? (or was it only stated to do so)? -Matthias On

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-11 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:56 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: A quick search so there has been some discussion on commons-dev - [1] Does this really need to be incubated - the proposal says its intended to graduate to Apache Commons and replace the existing Validator 1.x component as

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-11 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:56 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: A quick search so there has been some discussion on commons-dev - [1] Does this really need to be incubated - the proposal says its intended

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-11 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message From: ant elder antel...@apache.org To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 5:22:13 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 6:29:26 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-11 Thread Donald Woods
] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: ant elder To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 5:22:13 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation On Fri

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
From: Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 12:08:50 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation Good points, which we discussed some on the d...@commns list before asking the Commons PMC to sponsor

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-11 Thread Leo Simons
On 12/11/09 1:14 AM, Donald Woods wrote: I would like to present an incubator proposal for a new Validation podling, which would be a JSR-303 Bean Validation follow-on to the existing Apache Commons Validation 1.x project, but based on a new incoming codebase with a software grant from Agimatec

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-10 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Donald, just to support you in the proposal and renew my interest on that project, I've already been added in the possible contributors lists - I already signed and sent the Apache ICLA. Have a nice day, best regards, Simone On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-10 Thread ant elder
A quick search so there has been some discussion on commons-dev - [1] Does this really need to be incubated - the proposal says its intended to graduate to Apache Commons and replace the existing Validator 1.x component as a new 2.0 codebase, from the discussion on commons-dev everyone seems fine